National Assembly · Afternoon Sitting

Hon. Speaker, I beg to give notice of the following Motion: THAT this House adopts the Fifth Report of the Decentralized Funds Accounts Committee on its consideration of the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements for the National Government Constituencies Development Fund for six constituencies in Busia County, being Teso South, Matayos, Nambale, Funyula, Teso North and Butula …

Thank you, Hon. Mulyungi. Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security, Hon. Raso, are you still in the same predicament? Let us proceed to the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Finance, Hon. Umul Kheir. Hold on. Hon. Mulyungi, I am told that you have a third notice of Motion. You are usually very organised. What is happening today? As Hon. Mulyungi…

Hon. Speaker, I beg to give notice of the following Motion: THAT, taking into consideration the findings of the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning in its Report on the Vetting of Nominees for Appointment as Principal Secretaries, State Department for Public Investments and Asset Management and the State Department for Economic Planning, laid on the Table of the House on Thurs…

and 8 of the Public Appointments (Parliamentary Approval) Act, CAP 7F, approves the appointment of the following persons as Principal Secretaries –

Thank you, Hon. Umul Kheir. The Chairperson of the Departmental

Hon. Speaker, I beg to give notice of the following Motion: THAT, taking into consideration the findings of the Departmental

Thank you. Let us go back to Order No.5 to allow Hon. Dido Raso to lay his Paper.

Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following paper on the Table: Report of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security on the Vetting of Hon. Ahmed Abdisalan Ibrahim for Appointment as Principal Secretary, State Department for National Government Coordination. Thank you, Hon. Speaker.

Let us return to Order No.6 to allow Hon. Dido Raso and Hon. Mulyungi to give notices of Motions.

Hon. Speaker, I beg to give notice of the following Motion:

THAT, taking into consideration the findings of the Departmental

Thank you. We are still at Order No.6. Hon. Mulyungi, are you better organised now? Just read the Notice of Motion as drafted.

Hon. Speaker, I beg to give notice of the following Motion: THAT, this House adopts the Report of the Decentralised Funds Accounts

Thank you, Hon. Mulyungi. Hon. Marianne Kitany, are you better organised now? If you only shake your head, it will not go on the Hansard.

[(Hon. Hon. Marianne Kitany shook her head)]

Not yet, Hon. Speaker.

Thank you. Before we proceed to the next Order, Hon. Members, allow me to acknowledge, in the Public Gallery, students from the following institutions –

[(Applause)]

Hon. Members, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 41 (4) of the National Assembly Standing Orders, I wish to convey to the House that I have received a Message from the Senate regarding its decision to extend the tenure of the Selection Panel for the Recruitment of Nominees for Appointment as Chairperson and Members of the Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission (IEBC) . The Mess…

Hon. Speaker, I beg to give notice of the following Motion: THAT, aware that the world is rapidly embracing Artificial Intelligence (AI) , which is the use of a digital computer or computer-controlled robots to perform tasks commonly associated with intelligent beings; acknowledging that the 2022 Government Artificial Intelligence Readiness Index report ranked Kenya fifth in Africa and 90th globa…

Thank you, Hon. Marianne. Next Order.

Hon. Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request for a Statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security regarding the disruption of the performance of ‘Echoes of War’ – a play by Butere Girls High School – at the National Drama Festival in Nakuru County by the National Police Service. In February 2025, Bu…

Thank you. Yes, Omboko Milemba.

Hon. Speaker, thank you very much for this chance. I just want to support the Statement and indicate that drama is just about satire that has been there throughout. I remember ‘Volta’ was one of the most remembered satirical philosophers during the French Revolution but he was allowed to perform before Louis XVI.

He is not called ‘Volta’. He is called Voltaire.

Thank you. You are an authority Speaker. He was called Voltaire. He was allowed to perform before Louis XVI. I think what we should do in that space is to allow such plays to be performed, they get over with, and we move on. I plead with you that we also involve the Departmental Committee on Education and Research because I know they will quickly rush to punish teachers who are not responsible for…

Yes, mama Zamzam.

Asante sana Mheshimiwa Spika kwa kunipa fursa hii nami nizungumzie tamthilia ya watoto wa Butere. Akili za hawa watoto zinanasa mambo mengi sana. Katika shule nilikuwa nafanya tamthilia. Vitabu vingi vimeandikwa. Mifano ni “Mashetani” na “Kusadikika”. Niliangalia ule mchezo nikaona wanasiasa wameingia ndani ya tamthilia ya hawa watoto. Wanasiasa wameingia wakawa wanatoa uwazi wa maneno. Sisi tuna…

Donya.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I participated in drama while I was in primary school, high school and college before I joined university. In fact, I was the best character. I am still the best character even in Bunge. I have been doing this satire thing. I will just say it because it is the debate we have on the Floor of the House. There was a time when somebody wrote on social media that a Kisii Woman…

[(Laughter)]

teacher and then wants us to clap for him or her. They will write bad things tomorrow. I am sorry I was to say something else. We will then wonder or ask what we did. That was wrong. The writer of that play is not a drama teacher. He is a politician who has vengeance and wants to prove a point. Before he proves his point, he must be told that what he has done is very wrong.

Hon. Keynan.

Hon. Speaker, it is high time we called a spade a spade. The Butere girls or children who were participating in the drama festival are victims of politics. We all understand the structure of our education system. There must be a drama master. There is a drama club, a drama teacher at the school, and the standards officer at the sub-county. There must have been failure by all these persons. The fi…

Hon. Osoro.

Thank you very much, Hon. Speaker. I associate myself with the sentiments that have been made by my colleagues. I have had an opportunity to discuss with one of the top education stakeholders as far as the drama festival is concerned. He informed me that the theme of this year's drama festival for secondary schools was ‘Leveraging Technology to Nurture Talent while Inculcating National Values for …

plays for national schools like Butere Girls High School. As a parent who wants your child to go to school and get proper education, and get out to be creative, you clap and say, “The politician created a script.” If you tell me to write a script, I will write one that befits my political line of thought. If you tell Malala or any other person to write a script, they will base the script within th…

Hon. Dido Raso, the Vice-Chair of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Affairs, when can you bring a response to the request?

Thank you very much, Hon. Speaker. We will bring a response in two weeks’ time.

Two weeks is too long. Liaise with the Chair of the Departmental Committee on Education and bring a report on Thursday next week.

I am well guided, Hon. Speaker. I want to say something, following the comments by my colleagues. Hon. Speaker, Kenya is bigger than all of us. When we have a platform, we have to use it responsibly. Many of us in this august House have children in primary and secondary schools, and universities. We want their character to be developed. We want them to learn good manners. I have watched that clip…

That is enough. Bring a response on Thursday. The next request is by Hon. Mohammed Daudi, the Member for Wajir East.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Pursuant to Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request for a Statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Affairs regarding discriminatory security clearance protocols imposed on passengers flying to and from the northern region. Article 27 of the Constitution of Kenya guarantees the right to equality and freedom from disc…

[(Revised in 2012)]

Chairman of Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security, Hon. Ali Raso, can you bring a response in two weeks’ time?

Hon. Speaker, listening to that Statement, there is also the element of transport.

Element of what?

Transport.

Yes.

It is about civil aviation.

Actually, it is not a security matter. Is the Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Transport and Infrastructure here? Hon. Rahim Dawood.

The Chairman is here, Hon. Speaker.

I can see you. Hon. Rahim Dawood, did you perceive the statement to be a security or an aviation matter? Give him the microphone.

Hon. Speaker, the clearances are obtained from the Ministry of Interior and National Administration, not from the Civil Aviation Authority. While it is about aerodromes and air transport, these clearances are imposed and obtained from the Ministry of Interior and National Administration. Thank you. Hon. Speaker: Okay. Hon. Ali Raso, bring us a response in two weeks’ time. Next is Hon. Adan Keynan…

Hon. Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request for a Statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Blue Economy, Water and Irrigation regarding the status of the Wajir Water and Sewerage system project. Access to clean and sustainable water is not only a right under Article 43 of the Constitution but is also a key driver and cornerstone…

Chairperson of Departmental Committee on Blue Economy, Water and Irrigation, Hon Bowen, when will you bring the statement?

I will bring the answer in the next two weeks, Hon. Speaker.

Two weeks is okay. Thank you. Let us have Hon. Joseph Gitari, the Member for Kirinyaga Central.

Hon. Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I wish to request for a Statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Education regarding promotion of Curriculum Support Officers (CSO) to the position of Principal Teacher Management Officers (PTMO) . Curriculum Support Officers play a vital role in implementation of the curriculum in the country. The CSOs…

Thank you. Is the Chairperson and the Vice-Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Education in the House? Leader of the Majority Party, where is your Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Education?

The Chairperson and Vice-Chairperson are not in the House, but I will advise them.

Advise them to bring a response in two weeks’ time.

Yes, Hon. Speaker.

Hon. Machua Waithaka, Member for Kiambu.

Hon. Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request for a Statement from the Chairperson of the

Departmental Committee on Environment, Forestry and Mining regarding flooding and environmental degradation affecting Kasarini Primary School, as a result of wastewater discharge from the Five Star Paradise Housing Development in Runda. In 2014, the National Environment Management Authority (NEMA) approved the construction of Five Star Paradise Estate in Runda. The developers constructed this hou…

Thank you, Hon. Machua. Leader of the Majority Party, communicate to the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Education to bring a response in two weeks’ time.

Thank you.

Hon. Lillian Siyoi, Woman Representative for Trans Nzoia County.

Hon. Speaker, pursuant to Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request for a Statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Health regarding the maternal and child mortality rate in the country. The 2022 Kenya Demographic and Health Survey published by Kenya National Bureau of Statistics (KNBS) revealed that mortality rates for mothers and children hit the lowest level in the la…

deaths per 100,000 live births respectively by 2030. Regrettably, Kenya’s mortality rates stand at double of these targets. According to the Ministry of Health, the mortality rate in the country remains a major public health concern, with 15 out of 47 counties accounting for 98.7 per cent of all deaths. These tragic figures underscore the urgent need for quality healthcare, which hinges on the de…

Thank you, Hon. Lillian. Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Health, Hon. (Dr) Nyikal, when can you bring a response?

It is possible in two weeks, Hon. Speaker.

Two weeks?

Yes.

Thank you. Leader of the Majority Party, Hon. Machua Waithaka has told me that he had directed his request for Statement to the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Environment, Forestry and Mining. However, the Order Paper indicates it is directed to the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Education. Check with the Clerk’s Office and liaise with both Chairpersons and see who will…

[(Hon. Speaker consulted with the Clerk-at-the-Table)]

[(Several Hon. Members spoke off the record)]

Hon. Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request for a Statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs regarding the status of prosecution of

Kenya Defence Forces (KDF) officer, Mr Hassan Muse Mire, accused of murdering Mr Abdullahi Kassim Yussuf. On 31st July 2019, Mr Hassan Muse Mire of Identification Card No.32394753, a KDF officer, allegedly shot and killed Mr Abdullahi Kassim Yussuf of Identification Card No.28872525 in Garissa County under unclear circumstances. On 23rd March 2022, the court recommended his prosecution for the mu…

Yes, Adow. No, that is not Adow. That is the Member for West Mugirango. You are raising both your hands that is why I could not see your face.

Yes. Thank you, Hon. Speaker, for permitting me to ride on that. I am a Member of the Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs and, of course, I will deal with this matter, but I must declare my interest that I was the family lawyer during the inquests when this poor Kenyan was executed allegedly by military officers about four years ago. Indeed, justice delayed is justice denied. On be…

Chairperson, Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs.

Thank you, very much, Mr Speaker.

How much time do you require?

Two weeks should be sufficient for us to answer this sufficiently and in a manner that is satisfactory to the Hon. Lady Member. Thank you very much.

Thank you, Hon. George. Hon. Gathoni Wamuchomba, Member for Githunguri.

Hon. Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I wish to request for a Statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Lands regarding status and ownership of a parcel of public land in Githunguri Constituency, Kiambu County.

Hon. Speaker, the Government has owned a 55-acre parcel of public land registered as

Thank you, Hon. Gathoni. Where is the Chairperson, Departmental

Myself, Hon. Speaker. In two weeks, we will be able to respond.

Okay. Now, let us have responses to Statements.

Hon. Speaker, two weeks.

You are not even listening.

[(Laughter)]

Sorry, Hon. Speaker. I was a bit...

Hon. GK, two weeks of what?

[(Laughter)]

Deferment, Hon. Speaker.

I said I have deferred the response to Question No.4 by Hon. Doris Donya to Tuesday next week.

I got it right, Hon. Speaker.

That is not two weeks. Okay. Chairperson, Departmental Committee on Energy, Hon. Gikaria, to respond to a request by Hon. Umul Kheir Kassim.

Do I proceed, Hon. Speaker? I do not know whether the Member is around.

She is around.

Okay. Hon. Speaker, following the letter dated 11th March 2025, the National Assembly Departmental Committee on Energy requested the Cabinet Secretary, Ministry of Energy and Petroleum, to make submissions on a request for a Statement by Hon. Umul Kheir Kassim, the Member of Parliament for Mandera County, regarding power outages in that County. The following are the submissions as requested. Ques…

Hon. Umul Kheir, are you satisfied?

No, I am not satisfied, Hon. Speaker.

Go ahead and express your dissatisfaction.

First, before I go to the issue of the generators, there is a part in the response that mentions the end of March, but we are now in April. Can you clarify that? You also realised it was a mistake and you skipped that part. These responses seem to be very sloppy. I am generally not satisfied with the responses. I am confused. I do not know where to start from in terms of the Statement. Do I start …

Hon. Gikaria.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. This response came much earlier. It did not come yesterday. The request for a Statement was made on 11th March 2025. The Committee was directed to give a response in two weeks. The dates that are given here remain as they are. When the Ministry states that the project was completed by 26th March 2025, I want to believe that is the case. If the situation on the ground is di…

Hon. Members, hold your horses. Before we go to the next response, allow me to go to Order No.8, so that we put the Question to the Motion while we still have abundant quorum in the House. Clerk-at-the-Table, call out Order No.8. Hon. Members on their feet, take your seats. Hon. Umul Kheir, take your seat. The Member talking to… I cannot tell from her back.

[(Several Hon. Members stood in the gangways)]

[(Hon. Umul Kheir Kassim consulted loudly)]

Let us go back to Order No.7. Hon. Umul Kheir. Hon. Umul Kheir, it is out of order to be on call in the Chamber when business is going on.

[(Hon. Umul Kheir Kassim was on a phone call)]

I am sorry, Hon. Speaker. I said there is a contradiction in the Statement because it is dated 9th April. The Chairperson is saying that the Statement came two weeks after I asked for a response.

Are you disputing the dates or the facts of the Statement?

The Statement refers to March as the current month, and yet we are in April. It also states that the installation and commissioning of the substitute generator was completed on Sunday, 23rd March 2025.

Are you saying that is incorrect?

Nothing has happened.

Hon. Gikaria.

Order, Hon. Umul Kheir. You have no right to solicit for support on anything you are doing on the Floor.

Hon. Speaker, for clarity, in response to the first question, there is a table which talks about the repairs and provision of an extra generator, which will be in place by the end of April 2025. With regard to part (ii) of the Question, she had asked about the immediate measures that will be put in place to replace the malfunctioning generators. The Ministry says that by 26th March 2025, installa…

Hon. Major Bashir.

Hon. Speaker, I agree with Hon. Umul Kheir that the answers given are quite unsatisfactory. As we speak, there is no power in Mandera Town, and it started way before the month of Ramadan. Before we went for recess, I mentioned here that people do not have power, therefore, they cannot even charge their phones. As we speak, Kenya Power Company has not responded to the cries and the plight of the pe…

Hon. Speaker, the issue of power in Mandera has been a problem since Independence. The county or the town used to be served by IPPs. They had served them for the last 30 years. Those IPPs were withdrawn without any reason and some Chinese generators were taken there. I am sorry to say that. I am not saying they are substandard, but we know what I mean. Hon. Speaker, it is shameful that more than …

come to the rescue of those two counties. The monopoly of Kenya power has destroyed those two counties. Every year, and I have been in this Parliament for the last three terms, people have been complaining about power in those two counties. As a House, we have to do something about it. We need to form an ad hoc Committee to look into that matter. Last month, I saw a Member of Parliament from Mand…

[(Laughter)]

You have made your point.

Hon. Speaker, I am doing all this because my ancestors came from that county though I come from Migori. So, I am trying to fight for them.

[(Laughter)]

Member for Mandera East Constituency.

Thank you very much Hon. Speaker for giving me this opportunity. I thank my colleagues and my Leader of the Minority Party for, at least, discussing this matter and making it a very important business of the House. We have had this problem for quite some years. Unfortunately, it became worse when some generators that were in Mandera were picked and taken to other parts of this country. I personal…

The other thing is that the Kenya Electricity Transmission Company (KETRACO) announced that it is going to get power from Dollo Town in Ethiopia. When the President visited Mandera, he assured us …

Hon. Weytan, you have made your point that the contestations from your colleagues are not entirely factual. As the area Member of Parliament, you have different facts. What I will direct is as follows: Hon. Gikaria, get all the facts together and sit with your colleagues from Mandera and explain to them what the Ministry is doing, and where there are gaps how you are narrowing them so that the peo…

Thank you, Leader of the Majority Party. Did you notice your mention of Dr Pukose's Question, put a broad smile on the face of the Member for Homa Bay?

[(Laughter)]

Very broad, Hon. Speaker. I know it is the Sure Condoms. At one point, Homa Bay was one of the counties that had very low usage of condoms, but following a lot of civic education, which the Member for Homa Bay was a keen participant, the use of condoms in Homa Bay County has become prevalent. This has reduced the infectious Sexually Transmitted Diseases (STDs) , including HIV and AIDS, in Homa Bay…

Was it education in theory or practice?

[(Laughter)]

At one point, you had nicknamed him “Akuku Danger”.

[(Laughter)]

Next Order. Yes, Hon. Junet.

[(Hon. Junet rose on his seat)]

Hon. Speaker, I would like to seek your indulgence, but before that, let me react to the issue of Homa Bay. You know it is unreligious to use condoms. I do not know if the Leader of the Majority Party is aware of that. Religion does not allow condoms. The Catholic Church and Islam advocate for abstinence. You are not supposed to use condoms. Anyway, that is on a light note. Condoms should be banne…

For the benefit and posterity of this House going forward, I request you to give a communication to the House which goes on record, outlining the issues that have been decided in the Supreme Court Ruling so that we know where our beacons are. This is going to be one of the most important pronouncements and communications that the Speaker will have made this year. That way, it would be clear that t…

Hon. Otiende.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I wish to support the request by the Leader of the Minority Party. Even as we communicate, I am sure you will indicate that, this House's Caucus on legislation, litigation, and related matters was seized of this matter upon your convention, and that the matter was referred to the Caucus for consideration. That notwithstanding, it is still possible for you to issue a commun…

Hon. Oundo, do you want to speak to the same issue?

Yes, Hon. Speaker. The Constitution clearly demarcates the roles of the two Chambers of Parliament. It was always hoped and believed that the so-called senior Members who sit in the Senate would be the first people to protect the Constitution. The Fourth Schedule to the Constitution sets out the mandate of each level of government. I support the sentiments by my leader. As you issue the communica…

beseech you to lay the law clearly so that we avoid this confusion, duplication and wanton waste of public time to answer the same question repeatedly from this end to that end. Thank you, Hon. Speaker.

Thank you. Hon. George Murugara.

Thank you very much, Hon. Speaker. Indeed, that request is timely, the reason being that what the Senate does and continues to do is actually in total breach of the Constitution. Just the other day, they summoned the Judiciary to go and answer questions. I do not know on what. Really? Can the Senate summon the Judiciary to answer questions on matters that do not touch on county governments? How do…

Hon. Gichimu.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. The demarcation between the mandate of the National Assembly and the Senate is in Articles 95 and 96 of the Constitution, respectively. As you make the communication, if you are persuaded to, my only worry is whether it would be binding to the other House of Parliament. Be that as it may, the communication would also be good for public consumption so that it can be known w…

Thank you. Hon. Junet, I will make the communication within the next two weeks. Next Order.

There was no one on the Floor.

Hon. Speaker, I rise under Standing Order 95 to request that the Mover be now called to reply. This Bill was deliberated on yesterday until late in the evening. We have other pending Business. I request Members to allow the Mover to be called upon to reply, so that we can transact business on approval of nominees for appointment as Principal Secretaries. Thank you, Hon. Speaker.

Hon. Members, is that the mood of the House?

Yes.

(Question, that the Mover be now called upon to reply, put and agreed to)

Leader of the Majority Party, who moved the Motion? It is under your name?

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I take this opportunity to, first, thank all Members who have contributed to this Bill. The Whip of the Majority Party moved it on my behalf. It seeks to create equity and fairness in the banking and insurance sector and all other financial service sectors. The same should apply to Sacco societies and other money-handling agencies in the country. I, keenly, listened to a …

Thank you. Members on their feet, take your seats. Hon. Pauline, take the nearest seat.

[(Hon. Pauline Lenguris and several Members remained upstanding)]

[(Question put and agreed to)]

[(The Bill was read a Second Time and committed to Committee of the whole House)]

Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Health, Dr Nyikal.

ODM): Hon. Speaker, I beg to move the following Special Motion: THAT, taking into consideration the findings of the Departmental

The Chairperson Departmental Committee on Trade, Industry and Co-operatives to Move.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the House adopts the Report of the Departmental Committee on Trade, Industry and Co- operatives on its consideration of the approval hearings of Ms Regina Akoth Ombam nominated for appointment as Principal Secretary in the State Department for Trade.

Chairperson, just go by the Order Paper. I beg you to start again for clarity of the record.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the House adopts the Report of the Departmental Committee on Trade, Industry and Co- operatives on its consideration of the approval hearings of Ms Regina Akoth Ombam.

Chairperson, Departmental Committee on Trade, Industry and Co-operatives, do you have the Order Paper?

Yes, I have it.

Please, move the Special Motion as per the Order Paper now.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move the following Special Motion: THAT, taking into consideration the findings of the Departmental Committee on Trade, Industry and Cooperatives in its report on the vetting of nominee for appointment as Principal Secretary, State Department for Trade, laid on the Table of the House on Wednesday, 9th April 2025 and pursuant to the provision of Article 155 (3) (b)…

Hon. Rahim Dawood to move.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I beg to move the following Motion: THAT, the Senate amendments to the Cancer Prevention and Control (Amendment) (No.2) Bill (National Assembly Bill No.45 of 2022) , be now considered. I thank Sen. Samson Cherargei, who was the co-sponsor of this Bill in the Senate. The Senate just made one amendment. This is a very important Bill because it promotes telemedicin…

with the counties and the national Government in training more oncologists because cancer is currently the biggest killer in Kenya. With that amendment, it will be easier for people to get treated as access to cancer treatment will be better enhanced through telemedicine. They will not have to travel to Nairobi or to any of the big cities. Patients will be able to reach doctors while in their hom…

Hon. Rahim Dawood, who is seconding the Motion?

As I said, Hon. Munene will second.

Hon. Patrick Munene to second the Motion. Hon. Patrick Munene (Chuka/Igambang’ombe, UDA) : Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I rise to second this Motion. I do not want to belabour what the Member said. Cancer is a real issue in this country. It is high time we invested in health, especially in cancer treatment. The Senate only came up with one amendment that the Departmental Committee on Healt…

[(Question proposed)]

Hon. Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move: THAT, the Bill be amended by deleting clause 2 and substituting therefor the following new clause— Amendment of the First Schedule to Cap.472.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairperson. I support the amendment because for the first time in the life of this Government, we are reducing taxes at a rate of 25 per cent. We should see the same reduction in terms of power supply when we are constructing power lines. When we are issuing transformers, we should see the monetary value of transformers going down by 25 per cent. I support.

[(Question, that the words to be left out be left out, put and agreed to)]

[(Question, that the words to be inserted in place thereof be inserted, put and agreed to)]

Hon. Temporary Chairperson I beg to move that the Committee do report to the House its consideration of the Excise Duty (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bill No.7 of 2025) and its approval thereof with amendments. The Temporary Chairperson : Hon. Members, we will now move to the next Bill, the consideration of the Senate Amendments to Cancer Prevention and Control (Amendment) (No. 2) Bill …

[(Question proposed)]

[(Question put and agreed to)]

[(Hon. Peter Kaluma)]

Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move that the Committee do report to the House its consideration of Senate Amendments to the Cancer Prevention and Control (Amendment) (No.2) Bill (National Assembly Bill No.45 of 2022) and its approval thereof with amendments. The Temporary Chairman : It is without amendments. Can you just move again for clarity?

[(Hon. Peter Kaluma)]

Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move that the Committee do report to the House its consideration of Senate Amendments to the Cancer Prevention and Control (Amendment) (No.2) Bill (National Assembly Bill No. 45 of 2022) and its approval thereof without amendments.

[(Question proposed)]

[(Question put and agreed to)]

[(The House resumed)]

We will first deal with the Excise Duty (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bill No.7 of 2025) . Chairperson.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to report that the Committee of the whole House has considered the Excise Duty (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bill No.7 of 2025) and approved the same with amendments.

[(Question proposed)]

Sorry. We will expunge that from The Hansard. I regret the disorder. The Mover to move agreement with the Report.

Asante, Mhe. Spika wa Muda. Naomba kuwasilisha hoja kwamba Bunge likubaliane na Kamati kuhusu kuzingatia Mswada wa Marekebisho ya Ushuru wa Bidhaa, Mswada wa Bunge la Taifa Nambari. 7 wa Mwaka 2025. Ningependa kumwomba Mhe. Zamzam aunge mkono.

Asante sana, Mhe. Spika wa Muda. Ninaunga mkono Kiongozi wa Chama cha walio Wengi Bungeni bila kupinga.

I know why the Leader of the Majority Party has chosen Kiswahili.

[(Laughter)]

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said report. I also request Hon. Mishi Mboko to second the Motion in agreement with the report of the Committee of the whole House.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, I want to second Hon. Dawood on this very important matter. We are in the world of technology, and in the world of using electronic...

Order, Hon. Mishi Mboko. The Speaker has not recognised you. Kindly take your seat. First, the Mover will move in agreement with the report. The Chairperson, please move the report to the House.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to report that the Committee of the whole House has considered the Senate amendments to the Cancer Prevention and Control (Amendment) (No.2) Bill (National Assembly Bill No.45 of 2022) and its approval thereof without amendments.

The Mover to move in agreement with the report.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said report. I also request Hon. Mishi Mboko to second the Motion for agreement with the report of the Committee of the whole House.

Hon. Mishi Mboko, proceed to second.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I stand to second Hon. Rahim Dawood on this important Motion on the issue of cancer prevention and control. And since we are in the digital world, the issue of technology is very important, not only in the use of electronics, but also in terms of information and communication, and the

issue of e-health. We need to ensure that we are going to provide proper infrastructure, especially in terms of connectivity, both in the rural and urban centres, so that all Kenyans can receive services without any kind of challenge. I second.

For the convenience of the House, I will defer the putting of the Question on the two Bills we have transacted in the Committee of the whole House until next time in the future when the House Business Committee will schedule them for the House's consideration and decision. Next Order.

[(Putting of Questions Deferred)]