National Assembly · Afternoon Sitting
Thursday, 19 June 2025
Members highlighted the shortcomings of Kenya’s devolution system, urging reforms and better oversight of county resources. They expressed strong support for the mediated version of the Division of Revenue Bill and called for mediation over litigation between the National Assembly, Senate and County Governors. The debate also stressed the need for greater accountability, civic education and empowerment of county assemblies to ensure allocated funds translate into tangible development. Members praised the County Public Finance Laws (Amendment) Bill for granting county assemblies direct control over their budgets, enabling quicker emergency funding and enhancing accountability. While the majority supported the Bill, concerns were raised about potential over‑empowerment of clerks and the need to curb corrupt governors, with a call for Senate action to block former governors from Senate seats. The debate reflected both optimism about devolution and caution over implementation challenges. Hon. Farah Maalim used his floor time to condemn widespread corruption and mismanagement of devolution funds, especially in rural electrification projects and the NG‑CDF, urging Parliament to enforce stronger accountability measures. He called on legislators to use committee powers to amend laws and stop the misuse of national resources. The remainder of the sitting included brief acknowledgments of student visitors and procedural remarks on a pending motion.
Hon. Members, there is no quorum in the House. Serjeant-at-Arms, ring the Quorum Bell for 10 minutes. Order, Hon. Members. We have quorum to transact business. Clerk-at-the-Table, proceed.
[(The Quorum Bell was rung)]
Leader of the Majority Party.
Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following papers on the Table:
Thank you, Hon. Osoro. Next, Chairperson, Budget and Appropriations Committee.
Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following paper on the Table: Report of the Budget and Appropriations Committee on its Consideration of the Fourth Basis for Revenue Sharing for County Governments. Thank you.
Next order.
Hon. Speaker, I beg to give notice of the following Motion: THAT, taking into consideration the findings of the Budget and Appropriations Committee in its report on the consideration of the Fourth Basis for revenue sharing for county governments, laid on the Table of the House on Thursday, 19th June 2025, and pursuant to the provisions of Article 217 (1) and
Thank you. Whip of the Majority Party, where is the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning, and the Leader of the Majority Party? I wanted to dispose of the Questions.
Hon. Speaker, the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning is on his way. We may skip a little, and the Leader of the Majority Party will arrive a little late today. However, the Deputy Leader of the Majority Party is present.
Is there a Member of the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning who can hold brief when we put the Question at Third Reading?
Thank you, Hon. Speaker. On behalf of this House, I would like to welcome all the students from various schools and counties that are here today, especially those from Korongoi Girls, the most progressive and disciplined girls' school in my constituency. On behalf of Parliament and the rest of us here, we welcome you to this honourable House to observe the proceedings and the things that further t…
[(Applause)]
Thank you. On behalf of the Speaker and the House, we welcome all the students, their teachers, and those accompanying them to the House of Parliament. Hon. Owen Baya, are you ready? Can we now go to Order No. 8?
Mover.
Thank you very much, Hon. Speaker.
[(Several Members stood at the Bar)]
Members at the Bar, take the nearest seats. Hon. DK, where is your nearest seat? Hon. Wanami Wamboka, where is your nearest seat?
[(Hon. David Kiplagat and Hon. Wanami Wamboka stood in the gangway)]
The nearest to the Speaker.
[(Laughter)]
Go ahead.
Hon. Speaker, I beg to move that the Finance Bill (National Assembly Bill No. 19 of 2025) be now read a Third Time. Hon. Speaker, I thank Members who participated in the debate and the eventual completion of this very important piece of legislation to ensure we are within the timeframe. Having said that, I would like to request Hon. Kwenya Thuku, who was one of the Members who contributed very m…
[(Several Members spoke off the record)]
Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I wish to take this opportunity to second the Bill. Thank you. Thank you, Hon. Members.
[(Question proposed)]
Put the Question.
I will now put the Question. I am satisfied we have a quorum
[(Question put and agreed to)]
[(The Bill was accordingly read a Third Time and passed)]
Next Order.
THAT, this House do agree with the Report of the Committee of the Whole House on its consideration of the Kenya National Council for Population and Development Bill (National Assembly Bill No. 72 of 2023) (Moved by Hon. Kuria Kimani on 18.6.2025-Afternoon Sitting) (Resumption of consideration interrupted on 18.6.2025-Afternoon Sitting)
Mover.
Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I beg to move that the Kenya National Council for Population and Development Bill (National Assembly Bill No. 72 of 2023) be now read a Third time. Hon. Speaker, once again, I thank the Members who participated yesterday. Yesterday we had a full House here; not a full House in terms of numbers, but people who combed through the Bill. We had robust debate. This is a good p…
There is no sacrifice. They were working.
Yes, they were working.
[(Laughter)]
Yes, Hon. Irene Mayaka, go ahead.
Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I second. We put the question?
[(Question proposed)]
Yes.
I confirm that we have a quorum in the House.
[(Question put and agreed)]
(The Bill was accordingly read a Third Time and passed)
Minority Whip, take your seat.
[(Question put and agreed to)]
[(The Bill was read a Second Time and Committed to the Committee of the Whole House)]
Hon. Members, you will note, that at Order No. 14, you will be going to a Committee of the Whole House on Orders No. 10 and 11. So, be ready for that. Next?
Order, Hon. Raphael Wanjala and Hon. Benjamin Lang’at. Take your seats.
[(Question put and agreed to)]
(The Bill was read a Second Time and Committed to the Committee of the Whole House) Let us go back to Order No. 7.
Hon. Harun Suleka. Is Hon. Harun Suleka in the House?
Yes.
Go ahead. Hon. Harun Suleka, you have no Statement to make? You are listed as having a Statement to make on behalf of Gitonga Mukunji. You are not in the picture? The statement is stayed. Next is Hon. Protus Akujah. Member for Loima.
[(Hon. Harun Suleka spoke off the record)]
[(Statement deferred)]
It is a General Statement.
Go ahead.
Hon. Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 43 (1) , I rise to make a Statement of great national importance regarding a blood donation drive scheduled to be hosted by the Kenya Young Parliamentarians Association (KYPA) , on Monday, 23rd June 2025, within Parliament Buildings. The KYPA has organised a blood donation drive within Parliament in commemoration of the 2025 World Blood D…
It is for this reason that I invite all Members of this House to participate in the blood donation drive on Monday, 23rd June 2025, in Parliament. Your participation in the drive will be greatly symbolic and transformative. I also encourage Members to use their platforms, both in Parliament, constituencies and counties to create awareness on blood donation. They should also address the cultural, r…
Thank you, Hon. Suleka. Hon. Members, hold on there before we go to the next Order. Yes, Leader of the Majority Party for the Thursday’s Statement.
Thank you, Hon. Speaker. The Clerk was in a rush. Pursuant to provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (a) , I rise to give the following Statement on behalf of the House Business Committee that met on Tuesday, 17th June 2025, to prioritise business for consideration during the week. Hon. Speaker, protect me from Hon. Farah Maalim and Hon. KJ. They are so close to me. Ordinarily, Members do not liste…
[(Hon. Farah Maalim and Hon. John Kiarie consulted)]
[(Hon. Gathoni Wamuchomba spoke off the record)]
Hon. Wamuchomba, just be courteous to your colleagues. He was not being rude. He just said you missed the point because people did not listen. Order, Hon. Wamuchomba. It is out of order and indecent of a lady to tell another Member “kwenda huko wewe.” You should not behave like that. Order, Hon. Wamuchomba.
Thank you for your protection. I was making this point not just for Hon. Wamuchomba's sake; it is for the sake of all Members of Parliament and the country at large. Hon. Wamuchomba might have been here yesterday, but she clearly was not aware that the Finance Bill was being transacted yesterday. We finished with debate in Second Reading the day before. We dealt with the Committee of the whole Hou…
With regard to business scheduled for Tuesday next week, the House is expected to continue with consideration of the following Bills, should they not be concluded today: The Second Reading of:
Thank you, Leader of Majority Party. Next Order by the Chair of the Budget and Appropriations Committee.
Hon. Osoro, you will be the last on this side.
Thank you very much, Hon. Speaker. I also rise to support the mediated version of the Division of Revenue Bill. I congratulate the Senate and the National Assembly team for coming up with an amicable solution. In my engagements with hon. Members from both sides, I realised there was a push and pull, and it took a lot of effort, utmost wisdom and maturity to get to that level of Ksh415 billion. Ini…
money is spent in the counties. It is unfortunate. We must remind them that devolution has been here for over 10 years, and we have not reached the level envisioned by the drafters of the Constitution. Members of Parliament are still being approached to work on issues that are supposed to be handled by the county governments. Civic education should done to the members of the public to know the fu…
the point that you cannot even sleep in your own house because they send goons after you. It is indeed very sad. We urge the Senate to do their work. Their responsibility is to oversee the county governments. What purpose do they serve by inviting a Cabinet Secretary for matters of national security, engaging in theatrics, when they have no means to reprimand, impeach, or even invoke an impeachme…
[(Applause)]
Hon. (Dr) Oundo. You are the last to speak from this side.
Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I also join my colleagues in supporting this.
Hon. (Dr) Oundo, share your five minutes with Hon. Keynan.
I will do three minutes, and then give him two.
I said three minutes each.
Hon. Speaker, I also join my colleagues in supporting the allocation of Ksh415 billion to the counties, but with a lot of reservations. I do not wish to echo what my colleagues have said, but the intention of devolution was to foster successful development in all parts of this country. We had so many issues about balanced development in the 1980s. After nearly 15 years, we expected devolution to h…
Hon. Speaker, I will reluctantly contribute because I know some of us are on retainers here. We have been around for some time.
Order, Hon. Keynan. You may choose to contribute or not.
I did not mention anyone. I said some Members here are on retainers. If you wish, I can name them.
Order, Hon. Keynan! You are out of order. If you wish to contribute, please do so.
Hon. Speaker, you know I have contributed many times here. It would not be an issue if I do not contribute now. Hon. Speaker Order, Hon. Keynan! We have bestowed you the title of ‘the father of the House’ because of your longevity. The least I expect from you is to mentor these young Members by being courteous and friendly, and by showing the best example even under stress. This is what we expect…
You can give the opportunity to somebody else.
Hon. Zamzam.
Asante sana, Mhe. Spika, kwa fursa hii adhimu. Nami pia ni moja wa wanakamati tuliofanya maelewano katika Mswada huu. Kwanza, nachukua fursa hii kuipongeza Kamati andalizi ambayo imefanya mikakati hii. Haikuwa jambo rahisi, na tulikuwa na swintofahamu hapa na pale, lakini mishowe tuliafikiana. Ugatuzi ulikuja ili kufikisha huduma kwa wananchi wa chini. Wajibu wa kamati hii ulikuwa ugavi sawa wa ra…
bodaboda. Juzi mmeona niliwawezesha watu wa bodaboda 40. Vijana wanafurahi na hiyo pesa kidogo. Ukiangalia kina mama, wanapata pesa ya kuwawezesha kufanya biashara. Kaunti wanazo pesa za kuwapatia vijana na akina mama ambayo inaitwa Revolving Fund. Huu ni mwaka wa tatu tukiangalia pesa kukosa kufika Mashinani, na akina mama wanataka kuweka biashara. Wanafanya Serikali ya Taifa hili kulemazwa. Kila…
Mover.
Thank you very much, Hon. Speaker. Let me take this opportunity to thank Members of this House who have made their contributions on this important Bill. This Bill is important in the Budget process because without the passage of this Bill, we cannot appropriate. With the support I have received from the Members, and the contributions they have made, governors have listened to the concerns of this…
[(Question put and agreed to)]
[(Mediated version of the Bill passed)]
At Order No. 14, Hon. Members, at the request of the Leader of the Majority Party, with the agreement of the Chairman of the Budget and Appropriations Committee, and with the approval of the Speaker, we will go to Committee of the whole House on the Appropriation Bill (National Assembly Bill No. 23 of 2025) and stay the Equalisation Fund Appropriation Bill (National Assembly Bill No. 21 of 2025) t…
Sorry Hon. Temporary Chairlady. I was consulting with the Chairperson, and I wish to withdraw that particular amendment, having consulted him on the way forward. The Temporary Chairlady : Very well. Schedule The Temporary Chairlady : Mover, you have an amendment.
[(Hon. Martha Wangari)]
[(Proposed amendment by Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah withdrawn)]
[(Hon. Martha Wangari)]
Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move: THAT, the Bill be amended by deleting the Schedule and substituting therefore the following new Schedule—
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Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. I beg to move: THAT, Clause 2 of the Bill be amended by deleting the words “one trillion eight hundred seventy-seven billion three hundred sixty-six million eight hundred thirty thousand eight hundred twenty-nine” and substituting therefor the words “one trillion eight hundred seventy-seven billion five hundred forty-nine million seven hundred fifty-nine thous…
[(Question of the amendment proposed)]
[(Question, that the words to be left out be left out, put and agreed to)]
[(Question, that the words to be inserted in place thereof be inserted, put and agreed to)]
[(Clause 2 as amended agreed to)]
I beg to move that the Committee do report to the House its consideration of the Appropriation Bill (National Assembly Bill No. 23 of 2025) and its approval thereof with amendments.
[(Question proposed)]
[(Question put and agreed to)]
[(The House resumed)]
Chairperson to report to the House.
Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to report that the Committee of the whole House has considered the Appropriation Bill (National Assembly Bill No. 23 of 2025) and approved the same with amendments.
Mover of the Bill to move agreement with the Report.
Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said report. I request Hon. (Dr) Pukose to second the Motion.
Hon. Temporary Speaker, I second.
[(Question proposed)]
[(Question put and agreed to)]
Mover of the Bill.
Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the Appropriation Bill (National Assembly Bill No. 23 of 2025) be now read a Third Time. I request Hon. (Dr) Pukose to second.
Hon. Temporary Speaker, I second.
Hon. Members, I have confirmed that the House is properly constituted for the purpose of making a decision. I therefore put the question. Next Order.
[(Question put and agreed to)]
[(The Bill was accordingly read a Third Time and passed)]
Hon. Members, Order No. 17 is deferred. I think we have a Communication from the Chairman of the Select Committee on Public Investments Committee on Social Services, Administration and Agriculture. I direct that this be put on the Order Paper at an appropriate time when the Chairman is ready to move. Next Order.
Are you going to move that? The substantive Leader of the Majority Party had initially indicated that he wanted this to be deferred.
We agreed that it be deferred until Parliament sits next. Thank you.
Okay, fair enough. Under the circumstances, Order No. 18 is deferred to an appropriate date in the future. Next Order.
The Chairman of the Departmental
Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I beg to move that the Kenya Institute of Primate Research Bill (National Assembly Bill No.52 of 2024) , be now read a Second Time. Let me begin by thanking the Members of the Departmental Committee on Health, which I chair, for their support in the preparation and tabling of the Committee Report on the Bill in this House. The Kenya Institute of Climate Primate …
[(Hon. Farah Maalim)]
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