National Assembly · Afternoon Sitting

Hon. Owen, make the Statement on behalf of the Leader of the Majority Party.

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. Pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (a) , I rise to make the following Statement on behalf of the House Business Committee, which met on Tuesday, 23rd September 2025, to prioritise business for consideration during the week. Hon. Speaker, I wish to welcome Members back from the long recess. I hope we are all invigorated and ready to perform our role…

Paper, please, be in the House so that we do not drop business because the person who is supposed to move it is not around. I wish to draw the attention of the House to the provisions of Standing Order 53, which mandates the Speaker or any other presiding officer to drop a Motion listed in the Order Paper if the Member concerned fails to move it. Once dropped, such a Motion can only be re- introd…

On a point of order, Hon. Deputy Speaker.

How can you have a point of order on a Statement?

You cannot have.

[(Hon. Mary Emaase spoke off the record)]

Thank you. Hon. Members, consult in low tones.

Yes, can I be heard in honourable silence? Additionally, debate will continue on the following Motions, should they not be concluded today:

[(Loud consultations)]

Order, Hon. Members! I do not know what the excitement is all about. Kindly, let us listen to the Deputy Leader of the Majority Party.

Please tell the gracious lady there that we have a consultation room here.

Proceed, Hon. Owen.

In conclusion, the House Business Committee shall reconvene on Tuesday, 30th September 2025, to schedule business for the rest of next week. I beg to lay this Statement on the Table of the House. I thank you.

Thank you, Deputy Leader of the Majority Party.

We will now move to requests for statements. I have re- organised the Order Paper so that we start with the request by Hon. Mark Mwenje, Member for Embakasi West, since it is time-bound. Is Hon. Mwenje ready? You have a request for statement on the recruitment of the Kenya Defence Forces (KDF) . I will give you priority because I know the matter is ongoing and time-bound. Are you ready?

Yes, I am.

Hold on. Before you start, allow me to recognise the following students who are seated in the Speaker's Gallery: Devki Ruiru Secondary School from Ruiru Constituency, Kiambu County and Nguirubi Secondary School from Ruiru Constituency, Kiambu County. Hon. Mwenje, as you make your statement, you may welcome them on behalf of the House.

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. On behalf of the House, let me recognise and welcome all the schools who are here. This is the House where all laws are made and where decisions are taken on behalf of our country by all the elected leaders. For those of you who would wish to become Members of Parliament, I wish you all the best. Those seats are available and when the time comes, you may vie for the…

On 14th September 2025, the Kenya Defence Forces published an advertisement for the recruitment of officers to various positions at designated recruitment centres across the country. However, the designation of recruitment centres does not take into account the county population distribution. For instance, Nairobi City County, which has 17 constituencies, was allocated only three recruitment centr…

Hon. Members, I will give you a chance to contribute to that statement because I know it is of great concern and national importance. Before that, allow me to recognise the following schools that are seated in the Public Gallery: Enkijape Primary School from Kajiado South Constituency, Kajiado County; Amoso Primary School from Uriri Constituency, Migori County; Moi Secondary School from Nakuru We…

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. On the question of KDF recruitment, I wish to join Hon. Mwenje in requesting for a statement from the Committee. One of my sub-counties, Imenti East, which was recently operationalised, has been excluded from the final recruitment list. I request the Committee to press for a re-

advertisement of the centres for recruitment. My Imenti East Sub-County in North Imenti Constituency should be included. Otherwise, my people will be disenfranchised. I hope the Vice-Chairperson of the Committee has taken note of that.

Hon. Members, I have observed that there is a similar statement regarding the recruitment of the Kenya Defence Forces. I will allow Hon. Ali Wario to present his statement first, after which we shall discuss both of them together. Hon. Ali Wario, you may proceed.

Hon. Members, now I will give an opportunity to Hon. Beatrice Elachi to make her Statement. Thereafter, we will go back to the request for a statement by Hon. Mohamed Machele, Member of Parliament from Mvita. Hon. Elachi, proceed. I know yours is brief.

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I rise to give a general statement regarding the mysterious death of Ms Zaituni Kavaya. Hon. Deputy Speaker, I rise to request for a statement pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 43 regarding the mysterious death of Ms Zaituni Kavaya. The late Ms Kavaya was reported dead under unclear, troubling circumstances at Mpuuga Apartments in Kilimani. Her sudden de…

Hon. Members, I kindly seek your indulgence to move away from the statements briefly to allow us to go to Order No.8, followed by Order No.11, on items 1 and 2, which is Committee of the whole House. Thereafter, we can come back to statements. Hon. Kaluma, you may now reply. Let us move to Order No. 8.

Yes, thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I have listened carefully to the contributions made by the Members on this Bill. I thank them for the useful contributions they have made to elaborate the importance of this law being passed. There have been two worries which I want to allay. One, I have heard very many people asking why the amount being allocated to the counties is at 5 per cent, and not less…

not look at the equitable share, in which case the counties would be seeking 15 per cent, but we looked at the various roads which fall under those very many classifications. I want to urge that in as much as each Member is in their legitimate place to change those proportions, I would request we do not open that area much, because we would have to revert to the ministry in charge of roads with t…

make any amendment to those reservations, it must be supported by two thirds majority Members of this House. Clause 3 The Temporary Chairperson (Hon. Omboko Milemba): Hon. Members, you had already debated the Clause. We were to vote on it before we had a quorum hitch. Hon. Chair.

Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Chairperson. I beg to move: THAT, Clause 3 of the Bill be deleted. On behalf of the Leader of the Majority Party, I confirm that the House agreed with the President’s reservations and recommendations to the Bill that Clause 3 be deleted. The justification is that Clause 3 of the Bill seeks to amend Section 5 of the principal Act by inserting new paragraphs. The…

[(Hon. Omboko Milemba)]

[(Question, that the words to be left out be left out, put and agreed to)]

[(Clause 3 deleted)]

[(Hon. Omboko Milemba)]

[(Hon. Dawood Spoke off the record)]

Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Chairperson. I beg to move: THAT, Clause 4 of the Bill be deleted. I urge the house to agree with the President’s reservations to Clause 4 of the Bill and the recommendation made that Clause 4 of the Bill be deleted. The justification is that clause 4 of the Bill proposed to amend Section 31 of the principal Act by inserting a new sub-section to the effect that…

Thank you. (Question of the amendment proposed) The Temporary Chairperson (Hon. Omboko Milemba): Hon. Dawood.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairperson. It is as if all the clauses are off. This Bill took two years to come to fruition. It was considered by the Senate and then came back to the National Assembly. It is now in the Committee of the Whole House. There is no point of making laws in this House if they can be undone. If the President’s reservations are taken into account, what is the point of law mak…

On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Chairperson. The Temporary Chairperson : What is your point of order, Hon Kiarie?

[(Hon. Omboko Milemba)]

Thank you, hon. Temporary Chairperson. I know you are up to the task to defend the Hon. Chair. It is not in my place to controvert what Hon. Rahim has said. This particular Bill had a special journey to get to where it is. I understand the frustration of Hon. Rahim. However, when you look at the justifications of the President’s reservations, they are right. Hon. Rahim finds himself in this cross-…

[(Hon. Omboko Milemba)]

Thank you, Hon Temporary Chairperson. I sympathise with Hon. Dawood. While he is in essence right, he is placing the blame on the wrong person. It is up to us. As a House, we have the discretion to override the President’s reservations by two thirds majority. If we are so convicted – and we have raised two thirds majority before – then Hon. Dawood can whip all of us to raise two thirds majority to…

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairman. First, I wish to say that I sympathise with my colleague as a friend and also as the Chairman of the Mount Kenya East Parliamentary Caucus.

Chair, I wish to join in support of the sentiments expressed by Hon. Dawood. Article 115 of the Constitution of Kenya has been routinely abused by subsequent presidents to assume the right to make laws, a right enshrined in the Constitution and vested fully in Members of Parliament. If there is any reservation, as Hon. Otiende Amollo has stated, it should be returned as a reservation, not as a wri…

[(Hon. Omboko Milemba)]

Thank you very much. Hon. Temporary Chairman, the Constitution mandates the President to return the Bill with his reservations. If the House does not agree with those reservations, it requires a two-thirds majority to overturn them. What the President does is to put the reservations in writing, which are a form of reasoning, and then he ends with his recommendations. He does not compel. He recomme…

[(Hon. Omboko Milemba)]

[(Question, that the words to be left out be left out, put and agreed to)]

[(Clause 4 deleted)]

Mover.

We have not dealt with Clause 2. The Temporary Chairman : Do we have another clause?

[(Hon. Omboko Milemba)]

We should now move to Clause 2, because that is the order in which they appear. We go to substantive matters, then to definitions. The Temporary Chairman : Hon. Murugara, Clause 2 had already been dealt with. That is what I am very well informed. Hon. Members, we have concluded the consideration of the Bill. Mover.

[(Hon. Omboko Milemba)]

Hon. Temporary Chairman, I now move that the House do agree with the President’s reservations on the Cancer Prevention and Control (Amendment) Bill, (National Assembly Bill No. 45 of 2022) . I ask the Hon. Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security to second. The Temporary Chairman : Is Hon. Naomi Waqo in the House? Proceed to report.

[(Hon. Omboko Milemba)]

[(Hon. Naomi Waqo spoke off the record)]

Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move that the Committee do report to the House its consideration of the President’s reservations to the Cancer Prevention and Control (Amendment) Bill, (National Assembly Bill No. 45 of 2022) , and its approval thereof without amendments, thereby deleting all substantive clauses of the Bill.

[(Question proposed)]

[(Question put and agreed to)]

Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Chairman. I beg to move that new clause 2A be read a Second Time. It is a new clause altogether. The Temporary Chairman : Order. Let me ask Hon. Murugara and Hon. Naomi Waqo to approach the Table. The Temporary Chairman : Very well. We have come to an understanding. Hon. Murugara, you may proceed.

[(Hon. Omboko Milemba)]

[(Hon. George Murugara and Hon. Naomi Waqo consulted with the Temporary Chairperson)]

[(Hon. Omboko Milemba)]

THAT, the Bill be amended by inserting the following new clause immediately after clause 2— 2A. Section 18 of the Wildlife Conservation and Management Act, Cap. 376 is amended by inserting the following subsection immediately after subsection (1)— Amendment of section 18 of Cap. 376. (1A) Where the claim launched under subsection (1) relates to injury, death or any form of loss or damage occasione…

Mhe. Mwenyekiti wa Muda, ninakubaliana na Rais kwa kuthibitisha wale wanaodhuriwa katika maji. Kamati imeongeza coast guard na watu wengine. Sina mengine.

Ahsante sana, Mhe. Mwenyekiti wa Muda. Nachukua fursa hii kumpongeza Rais kwa kuwakumbuka wavuvi.

Tumeona wengi wakidhuriwa na wanyamapori wanafidiwa. Bahari ndio shamba letu. Walikuwa wamewachwa nyuma lakini namshukuru Rais kwa kuwakumbuka wavuvi wa pwani na sehemu nyingine. Wakidhurika baharini, wanaweza kupata fidia. Naunga mkono. Ahsante. (Question, that the new clause be read a Second Time, put and agreed to) (Question, that the new clause be added to the Bill, put and agreed to) The Tem…

Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move that the Committee do report to the House its consideration of the President's recommendations to the Wildlife Conservation and Management (Amendment) Bill, (National Assembly Bill No.3 of 2023) , and its approval thereof without amendments. The Temporary Chairman : Quite interesting, Hon. Members. As you have seen in this second one, the House agrees with …

[(Question proposed)]

[(Question put and agreed to)]

[(Hon. Omboko Milemba)]

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairman. I take this opportunity to welcome the students from Ololulung’a Boys Secondary School from Narok County to this House, where we make laws. When these students come to this House, they learn a lot because they are the future leaders. This is the time they learn how laws are made and where their leaders sit. I welcome them and other students from the entire count…

[(Hon. Omboka Milemba)]

[(Hon. Kitilai Ntutu spoke off the record)]

[(Hon. Omboko Milemba)]

[(Hon. Kitilai Ntutu spoke off the record)]

The Temporary Chairman (Hon. Omboko Milemba): We have already executed that matter but, given that you are already on your feet, I give you one minute. Please give the Hon. Member one minute.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairman, for giving me an opportunity to welcome Ololulung’a Boys Secondary School from my constituency, Narok South, to Parliament. Ololulung’a Boys Secondary School is one of our top schools in the county with top academic performance. They are future leaders and potential Members of Parliament who are likely to come to this House and, maybe, occupy very big offices. I…

[(Hon. Omboko Milemba)]

Hon. Temporary Chairman, these are Committee amendments to the Bill. I beg to move: THAT, the Bill be amended by deleting Clause 3 and substituting therefor the following new clause— Amendment of section 10 of No. 30 of 2011.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairman. I commend the Departmental Committee Chairperson for this timely amendment. To be honest,

police officers and other members of the disciplined forces seem to be going through a lot and a lot seems to be going through them as well. Could we also have the proposed psycho-social units at the lowest level of the administrative structure? As a matter of operational procedures, even the county headquarters should find the mechanisms of devolving this to divisional headquarters so as to have …

Hon. Temporary Chairman, I rise to agree with the proposed amendments by the Departmental Committee, on behalf of Hon. Peter Masara. Clause 4

[(Question, that the words to be left out be left out, put and agreed to)]

[(Question, that the words to be inserted be inserted, put and agreed to)]

[(Clause 3 as amended agreed to)]

Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move: THAT, Clause 4 of the Bill be amended in the proposed new section 12A by inserting the words “including counselling” immediately after the words “wellness resources” appearing in paragraph (a) . The justification for this is that there is need to specifically include counselling as a component of mental health and wellness resources, considering that the …

[(Question of the amendment proposed)]

[(Hon. Omboko Milemba)]

[(Question, that the words to be inserted be inserted, put and agreed to)]

[(Clause 4 as amended agreed to)]

Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move: THAT, Clause 2 of the Bill be amended by—

Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move that the Committee do report to the House its consideration of the National Police Service Commission (Amendment) Bill, (National Assembly Bill No.23 of 2024) , and its approval thereof with amendments. The Temporary Chairman : Hon. Members, we are moving to the last Bill.

[(Question proposed)]

[(Question put and agreed to)]

[(Hon. Omboko Milemba)]

Can the Temporary Chairman report to the House on the President’s Reservations to the Cancer Prevention and Control (Amendment) Bill? The Temporary Chairman was Hon. Omboko Milemba.

[(Hon. Naomi Waqo spoke off the record)]

I am sorry!

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to report that the Committee of the whole House has considered the President’s Reservations to the Cancer Prevention and Control (Amendment) Bill, (National Assembly Bill No.45 of 2022) , and its approval thereof without amendments. Hon. Temporary Speaker, that action deletes all the substantive clauses of the Bill.

Mover, move for the agreement with the report.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said report. I also request Hon. (Dr) Oundo to second the Motion for agreement with the Report of the Committee of the whole House.

Hon. Wilberforce Oundo.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I second.

[(Question proposed)]

Is it the mood of the House that I put the question?

Yes!

[(Question put and agreed to)]

Hon. Members, I hope the House understands the import of that resolution. Just for the record, it means that since the House has agreed with the President’s Reservations to the Cancer Prevention and Control (Amendment)

Bill, (National Assembly Bill No.45 of 2022), that Bill is lost. We essentially deleted all its clauses. That should be on record.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to report that the Committee of the whole House has considered the Computer Misuse and Cybercrimes (Amendment) Bill, (National Assembly Bill No.41 of 2024) , and approved the same with amendments.

Mover, move for agreement with the report.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said report. I also request Hon. Kiarie, Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Communication Information, and Innovation, to second the Motion for agreement with the

Hon. Kiarie John.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to second.

[(Question proposed)]

Put the question!

Is it the mood of the House that I put the question?

Yes.

[(Question put and agreed to)]

Thank you, Hon. Members. Would the Chairperson, in respect of the President's Reservations to the Wildlife Conservation Management (Amendment) Bill, (National Assembly Bill No. 3 of 2023) , now report to the House.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to report that the Committee of the whole House has considered the President's Reservations on the Wildlife Conservation and Management (Amendment) Bill, (National Assembly Bill No.3 of 2023) , and its approval thereof without amendments.

The Mover to move agreement with the report.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said report. I request Hon. Zamzam Mohammed to second the Motion for agreement with the Committee of the whole House in the said report.

Mhe. Spika wa Muda, ninaunga mkono Committee of the whole House kupitisha marekebisho ya Mswada huu. Ahsante sana.

[(Question proposed)]

Is it the mood of the House that I put the Question?

Yes! Hon. Chairperson, in the matter of the National Police Service Commission (Amendment) Bill, (National Assembly Bill No. 23 of 2024) , to report to the House.

[(Question put and agreed to)]

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to report that the Committee of the whole House has considered the National Police Service Commission (Amendment) Bill, (National Assembly Bill, No. 23 of 2024) , and approved the same with amendments.

Hon. Samuel Atandi on behalf of the Mover of the Bill to move agreement with the Report.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that House do agree with the Committee in the said Report. I also request Hon. Keynan, Member of Parliament for Eldas, to second the Motion for agreement with the Report of the Committee of the whole House.

Hon. Adan Keynan.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I second.

[(Question proposed)]

Does Hon. Joseph Denar want to speak to this? He is absent. Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga, do you want to speak to this? Is it, therefore, the mood of the House that I put the Question?

[(Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia shook his head in the negative)]

[(Question put and agreed)]

Mover of the Bill to move Third Reading.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the National Police Service Commission (Amendment) Bill, (National Assembly Bill No. 23 of 2024) , be now read a Third Time. Hon. Temporary Speaker, before I request Hon. Keynan to Second, I want to take this opportunity to commend Hon. Peter Masara for coming up with this very important piece of law. The mental well-being of police officers is something…

this Bill is giving us a framework that will help us identify those police officers and help them manage their mental challenges. I commend Hon. Masara for this and the Committee that looked at this Bill. I would like to request Hon. Keynan to Second.

Hon. Keynan.

Thank you Hon. Temporary Speaker. This is a good Bill. It injects professionalism, enhances good governance and accountability within the policing sector. It also addresses public concerns on police misconduct, corruption and abuse of power. It also clarifies the National Police Service Commission’s mandate in relation to other security agencies. This is, therefore, a very critical Bill. I commen…

[(Question proposed)]

Hon. Beatrice Elachi, you wanted speak to this. Is it the mood of the House that I put the Question?

[(Hon. Beatrice Elachi shook her head in the negative)]

Yes.

Hon. Members, I have confirmed that the House is properly constituted for purposes of making a decision. Thank you very much, Hon. Members, for that part of our House Business today. Hon. (Dr) Oundo, regarding the cyber-crime issues, the day they will be directed to you, is when you will appreciate some of these legislative interventions. I will tell you more at the adjournment of the House later…

[(Question put and agreed to)]

[(The Bill was accordingly read a Third Time and passed)]

The request by Hon. Mohamed Machele, MP for Mvita.

Thank you Hon. Temporary Speaker. Pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request for a statement from the Hon. Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Blue Economy, Water and Irrigation regarding the restoration of water supply infrastructure in Mombasa County. Hon. Temporary Speaker, in December 2020, the Kenya National Highway Authority (KeNHA) and the Kenya Ra…

Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Blue Economy and Irrigation. Is the Vice-Chairperson in the House? Do we

Yes, I will take responsibility. We will get the response in two weeks’ time.

Hon. Machele, you will have the response to your request for statement in two weeks’ time.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

That is satisfactory. The next request for statement is by Hon. Phelix Odiwuor, Member for Lang’ata, directed to the Departmental Committee on Communication, Information and Innovation.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, pursuant to Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request for a statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Communication, Information and Innovation regarding the provision of an express counter for emergency cases on the e-Citizen platform. The e-Citizen digital platform was launched in 2014 as the primary digital gateway for accessing Government serv…

documentation, court orders or other critical approvals such as those who are travelling for prayers at the Haji are subjected to the same standard processing timelines as regular cases. The absence of an express channel on the platform dedicated to emergency cases requiring instant services outside the present timeframes limits the right to expeditious and efficient administrative action, enshri…

Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Communication, Information and Innovation.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I must admit this is quite an innovative suggestion being made by the Member for Langata. As a Committee, we shall take it up. I can see a committee Member here, Hon. Jematiah Sergon. We will expedite it because he is asking for an express counter that fast-tracks emergency cases. We shall table a response in two weeks’ time. Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

Hon. Phelix Odiwuor.

We are talking about fast-tracking issues here. The Committee should also try and fast-track this request, even if it is for a week. There are reasons why this is coming up. The need for a priority counter on e-Citizen should be fast- tracked.

[(Laughter)]

Hon. John Kiarie, the request by Hon. Jalang’o looks reasonable. Can this be done within a week?

Hon. Temporary Speaker, the Committee is effective and efficient. If this was the Committee’s business only, he could have received a response by Tuesday. However, you must understand that the request has to be channelled to the Ministry to process it and make responses. We accept that it has to be fast-tracked. The commitment we can give is that we will respond within two weeks. If we can respond…

Hon. Phelix Odiwuor, within two weeks includes a day after today. You will get the response as soon as it is ready. I know you agree that is reasonable now.

Can I have the microphone? Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Even as you fast-track this request within the week, we will have very important celebrations and prayers in the next few months: Ramadhan and people travelling to Mecca for Haji. We need those services. As a Member of Parliament representing a larger part of the community that is Muslim, I request this statement to be considered. Than…

Thank you, Hon. Phelix Odiwuor. Work closely with Hon. John Kiarie. I know you come from the same county. Work together and reach the end you intend to achieve in public interest, so that they move forward jointly.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request for a statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Health regarding blood donation and transfusion at the Kenyatta National Hospital (KNH) . Blood constitutes a critical life-saving resource that is mainly sourced through voluntary donations by healthy individuals. Pur…

Hon. Naomi Waqo. You know you can be in the House but away from the House. Can you tell us when the Departmental

Hon. Temporary Speaker Hon. (Dr) Mutunga was a bit concerned that he was not given time to defend his fellow Chairpersons. He was raising that concern with me because he is always in the House and yet, he has a lot of responsibility. So, we congratulate him for being available but also urge other Chairpersons to do the same. On Hon. Kamene’s request for statement, it will be responded to in two w…

Or within two weeks?

Yes, within two weeks.

Hon. Kamene, you will get your response on this important request for statement within two weeks. Let us go to request for statement by Hon. Umur Kheir Kassim, Member of Parliament for Mandera County to the Departmental Committee in Charge of Transport and Infrastructure.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for giving me this opportunity. Pursuant to provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I wish to request for a statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Transport and Infrastructure regarding the discriminatory and inefficient passenger clearance processes at the Jomo Kenyatta International Airport (JKIA) , affecting travellers from Mandera C…

Is the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Transport and Infrastructure in the House? What about the Vice-Chairperson? Any Member of the Committee? Yes, Hon. TJ Kajwang’.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, although I am a ranking Member of that Committee, unfortunately, I do not have a brief to hold for the Chairperson.

Hon. Naomi Waqo, the responsibility to the House falls on you again.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I believe within two weeks the Committee should be able to give a response.

Communicate to the Committee that the House will expect a response to this important request for a statement within two weeks. We do not want any section of Kenya's population to be discriminated against in terms of any national issue. We have responses to various statement requests. Response to statement request by Hon. Dr Adan Keynan, Member of Parliament for Eldas Constituency on the subject o…

Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. When I got this response from the ministry and in view of the fact that last time we had a long response, I felt the need to summarise it. As I tried to summarise it, I noted a few issues that I would like to address. One of the issues is that, Hon. Keynan is very specific in his questions and the level of detail required does not warrant generalities.…

On the fourth question, Hon. Keynan asked the Ministry to state the plans that have been put in place to integrate the protection and development of migratory routes and communal grazing lands into the National Spatial Plan and the County Integrated Development Plan for arid and semi-arid lands (ASALs) with a view to securing pastoral livelihoods and promoting sustainable resource management. I lo…

Hon. Keynan.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I would have been surprised if Dr Mutunga had believed and presented this hollow, shallow and too generalised response to this House. I knew what I wanted when I drafted these questions. I knew what I was trying to address. I even knew the answers, but I wanted the Ministry to appreciate and acknowledge that there is a critical livestock sub-sector within the Min…

their own right. They are academic giants. Therefore, I thank the Chairman of the Departmental

Hon. John Mutunga, how long do you need to get this response? This National Assembly will not allow any Ministry or any public official to dismissively respond to any issue concerning any region or any part of this country. Now that you agree there is no response to the questions as required, how long do you need? You know your powers under Article 125 of the Constitution. Where you need to use th…

Hon. Temporary Speaker, let us be fair to the Cabinet Secretary by giving him an extra one week. If we say by Tuesday, we might not be able to contact him between now and then. Again, as Parliament, we will need to formally write to them. It requires at least one week for the letter to reach there. So, when we say one or two weeks, sometimes it is logical.

By Thursday next week.

: I stand corrected on the issue.

[(Tigania West, UDA)]

This House will be expecting your response. If you need the assistance of Parliament to do all that you need to do, including

invocation of Article 125 of the Constitution, please approach the offices of Parliament for assistance. We need a substantive response to the questions by Hon. Adan Keynan by latest Thursday next week. That will be 2nd October 2025, in the afternoon.

: Much obliged, Hon. Temporary Speaker

[(Tigania West, UDA)]

Could I confirm whether the responses by the Ministry of Education to the questions by Hon. (Dr) Oundo Ojiambo and Hon. Josses Lelmengit are available and ready? What is it on that issue?

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I have sat in this House many times and listened to Chairpersons of Committees responding to statements from Members. Each time, the Members who sought them are not satisfied with the responses from the Ministries. We have to look at our Standing Orders and find a way of handling statements in this House. When a Member of Parliament raises a statement, the Committee tables…

Thank you, Hon. Timothy Toroitich. Hon. Mutunga, as I was saying, as a seasoned Member and Chairman of this important Committee, you know everything you need to do to ensure that the issues Hon. Adan Keynan raised are duly responded to. If they give you a response, do not wait to bring it and lament. Just get Parliament to bring the Ministry before you and Hon. Keynan so that, ultimately, we are n…

[(Responses to Statements Nos. 3 and 4 deferred)]

Hon. Oundo, allow me to go to the response to statement number two so that we can conclude on the other businesses. Do we have the response to request for statement requested by Hon. Joseph Namuar, Member for Turkana Central, to the Departmental Committee on Blue Economy, Water and Irrigation? Is the Chairperson, Hon. Kangogo Bowen, present? Or is the Vice-Chairperson or any member of the Committe…