National Assembly · Morning Sitting

Hon. Temporary Speaker, pursuant to Provisions of Standing Order No.44 (2) (c) , I rise to request for a Statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Tourism and Wildlife regarding the legality of legal representation by Kenya Wildlife Service (KWS) officers facing criminal charges in connection with the disappearance of Brian Odhiambo. On 6th March 2025, six officers namely; S…

Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Tourism and Wildlife Committee, is that Hon. Kareke? Is he in the House? If

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I promise to give a response once we come back from recess.

Very well. This should be the first week of resumption. Next are responses to Statements.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, we do not have a response to that Question. In hindsight, we expected the issue to be discussed yesterday when the Cabinet Secretary was on the Floor. Nevertheless, we will still ask the Ministry to give us a response.

Endeavour to bring the Statement to the House.

Yes.

The Member is not in the House, so just table the response.

Much obliged.

[(Hon. Nelson Koech laid the document on the Table)]

Chairperson.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to report that the Committee of the whole House considered the Senate Amendment to the Land (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bill No. 40 of 2022) and approved the same without amendments.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that this House do agree with the Report of the Committee of the whole House on its consideration of the Senate Amendment to the Land (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bill No. 40 of 2022) .

I start by appreciating this House, which held our hand from 2020 when I brought this Bill. I also appreciate Hon. Nyamai, who was chairing the Committee then. The House moved this Amendment Bill, which primarily touches on public land gazettement and titling, so that public land is locked. Later on, the Bill lapsed around 2022, but in the same year, we brought it back, and the same honourable Ho…

Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I beg to second. Thank you.

[(Question proposed)]

Hon. Nyamai, go ahead.

I do not know why it is not accepting. Hon. Temporary Speaker, thank you very much. There seems to be a problem with the connection to the cards. Thank you very much for giving me a chance to comment on this very important Bill that was initiated by the Hon. King’ara, Member for Ruiru. I congratulate him, particularly for his patience. This being a devolved matter, the Bill was discussed here and…

I congratulate the National Assembly and the Senate for the good work done. I hope it sees the light of the day, because this is not the end. It will need to go all the way to become an Act of Parliament for it to be useful. Hon. Temporary Speaker, people who have huge chunks of land are supposed to give a percentage of it back to the Government. When they do so, that land is often taken advantag…

Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu.

Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for this opportunity. I join colleagues in appreciating this Bill, and in particular, Hon. King’ara, who has been spearheading it. I hope it will see light of the day by becoming an Act of Parliament. I was sponsoring the Parliamentary Pensions (Amendment) Bill, which touches on the lives of Members of Parliament who are here and those who have left. I …

Very well. Leader of the Majority Party, that issue has been pending. You can give an undertaking to have it scheduled, at least in this session. That would be important.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I am well guided. We will take it up in the House Business Committee.

Very well. Member for Kiambaa.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I rise to support Hon. King’ara on this Bill because it is very important for us to protect public land. The same people who sometimes subdivide land to allocate it to the public are the ones who fake title deeds to grab it, knowing that such land has no documentation. We have very serious issues in our constituencies. For instance, there may be a public school without a …

few remaining public lands for the purpose of benefiting the public that we represent. I congratulate Mheshimiwa King’ara for coming up with this Bill. I support.

The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai): Thank you, Hon. Members. We are in the Committee of the whole House to consider the Election Offences (Amendment) (No.2) Bill (Senate Bill No.28 of 2024). Clause 2 The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai): Leader of the Majority Party.

THAT, Clause 2 of the Bill be amended by—

Clause 4 The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai): Leader of the Majority Party.

THAT, the Bill be amended by deleting Clause 4. The reason is that Section 17 of the Act provides for offences relating to the use of technology in elections. The technology referred to is the equipment and processes used by IEBC to carry out an election. In addition, the amendment creates the offence of digital interference with political rights of a person, which are covered in various sections …

[(Question of the amendment proposed)]

[(Question, that the words to be left out be left out, put and agreed to)]

[(Clause 4 deleted)]

[(Clause 1 agreed to)]

It is a co-sponsored Bill, Hon. Temporary Chair Lady. The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai) : Okay. Deputy Leader of the Minority Party, Hon. Mbui, proceed.

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move that the Committee do report to the House its consideration of the Election Offences (Amendment) (No.2) Bill (Senate Bill No.28 of 2024) and its approval thereof with amendments.

[(Question put and agreed to)]

[(The House resumed)]

(Senate Bill No.28 of 2024)

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to report that the Committee of the whole House has considered the Election Offences (Amendment) (No.2) Bill (Senate Bill No.28 of 2024) and approved the same with amendments.

Mover to move motion for agreement with the report.

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said report and request Hon. Kimani to second.

Leader of the Majority Party.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I second.

[(Question proposed)]

Hon. Members, do I put the Question?

Yes.

[(Question put and agreed to)]

Mover to move motion for Third Reading.

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move that the Election Offences (Amendment) (No.2) Bill (Senate Bill No.28 of 2024) be now read a Third Time and request the Leader of the Majority Party, Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah, to second.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to second. This Bill is among the NADCO Report implementation Bills. I co-chaired NADCO with the Wiper Democratic Movement party leader and former Vice-President, Hon. Kalonzo Musyoka. The Bills are very important in helping the Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission (IEBC) and our country to midwife the next general elections. Therefore, I commend all those…

I beg to second.

Hon. Chepkonga, you know I have to propose the Question first.

[(Question proposed)]

I thank you. It will be a travesty of justice if I do not say something yet I appeared before the very competent Committee that the Leader of the Majority Party chaired together with the leader of the Wiper Patriotic Front, Hon. Kalonzo Musyoka. The party with the word ‘patriotic’ is questionable. Maybe, we agree with “front”. I must say that the public participation conducted by NADCO was quite …

Very well. There being no more interest in this, allow me to put the question.

[(Question put and agreed to)]

[(The Bill was accordingly read a Third Time and passed)]

The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai): Thank you, Hon. Members. We are in the Committee of the whole House to consider the Election Offences (Amendment) (No.2) Bill (Senate Bill No.28 of 2024). Clause 2 The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai): Leader of the Majority Party.

THAT, Clause 2 of the Bill be amended by—

Clause 4 The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai): Leader of the Majority Party.

THAT, the Bill be amended by deleting Clause 4. The reason is that Section 17 of the Act provides for offences relating to the use of technology in elections. The technology referred to is the equipment and processes used by IEBC to carry out an election. In addition, the amendment creates the offence of digital interference with political rights of a person, which are covered in various sections …

[(Question of the amendment proposed)]

[(Question, that the words to be left out be left out, put and agreed to)]

[(Clause 4 deleted)]

[(Clause 1 agreed to)]

It is a co-sponsored Bill, Hon. Temporary Chair Lady. The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai) : Okay. Deputy Leader of the Minority Party, Hon. Mbui, proceed.

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move that the Committee do report to the House its consideration of the Election Offences (Amendment) (No.2) Bill (Senate Bill No.28 of 2024) and its approval thereof with amendments.

[(Question put and agreed to)]

[(The House resumed)]

(Senate Bill No.28 of 2024)

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to report that the Committee of the whole House has considered the Election Offences (Amendment) (No.2) Bill (Senate Bill No.28 of 2024) and approved the same with amendments.

Mover to move motion for agreement with the report.

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said report and request Hon. Kimani to second.

Leader of the Majority Party.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I second.

[(Question proposed)]

Hon. Members, do I put the Question?

Yes.

[(Question put and agreed to)]

Mover to move motion for Third Reading.

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move that the Election Offences (Amendment) (No.2) Bill (Senate Bill No.28 of 2024) be now read a Third Time and request the Leader of the Majority Party, Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah, to second.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to second. This Bill is among the NADCO Report implementation Bills. I co-chaired NADCO with the Wiper Democratic Movement party leader and former Vice-President, Hon. Kalonzo Musyoka. The Bills are very important in helping the Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission (IEBC) and our country to midwife the next general elections. Therefore, I commend all those…

I beg to second.

Hon. Chepkonga, you know I have to propose the Question first.

[(Question proposed)]

I thank you. It will be a travesty of justice if I do not say something yet I appeared before the very competent Committee that the Leader of the Majority Party chaired together with the leader of the Wiper Patriotic Front, Hon. Kalonzo Musyoka. The party with the word ‘patriotic’ is questionable. Maybe, we agree with “front”. I must say that the public participation conducted by NADCO was quite …

Very well. There being no more interest in this, allow me to put the question.

[(Question put and agreed to)]

[(The Bill was accordingly read a Third Time and passed)]

Chair of the Committee on Delegated Legislation, Hon. Chepkonga

I thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I beg to move the following Motion: THAT, this House adopts the Report of the Committee on Delegated Legislation on its consideration of the Affordable Housing Regulations, 2025, laid on the Table of the House on Tuesday, 12th August 2025, and pursuant to the provisions of Section 59 (4) of the Affordable Housing Act, Act No.2 of 2024, this House approves the …

square kilometres with a voting population of 130,000 people. The area is too small and the people living there would not afford affordable houses. Therefore, the Regulations provide for social housing in place of affordable housing to accommodate Article 43 of the Constitution.

[[The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) left the Chair] [The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai) in the Chair]]

Secondly, the culture of these people cannot allow them to live in skyscrapers. If you went to Turkana today and built a huge apartment, the lower floors and the ground floor will be occupied, the others will remain empty. This particular regulation seeks to cure that. At the beginning, people thought that affordable housing did not include shops, schools and police stations. All these amenities …

within the requirements of Article 118 of the Constitution, it recommends to this House to approve this regulation. On behalf of the Members of the Committee of Delegated Legislation and pursuant to Standing Order 210, it is my honour to move that this House adopts the Report of the

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to give Notice of the following Motion: THAT, this House adopts the Joint Report of the Departmental Committee on Energy and Select Committee on Public Debt and Privatisation on the consideration of Sessional Paper No.2 of 2025 on the proposed Privatisation of Kenya Pipeline Company (KPC) Limited, laid on the Table of the House on Thursday, 14th August 2025 and appro…

Hon. Bashir on behalf of Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, on behalf of the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security, I beg to give Notice of the following Motion: THAT, taking into consideration the findings of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security on its Report on the Approval Hearing of nominees for appointment as the chairperson and member of the National Po…

I know, Hon. Ochanda, that your card is not working, but the first opportunity will go to Hon. Patrick Ntwiga, Member for Chuka/Igambang’ombe. Hon. Patrick Ntwiga (Chuka/Igambang’ombe, UDA) : Thank you Hon. Temporary Speaker for giving me this opportunity. I might say a few things that might look as if I am not supporting these Regulations. First, I clarify that I stand to support the Regulations…

I support.

Hon. Gideon Ochanda.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. One thing we and the Hon. Chairperson need to recognise much more than anybody else is that we are late with these Regulations. They are very good and necessary, but we are late with them. As we debate them, people had started paying the Housing Levy one-and-half years ago. They have been paying minus any guidance. So, in my view, the Department of Housing needs …

Hon. Mark Mwenje, Member for Embakasi West.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. One of the biggest issues that we face when it comes to the Affordable Housing Scheme is the fair allocation of houses. After the launch was done in Mukuru in Embakasi South Constituency, there was a big hike in the number of applications for the houses. Many people apply for those

houses, get rejected, and resort to looking for Members of Parliament or people in power to find a way to get the houses. That is one of the biggest issues which, if we do not solve, the whole programme will lose meaning. The public will lose confidence. We must know who gets the houses. That information must be made public. Part II of the Regulations provides for allocation of affordable houses.…

Hon. Gichimu, your hand is up. Do you have a point of order?

[(Hon. Gichimu Githinji spoke off the record)]

What is out of order?

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I rise under Standing Order 95 owing to the importance of these Regulations for purposes of effecting the houses that have already been delivered. It is important that the mover be called upon to reply so that we can put this matter to rest.

I will allow Hon. Mwenje to conclude.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I believe there is only one more person who has interest in this. As I conclude, there is an issue of the transfer of these affordable houses, especially in Nairobi. The Nairobi City County recovered some houses, but I fear that wealthy businessmen might acquire these houses from people who got them through the affordable housing scheme. Because these people are…

eventually end up back in the slums. The allure of getting money is quite real. That is something I hope will be provided for in these regulations. Thank you.

Hon. Gichimu, I took note of what you said. However, I would like to give a chance to Hon. Wanjiku Muhia. Hon. Wanjiku Muhia, in the interest of time, are you able to make it short?

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I will take less than two minutes. I rise to oppose these Regulations. In the first place, this scheme was wrongfully implemented. Kenyans have been asking why they contribute to the Housing Levy when the land belongs to the Government. The same land is purchased through taxes. For this reason, I oppose. The Regulations are not timely and should have been intro…

I want to find out whether it is the mood of the House that I call upon the mover to reply.

[(Question that the mover be now called upon to reply, put and agreed to)]

Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Hon. Wanjiku Muhia is my very good friend, but she claims that the United Opposition will abolish this programme. I think they are still far in getting the votes to abolish anything. We wish them well in becoming No. 2 in 2027. We can contend with that in 2032. Hon. Temporary Speaker, there are two Members who would like to speak for just one minute ea…

You are completely out of order, Chairman.

I am out of order. I thank you. Hon. Kipchumba Timothy raised the question whether these Regulations were tabled within the specified period of 30 days. The draft Regulations were, indeed, tabled within 30 days. We then asked the Ministry to conduct public participation. The Departmental Committee on Housing, Urban Planning and Public Works should be very careful. You should not make a law that ca…

[(Question put and agreed to)]

[(The Regulations were accordingly approved)]