National Assembly · Afternoon Sitting

Chairperson of the Decentralised Funds Accounts Committee, Hon. Mulyungi

Hon. Speaker, I beg to give notice of the following Motion: THAT, this House adopts the 15th Report of the Decentralised Funds Accounts Committee on its consideration of the Audited Accounts for the National Government Constituencies Development Fund (NG-CDF) for constituencies in Meru, Tharaka Nithi and Embu counties for the Financial Years 2013/2014, 2014/2015, 2015/2016, 2016/2017, 2017/2018, …

Hon. Speaker, I beg to give notice of the following Motion: THAT, this House adopts the 4th Report of the Decentralised Funds Accounts

Constituencies Development Fund (NG-CDF) account for the Financial Years 2016/2017, 2017/2018, 2018/2019, 2019/2020, 2020/2021, and 2021/2022, laid on the Table of the House on Thursday, 21st March 2024. Thank you.

Hon. Chege Njuguna, Member for Kandara. That request is stayed. Hon. Emathe Namuar, Member for Turkana Central.

Hon. Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request for a Statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Communication, Information and Innovation regarding the operationalisation of the Napetet Information Communication and Technology (ICT) Hub in Turkana Central Constituency. In 2018, the World Bank and the Government of Kenya launched the …

Thank you, Hon. Namuar. Chair of the Departmental Committee on Communication, Information and Innovation, Hon. KJ, when will you bring a response?

Hon. Speaker, the Hon. Member has raised a very important issue. Cognisance of the fact that we are going for recess, the earliest we will bring a response is the first week after recess, so that he can communicate back to his constituents.

You will bring the response on 29th July 2026.

Hon. Speaker, I am well guided.

Next is Hon. Suzanne Kiamba, Member for Makueni.

Hon. Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request for a Statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Housing, Urban Planning and Public Works regarding the implementation of the Affordable Housing Programme. Since the enactment of the Affordable Housing Act, 2024, Kenyans dutifully contribute to the Housing Levy, the funding mechanism for…

Chair of the Departmental Committee on Housing, Urban Planning and Public Works, when will you bring the response?

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I will bring it in two weeks after the short recess.

The short recess is three weeks. Why do you want to bring the response two weeks after the recess? Bring it during the first week after recess.

I will do so. Hon. Speaker, you directed the Cabinet Secretary to be here on Thursday.

Bring the response during the first week after recess.

Thank you.

Hon. Moses Kirima. Yes, Hon. Omboko Milemba.

The Chair has raised some fundamental questions that the Cabinet Secretary will address in the House. Do you find it in your favour to direct that he deals with the matter when the Cabinet Secretary comes? Thank you.

Hon. Members, I had directed that we would have two issues at the Kamukunji on Thursday. The NG-CDF team would like to brief Members on developments within the management of NG-CDF and housing. Unfortunately, the two will not be on. We shall have the Kamukunji on the first Thursday, upon resumption from recess. Hon. Chairman, prepare to respond to Hon. Kiamba. Hon. Moses Kirima, Member for Centra…

Hon. Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request a Statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Lands regarding the long-standing boundary and land adjudication disputes affecting Kiamuri A and Kiamuri B in Kiagu Ward, Central Imenti Constituency. Kiamuri A and Kiamuri B are neighbouring land adjudication sections and localities within K…

Hon. Murugara, do you want to joyride?

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I want to joyride on that request for Statement by Hon. Kirima. Unfortunately, the documents and papers he is trying to quote have been overtaken by events. The fact remains that all agencies have ascertained that the areas he claims are in his Central Imenti Constituency are in Tharaka Constituency. I am not trying to pre-empt what Statement will be made, but it should be…

Yes, Hon. (Dr) Mutunga.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. We have a problem with the boundary between Meru and Tharaka Nithi counties. It not only affects Central Imenti but also stretches from South Imenti to Central Imenti, to North Imenti, to Tigania West, and to Tigania East. We are not privy to any information that this boundary dispute has been resolved. However, there is a court determination that clearly contradicts what…

Yes, Hon. Rindikiri Mugambi.

Hon. Speaker, Hon. Murugara is a known expansionist. I am not surprised by his statement. This dispute has been in existence for some time now. Buuri Constituency was carved from Central Imenti. I have a lot of interest in that area, which the other county has taken over. So, whatever Hon. Murugara is saying—that events have overtaken the documents—is not true. We have been engaging diplomaticall…

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Yes, Hon. Murugara. What is it?

Hon. Speaker, I take exception to the fact that Hon. Rindikiri is calling me an expansionist. I do not know how and under what circumstances I would actually have the power to encroach on Meru County's land. Where would I even get the wherewithal to do this? The fact remains that the Ministry of Interior and National Administration has settled the boundary between Meru and Tharaka Nithi counties.…

the areas Hon. Kirima is talking about, according to that particular Act of Parliament, are in Tharaka Constituency in Tharaka Nithi County. Hon. Kirima will have a tall task, even when we go before whoever we need to, because an Act of Parliament determines the boundaries between counties. Those areas he is talking about are in Tharaka. This will give him big trouble, especially with me. Thank y…

On a point of information, Hon. Speaker.

Order, Hon. Kirima. You are the one seeking a Statement. Who do you want to inform?

Hon. Speaker, I would like to inform Hon. Murugara that the Districts and Provinces Act, 1992, which created the districts, is the one to be pursued and followed. That is the Act I insist on being followed. It was used to determine the dispute between Marsabit and Wajir counties, and that is what I am pursuing, so that it is followed in this dispute as well. As Hon. Rindikiri has said, during the …

Order, Hon. Kirima. There is no Motion before this House to discuss Hon. Murugara. Take your seat. If you want to discuss Hon. Murugara and his expansionism, bring a Motion. Is the Chair of the Departmental Committee on Lands or any Member of the Committee in the House? Hon. Naomi, inform the Chair to bring a response within the first week after recess.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I will do so.

Hon. Agnes Pareiyo, Member for Narok North. She is not in. Statement stayed. Hon. Chege Njuguna.

[(Request for Statement by Hon. Agnes Mantaine deferred)]

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I request for a Statement regarding the death of Mr…

Hon. Chege Njuguna, I am calling you for the second time. The decent thing to do is to apologise to the House for coming late.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. My apologies to the House. I got a little bit late, Hon. Speaker. I was just stuck in traffic, but I will make sure to be on time next time. Pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request a Statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security regarding the death of Mr Kamau Maina in Kandara Const…

Hon. Tongoyo, that is to your Committee.

Hon. Speaker, I will respond to it.

I do not know whether that is a security issue or a construction issue.

I think it is more of a security issue.

Okay, go ahead.

Hon. Speaker, considering that we will be going on recess on 3rd July 2026, may you allow me to respond in the first week of resumption?

The first week of resumption is fine.

But if I get a response at any other time in between, I will communicate with the Member.

Okay.

Hon. Speaker, allow me also to give a report. I informed the House that we would have the Cabinet Secretary this morning to address a number of Members’ Statements. Unfortunately, the Cabinet Secretary had a Cabinet meeting, so he could not attend; the Principal Secretary attended in his place. However, given that the majority of the issues were beyond the Principal Secretary's scope of authority,…

Thank you. Hon. Talib. Give him the microphone. There you are.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I had also requested a statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security, as he had promised to give a response within two weeks regarding the enforcement of the curfew in Lamu despite a court order. Thank you.

Hon. Tongoyo, are you ready with his response to the statement on curfew in Lamu?

No, Hon. Speaker. His question was among the list that the Cabinet Secretary was to respond to.

So, you will do that upon resumption from recess?

Yes.

Okay.

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