National Assembly · Afternoon Sitting
Thursday, 24 November 2022
Hon. Oundo urged the adoption of the National Automotive Policy, calling for a ban on used vehicle imports, incentives for locally assembled vehicles and flexible financing to reduce accidents, pollution and create jobs. Hon. Kiarie backed the policy, highlighting the need for expanded manufacturing, zoning, research and the role of soft‑subject education in automotive design, while noting past missed opportunities. Both speakers emphasized swift regulatory action to boost employment, infrastructure and climate benefits. Hon. John Kiarie advocated for a forward‑looking automotive policy emphasizing green vehicles, bio‑fuels and local industry development, while urging broader transport infrastructure planning. Hon. Shakeel Shabbir countered by highlighting past implementation failures and questioning the relevance of the policy’s focus on conventional vehicles. The exchange reflected both enthusiasm for innovation and skepticism about practical execution. Members highlighted that many Kenyan internet users lose value when data bundles expire before full use and when speeds are deliberately reduced, accusing telecom providers of exploitative practices. They called on the Departmental Committee on Communication, Information and Innovation to investigate, report and ensure refunds before the parliamentary recess. The Temporary Speaker managed procedural interjections while several MPs underscored the urgency of protecting digital consumers.
Ring the bell for quorum. Hon. Members we have quorum.
[(The Quorum Bell was rung)]
I have a Message from the Senate. Hon Members, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 41 (4) of the National Assembly Standing Orders, I wish to convey to the House that I have received a Message from the Senate regarding the passage of the County Governments Additional Allocations (No.2) Bill (Senate Bill No. 4 of 2022) . Hon. Members, County Governments Additional Allocations (No.2) Bill …
On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker.
Yes, Hon. Wandayi, did you rise on a point of order?
Yes. I rise pursuant to the Communication you have just delivered concerning the Bill that has come from the Senate. Without necessarily pre- empting debate, the import of the Bill is the increased allocation of revenues or funds to the
counties. You have indicated quite correctly that you want this House to consider it before it goes for the long recess. Hon. Temporary Speaker, that is fairly okay. Even as we rush to conclude these matters, I am aware that a number of counties, as we speak, have not yet received their rightful allocations from the National Treasury. There are counties which are operating on shoestring budgets. …
On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker.
There is nothing out of order and you know it.
What is your point of order, Hon. Chepkonga? If the microphone is not working, you can come forward.
Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I did not want to rise on a point of order against the Leader of the Minority Party. However, since he is protesting that I have risen….
Has your point of order been overtaken by events?
No. I rise on a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I requested the substantive Speaker for a ruling with regard to the
Order! You do not direct the Speaker.
[(Laughter)]
Are there any Papers to be laid on the Table of the House by the Leader of the Majority Party, Deputy Leader of the Majority Party or Whip of the Majority Party?
[(Laughter)]
Hon. Temporary Speaker, I have Papers to lay on the Table of the House. However, the Leader of the Minority Party was engaging me
on other Papers that are yet to be laid. So, I was just informing him that those will come later at the appropriate time.
[(Laughter)]
Proceed. What is your point of order?
Hon. Temporary Speaker, sorry. There is something else that has just come in on Papers.
Order! Do you want to lay some additional Papers?
Yes. Something has just come in from the Table Office. Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table:
The Defence Cooperation Agreement between the Government of the Republic of Kenya and the Government of the Republic of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the Explanatory Memorandum from the Ministry of Defence.
We are now in Questions. We will start with Question 015/2022 by Hon. Charity Chepkwony, Member for Njoro. We will come back to it. Member for Mwingi West, Hon. Charles Nguna, I understand that he delegated or authorised somebody else to ask the Question on his behalf. I am meant to understand that he has delegated or authorised Hon. (Dr.) Makali Mulu to ask the Question on his behalf. Hon. (Dr)…
Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I did not have the Order Paper but thank you very much for you indulgence. Hon. Temporary Speaker, I rise to ask the Chairperson of the Teachers Service Commission (TSC) the following Question, on behalf of the Member for Mwingi West, Hon. Charles Nguna:
That will be replied to before the Departmental Committee on Education. Next Question is by Hon. Beatrice Adagala, I understand that she has delegated Hon. Joshua Mwalyo the Member for Masinga to ask the Question her behalf. Question No.038/2022
Hon. Temporary Speaker, I stand on behalf of the Member for Vihiga County, Hon. Beatrice Adagala to ask the Cabinet Secretary for Interior and National Administration the following Question:
Fair enough. To be replied to before the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Affairs. Next Question is by the Member for Starehe, Hon. Amos Mwago. You may proceed. Question No. 039/2022
Hon. Temporary Speaker, I rise to ask the Cabinet Secretary for Roads and Transport the following Question: Could the Cabinet Secretary consider allocating the unutilized piece of land that belongs to Kenya Railways Corporation next to Marigiti Market to the traders there on a temporary basis pending structural expansion of the new market in the Central Business District area? Thank you.
Fair enough. To be replied before the Departmental Committee on Transport and Infrastructure. The next Question is by the Member for Gichugu, Hon. Gichimu Githinji. Proceed Hon. Gichimu to ask your Question. Question No. 040/2022
Hon. Temporary Speaker, I rise to ask the Cabinet Secretary for Roads and Transport the following Question:
Fair enough. The Question will be replied to before the Departmental Committee on Transport and Infrastructure. Next is Statements. Pursuant to provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) the following Statements will be requested. Member for Kamukunji, Hon. Yusuf Hassan, where are you? Proceed.
Hon. Madam Chepkwony, please, ask your Question very fast.
Hon. Temporary Speaker, I rise to ask the Cabinet Secretary for Education the following Question:
Fair enough. The Question will be replied to before the Departmental Committee on Education. Chairperson of Committee on
Education, you have a response to a Statement that was sought on CBC. Could you be very brief?
Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I rise to respond to a Statement that was sought by the Member for Embakasi. The Member sought to know the following: The response from the Ministry on the request that the examination be held on different dates or times; Action that the Ministry is taking to make specific arrangements to especially cater for urban areas that have candidates under both curricul…
The KNEC also held meetings with Teachers Service Commission Regional Directors, Directors of Education, Kenya Primary Schools Head Teachers Association (KEPSHA), Kenya Secondary Schools Heads Association (KESHA) and Kenya Private Schools Association (KPSA). The consultative meetings ironed out all the major concerns on the simultaneous administration of the two examinations. The interventions agr…
Fair enough. Circulate it for Members to have ample time to go through and internalize it. Next Order.
the rules and regulations for private land use and management in regard to the minimum and maximum land holdings in Kenya. (Moved by Hon. Ferdinand Wanyonyi on
Who is on a point of order? Leader of Majority Party, proceed. Are you on a point of order?
No, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I was going back to Statements.
On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker. The. Temporary Speaker : Somebody is on a point of order. What is your point of order, Hon. Omboko Milemba, Member for Emuhaya?
[(Hon. Farah Maalim)]
Hon. Temporary Speaker, it is very important that we review our Standing Orders so that Cabinet Secretaries can come here to respond to Questions. On the Statement that has been read out by the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Education, we would have liked to ask the Cabinet Secretary some supplementary questions for clarification purposes, if he was here. The Committee Chair has talk…
The. Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim): Order, Hon. Omboko. We have gone to the next Order. With all due respect to my fellow panellists, you sit in this House. You can amend the Standing Orders to make it possible for Cabinet Secretaries to come here and perform the duties that you want them to perform. For somebody like me who was in the 10th Parliament, when Ministers used to be Members of …
Hon. Temporary Speaker, the House Procedures Committee is seized of the matter of reviewing our Standing Orders to ensure that Cabinet Secretaries come to this House to answer Questions on matters affecting the people of Kenya, who are represented by these hon. Members. Hon. Temporary Speaker, pursuant to Standing Orders 44 (2) (a) , I rise to give the weekly Statement on behalf of the House Busi…
[(Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah laid the Statement on the Table of the House)]
Hon. Waqo, you have a Procedural Motion.
[(An Hon. Member walked across the aisle)]
Order! Take your seat. It is supposed to be a bench but it is now a seat. Ordinarily, the tradition was that it was a bench. It is only the Hon. Speaker who had a seat, but things have changed since the 10th Parliament.
[(Laughter)]
Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move the following Procedural Motion: THAT, notwithstanding the resolution of the House made on Wednesday, 12th October 2022 (Afternoon Sitting) relating to Limitation of Debate on Sessional Papers, this House orders that debate on Sessional Paper No.1 of 2022 on the National Automotive Policy be limited as follows: A maximum of five- and-a-half hours with not mor…
[(Hon. Farah Maalim)]
Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Being fully aware of the importance of this Policy Paper seeking to create an enabling environment for the automotive sector to realise its full potential and position, and as a major client in the industry, I second. Thank you.
Fair enough. I will propose the Question.
[(Question proposed)]
Put the Question.
[(Question put and agreed to)]
Hon. Members, it is now time to adjourn the House. There being no other business and the time being 6.27 p.m., this House stands adjourned until Tuesday, 29th November 2022, at 2.30 p.m. The House rose at 6.27 p.m.
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