National Assembly · Afternoon Sitting

Hon. Members, you will recall that prior to receipt of the said Senate Bill, this House passed the County Governments Additional Allocations Bill (National Assembly Bill No.2 of

Hon. Speaker, thank you for allowing me to welcome one of my best-performing schools, the Aga Khan School. This is one of the oldest schools in my constituency. The students are here on a study trip. I welcome them and I advise the students that this is the best place to learn how laws are made. Welcome to this House.

Member for Chepalungu.

Thank you very much, Hon. Speaker for granting me the opportunity to welcome St. Mary's Junior and Primary School from Chepalungu Constituency. This school is located within my constituency and is known for its excellent performance. It is the school that my children attend. I wish to recognise the pupils as they visit Parliament to observe our proceedings. I encourage them to work hard, so that i…

Thank you. To complete the cycle, Hon. Karemba.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker for this opportunity. I wish to welcome the students from St. Mary's Mixed Day Kigaa Secondary School from my constituency, alongside the other visiting students. This school has an enormous potential and is among the best-performing schools in my area. I wish the students all the best as they pursue knowledge and aspire to become great individuals in this republic.

I assure them of my continued support in their education so that they may grow to become better citizens of this country.

Thank you. On behalf of the Speaker and the House, we welcome all the schools, the students, and their teachers to the House of Parliament. Next Order.

Yes, we have two Petitions. The first one is from the Member for Taveta, Hon. John Bwire. Is he in the House? He seems not. His Petition is, therefore, deferred to Thursday.

Hon. Speaker, I rise to present a Public Petition on unfair labour practices by Sukari Industries Limited in Homa Bay County. I, the undersigned, on behalf of the workers of Sukari Industries Limited in Homa Bay County, draw the attention of the House to the following: THAT, on 8th February 2024, workers at Sukari Industries Limited in Ndhiwa Constituency staged a protest against discrimination,…

THAT, all efforts to address these concerns through dialogue and engagement have been unsuccessful; and, THAT, the issues raised in this Petition are not pending before any tribunal, court of law, or any constitutional or legal body. Therefore, your humble petitioners pray that the National Assembly, through the Public Petitions Committee;

You should have included that in the Petition.

Hon. Speaker, I hope the Public Petitions Committee will take this matter seriously.

Hon. Sunkuli.

If I may join in, Hon. Speaker, I would like to urge the Public Petitions Committee to thoroughly,investigate Sukari Industries. Those of us with sugar industries in our constituencies are concerned, and would like to see broader investigations carried out in the interest of our local industries. However, Sukari Industries appear to be encroaching even into our sugar zone in Trans Mara. As you kn…

Mhe. Zamzam, would you like to joyride on this?

kuwa wafanyikazi nchini wanaangaliwa vizuri, hasa, wale wanaofanya kazi za mkono maana wananyanyaswa sana. Asante sana, Mhe. Spika.

The Petition is committed to the Committee on Public Petitions. Report back within 60 days. Is the Chairman here?

Yes, Hon. Speaker.

Hon. Kagesi, report back within 60 days. Next Order.

Leader of the Majority Party.

Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table:

Chairperson, Committee on National Government Constituencies Development Fund.

Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Paper on the Table:

The Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning.

Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Paper on the Table: Report of the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning on its consideration of the Excise Duty (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bill No.7 of 2025) .

Chairperson, Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs.

Hon Speaker, I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table: Reports of the Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs on its consideration of:

Thank you. Next Order.

THAT, this House adopts the Report of the Public Petitions Committee on its consideration of a Public Petition No.01 of 2023 regarding poor implementation of the EduAfya Medical Scheme in public schools, laid on the Table of the House on Thursday, 7th December 2023.

What have you moved, Hon. Kagesi? I thought you were giving notices of Motions.

Sorry, Hon. Speaker. They are notices of Motions.

Okay. Chairperson, Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs.

Hon. Speaker, I beg to give notice of the following Motion: THAT, taking into consideration the findings of the Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs in its Report on the vetting of a nominee for appointment as Principal Secretary laid on the Table of the House today, Tuesday, 8th April 2025, and pursuant to the provisions of Article 155 (3) (b) of the Constitution, approves the app…

Thank you, Hon. Murugara. Chairperson, Public Investments Committee on Social Services, Administration and Agriculture, Hon. Wangwe.

Hon. Speaker, I beg to give notice of the following Motion: THAT, this House adopts the fourth Report of the Public Investments Committee on Social Services, Administration and Agriculture on its consideration of the Report of the Auditor-General on the financial statements of

the following State corporations, laid on the Table of the House on Thursday, 17th October 2024:

Hon. Speaker, I beg to give notice of the following Motion: THAT, this House adopts the Report of the Public Investments Committee on Social Services, Administration and Agriculture on its consideration of the performance audit report of the provision of services to persons with disabilities by the National Council for Persons with Disabilities, laid on the Table of the House on Tuesday, 30th Jul…

Hon. Members, before we go to the Statements,, I direct the re- organisation of the Order Paper so that we go to Order 8, and then we put the Question. I will allow the County Woman Representative for Kajiado to make a Statement about a departed colleague, and then we will go back to Statements.

Clerk-at-the-Table.

Members on their feet, take your seats. Member for Garissa, take your seat. We will start with Hon. Sankaire.

[(Question put and agreed to)]

Hon. Speaker, pursuant to Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to seek a Statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security regarding the disappearance and subsequent death of Ms Lydia Tokeshi Bukhala. On 7th January 2025, Ms Lydia Tokeshi Bukhala of ID No.34613679 was reported missing in Nairobi only for her body to be found dumped in Gataka Forest…

Station under OB No.34/07/1/2025. Officers from Kilimani Police Station and Kabete Police Station made an initial response. Ms Bukhala’s family is concerned about timeliness and the effectiveness of police actions in addressing this distressing case. Additionally, they are concerned by reports from authorities that Mr Joseph Philip Orwa, identified as a person of interest in connection with the d…

Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Affairs. Hon. Kahangara, are you holding brief for your Chairman?

Yes, Hon. Speaker.

Bring a response in two weeks.

Member for Funyula, Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Pursuant to Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request for a Statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Energy regarding the operations of Kudura Power East Africa in western Kenya. It is a Kenyan enterprise specialising in development and operation of renewable energy mini-grid in western Kenya. Its primary focus is providing live and affordable el…

Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Energy. Where is Hon. Gikaria or any Member of the Committee? Majority Leader, I direct the Chairman to bring a response in two weeks.

Most obliged.

Hon. Donya, what is it?

I do not think he can give an answer in two weeks.

Why?

I made a Request for Statement before we went for recess, and he said he was going to give a response in two weeks, which ends today yet he is not even in the House. I doubt he will give that feedback in two weeks.

[(Applause)]

I direct him to do so in two weeks. Is the Vice-Chair of the Committee here?

Yes.

Hon. Aramat, you can hear those aspersions against your Committee on your inability to bring a response to a Request for a Statement in accordance with your promise to the House. Bring a response to the request by Hon. Donya on Thursday and a response to this request in two weeks.

No problem, Hon. Speaker.

Next is Hon. Kakuta Maimai, Member for Kajiado East.

Hon. Speaker, pursuant to the provision of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request for a Statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Lands regarding the alleged fraudulent and irregular transfer of public land No.67, Isinya MRTC Demonstration Farm. Members of the Emboliei Group Ranch community have raised concerns over the illegal and fraudulent alienation of this public …

It is against this background that I request for a Statement from the Chairperson of the

Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Lands, Hon. Nyamoko. Any member of that Committee? Majority Leader, inform them to bring a response in two weeks.

It is sad if this land in Isinya can be transferred fraudulently, Hon. Speaker. I will ask the Chair or Vice-Chair to bring the response in exactly two weeks.

Thank you.

There is a response to a Statement requested by Hon. Joseph Munyoro, Member for Kigumo. Hon. Kahangara, you said you are holding brief for your Chairman?

Yes, Hon. Speaker.

Go ahead and respond.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I wish to respond to a request for a Statement regarding disappearance of persons. The Member for Kigumo, Hon. Joseph Munyoro, particularly sought to be informed of:

Is the Member for Kigumo in the House? Yes, Hon. Munyoro.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Thank you for the response. One of the strangest things about these cases is that they have all happened in one sub-location. The responses by the Committee are only talking about pending investigations. In the case of David Gitau, the Committee said that the police have arrested someone who had his phone through a copy of the IMEI number. It would help us to know what he …

Lastly, on the motor vehicles, we have been promised many times. I would like to know the timelines because buying motor vehicles is about budgeting and making sure it is done. So, could the Committee tell us when we will get the motor vehicles? I am happy they have said they will give us five vehicles for patrols. I thank you, Hon. Speaker.

Hon. Kahangara, do you have any response to those clarifications?

Hon. Speaker, as the Member has said, all these incidences come from the same sub-location. On issues of disappearance, it is always advisable to give the police time. When people disappear, sometimes you do not even know whether they have disappeared willingly or anything could have happened to them. I believe we should give the police more time to carry out investigations. As we have seen in the…

Thank you. Next Order.

On a point of order, Hon. Speaker.

Hold on. Yes, Hon. Bowen.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Sometime last year, around November, I drafted a Question concerning the Parliamentary Service Commission regarding its oversight role. Hon. Speaker, I ask for your indulgence and advice on this. Give us direction because it is a constitutional Question. Article 95 (5) (b) of the Constitution provides that the National Assembly shall exercise the function of oversight.

Hon. Bowen, you have said you already requested for a Statement?

I am saying that I drafted a Statement at the Table Office and signed it. However, up to now, I have not seen it. I am seeking your direction because it is also a constitutional question.

Drop a copy of your Statement at the Office of the Clerk. It will be dealt with and processed accordingly.

That is okay, Hon. Speaker. It was to do with the oversight of Parliamentary Service Commission because we have concerns as Members. When we talked with our colleague, the Chairman of the Members Welfare Committee…

Take your seat, Hon. Bowen. If you were here when we were starting this Session, I directed the House that Questions and Requests for Statements from the last session, lapsed with the session. I directed and advised that those Members whose Questions and Requests for Statements had collapsed that way, had an opportunity to go and resurrect them. Do you know the resurrection centre?

[(Laughter)]

You can go and resurrect the request. Then it will be processed in the normal manner. Is that okay?

Yes, Hon. Speaker.

Thank you, Hon. Bowen. Next Order.

Hon. Musa Sirma.

Hon. Speaker, I beg to move the following Motion: THAT, pursuant to the provisions of section 43 (4) of the National Government Constituency Development Fund Act, 2015 and Paragraphs 5 (2) and (10) of the National Government Constituencies Development Fund Regulations, 2016, this House approves the list of nominees for appointment to the following thirty seven (37) Constituency Committees of the …

No.

No.

Hon. Sirma, you end by saying “I beg to move” and request whichever Member you want to second.

Hon. Speaker, I beg to move that these names be approved and ask Hon. Wamboka to second.

Thank you. Hon Wanami Wamboka.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I rise to second the move by Hon. Musa Sirma, that, indeed, the National Government Constituencies Development Fund (NG-CDF) needs to...

Hon. Wanami Wamboka, for the record, you are seconding a Motion, not a move.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. You have been here longer. I rise to second the Motion by Hon. Sirma. We need to operationalise our NG-CDF offices by ensuring that legally certified people are in these offices. Once these names are approved, I call upon the Attorney-General to gazette them so that they can start working. On NG-CDF, the National Treasury has, for some time now, been playing with this Hou…

timelines, they come and plead with you to talk to us, which we accept. However, they do not live up to their part of the bargain. As we speak, most students in our universities are starting exams this week yet we do not have money for bursaries. It is a crisis. The National Treasury is not responding. They have given us promissory notes that have expired, and they now do not have a face. I call …

Hon. Members, before I propose the Question, since last week’s mention of a similar issue and the concern that the distinguished Member for Bumula is raising, I directed the Clerk to get in touch with the Principal Secretary for the National Treasury. I also directed the Leader of the Majority Party to get in touch with the National Treasury. As I propose and subsequently put the Question, I direc…

Can we just have the Cabinet Secretary here instead of a response for the sake of this House, because they have also put your name in disrepute? If we did not know you as Members, we would be having problems with you. However, we know you, and they have been using you as a shield. Can we have Hon. John Mbadi here tomorrow, with due respect?

I direct the Leader of the Majority Party to look for Hon. John Mbadi and deliver him to the House at 2.30 p.m. tomorrow.

[(Applause)]

Next Order.

The Temporary Chairman (Hon. David Ochieng’): Hon. Members, I now call upon the Mover of this Bill, the Chairperson of the Budget and Appropriations Committee, to move for reporting.

Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move that the Committee do report to the House its consideration of the Division of Revenue Bill (National Assembly Bill No.10 of 2025) and its approval thereof without amendments.

[(Question proposed)]

[(Question put and agreed to)]

[(The House resumed)]

I now call upon the Chairperson to report to the House.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to report that the Committee of the whole House has considered the Division of Revenue Bill (National Assembly Bill No.10 of 2025) and approved the same without amendments.

Thank you. Mover, Hon. Atandi.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said Report. I also request Hon. (Dr) Pukose to second the Motion for agreement with the Report of the Committee of the whole House.

Hon. Pukose.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I second.

[(Question proposed)]

Hon. Members, for obvious reasons, we will defer the putting of the Question to the next time the House sits. Next Order.

[(Putting of the Question deferred)]

Hon. Members, we will defer this

On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

Hon. Oundo, what is out of order?

Hon. Temporary Speaker, this is the National Assembly that makes laws for Kenyans and prosperity of this country. Looking around the chamber, I hardly see more than five Members. I draw your attention to the fact that there is no quorum in the House to transact business. This is the National Assembly that transacts and makes laws in the interest and benefit of Kenyans.

Hon. Members, I have listened to the Member for Funyula. Therefore, I order the Quorum Bell to be rung for 10 minutes.

[(The Quorum Bell was rung)]

I order the Bell to be stopped.