National Assembly · Afternoon Sitting

Thursday, 27 October 2022

Session Summary

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah outlined the procedures for allocating members to departmental and select committees, emphasizing compliance with standing orders and fair representation of majority, minority, independent and non‑parliamentary parties. He highlighted the upcoming nomination of principal secretaries and the need for joint vetting of the Inspector‑General of Police, while urging MPs to be active in their assigned committees despite the inevitable disappointment for some members. Members lauded the contributions of village elders across the executive, legislative and local levels and urged the House to enact remuneration for them, noting the motion has been tabled in several previous parliaments. The debate was largely supportive, with calls for implementation and a procedural request to defer the vote due to insufficient quorum. Members debated a motion to provide stipends, salaries and uniforms for village elders, highlighting their role in dispute resolution, security and community development. While several MPs strongly supported the motion as overdue, the session also saw procedural tensions, with the Speaker ordering members to leave the chamber and discussions about committee assignments. The overall tone reflects both constructive advocacy for the elders and moments of parliamentary discord.

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Hon. Speaker

Hon. Members, we have quorum to transact business. Clerk-at- the Table.

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Hon. Speaker

Leader of the Majority Party.

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Hon. Owen Baya (Kilifi North, UDA)

Thank you very much, Hon. Speaker. I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table:

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Hon. Speaker

Member for Dagoretti South.

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Hon. John Kiarie (Dagoretti South, UDA)

Thank you very much, Hon. Speaker. This is a Motion on the empowerment of artisans by the Government, specifically the National Government Constituencies Development Fund (NG-CDF) . Hon. Speaker, I beg to give notice of the following Motion: THAT, aware that there are many talents among the youth of this country; noting that these talents have been severally displayed through various intervention…

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Hon. John Kiarie (Dagoretti South, UDA)

economy in the next nine years; aware of the immense potential for wealth creation and job opportunities through our own local production generated if well developed and commercialised; recognising that our imports are well in excess of Ksh2 billion and that most of these imports are not relevant to the Kenyan market; noting that the home-grown technology would be region sensitive and appropriate …

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Hon. Speaker

Thank you, Hon. Kiarie. Member for Dagoretti North.

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Hon. Beatrice Elachi (Dagoretti North, ODM)

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I beg to give notice of the following Motion: THAT, aware that Kenya’s economy is largely driven by the informal sector spearheaded by entrepreneurs presenting themselves in form of Small and Micro-Enterprises (SMEs) ; concerned that the informal sector popularly known as the Jua Kali has different segments and categories spread out in value chains ranging from agricultur…

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Hon. Speaker

Next Order!

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Member for Kitui, Hon. Irene Kasalu.

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Hon. Irene Kasalu (Kitui County, WDM)

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I request a statement regarding insecurity and the invasion by camel herders in Kitui County.

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Hon. Irene Kasalu (Kitui County, WDM)

Pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44(2)(c), I wish to request for a Statement from the Leader of the Majority Party regarding the insecurity and invasion of camel herders in Kitui County. There has been a continuous influx of armed camel herders from Tana River, Wajir, Garissa, and Mandera counties in Kitui County. This is of great concern due to the resultant persistent raids by immigr…

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Hon. Speaker

Thank you, Hon. Members. Let us proceed to the Statement by the Leader of the Majority Party pursuant to Standing Order 44 (2) (a) . The Leader of the Majority Party.

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Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA)

Hon. Speaker, before I give the Statement, I have listened to the concerns raised by Hon. Irene Kasalu on the issue she has raised relating to the herding of livestock in Kitui County. I draw Members’ attention to Order No. 8. Without anticipating debate, we should be in a position to constitute the Departmental Committees, including the Departmental Committee in charge of security issues. I beg t…

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Hon. Speaker

As and when the committees are constituted, the Clerk will pass on the Statement to the committee mentioned.

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Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA)

Hon. Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (a) , I rise to give the following Statement on behalf of the House Business Committee which met on Tuesday, 25th October 2022 and today Thursday, 27th October 2022 to prioritise the business for consideration. Hon. Speaker, as you are aware, the House reconvened on Tuesday 25th October 2022 from the short recess where Members had a…

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Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA)

Members will recall that yesterday, Wednesday, 26th October 2022, the House considered the Report on the vetting of nominees for the approval of Cabinet Secretaries, the Secretary to the Cabinet, and the Attorney-General to their various positions. I would like to take this opportunity to thank Members for their dedication, support and active participation in the vetting process. Indeed, their sac…

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Leader for the Majority Party.

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Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA)

Hon. Speaker, I beg to move; THAT, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 175, this House approves the appointment of Members to the respective Committees of the House as specified in the following schedule:

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Hon Speaker

Hon. Members, there is a Supplementary Order Paper in circulation and that is what will guide business for the remainder of the afternoon. You may proceed.

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Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA)

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I think those who have not received it, there are Serjeant-at-Arms still going around distributing them. I can see there are Members who have volunteered to assist the Serjeant-at-Arms. The Supplementary Order Paper has the schedule that has all the committees; the 20 Departmental Committees and the Select Committees. Let me begin by thanking, in a special way, all the Me…

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Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA)

notice that all the Departmental Committees have an average of 15 Members. The Majority Party has eight Members and seven slots are given to the Minority Party. However, Standing Order 174(1) requires that the Committee on Selection, in nominating Members to serve in a Select Committee, shall ensure that the membership of each committee reflects the relative majorities of the seats held by each of…

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Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA)

as a chairperson. They are not 24 of them because some are chaired by the Hon. Speaker, for example, the House Business Committee (HBC) and the Committee on Powers and Privileges. Again, this will allow Members to get more slots. This is not from the Majority Party only but even the Minority Party with about eight committees they are designated to chair. Therefore, even on the minority side, thos…

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Hon. Speaker

Yes, Hon. Wandayi.

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Hon. Opiyo Wandayi (Ugunja, ODM)

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I want to make very brief comments. First and foremost, I wish to acknowledge this has been a very tedious and complex exercise that was obviously bound to generate a lot of interest and anxiety.

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Hon. Opiyo Wandayi (Ugunja, ODM)

Let me say from the outset what we have before us, in my view, is work in progress. Hon. Members, if you will recall, the Standing Orders dictate that those Members who will be lucky enough to become chairpersons, will have to relinquish their membership in their second or third committees. So, they remain in only one committee each. Of course, this will create more chances and opportunities for o…

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Hon. Speaker

Order, Hon. Members! I now put the Question.

[(Question proposed)]

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Hon. Speaker

There being no desire to debate this matter, I will put the Question. Hon. Members, it is important to bring to your attention that Committees will be facilitated from Monday to have their inaugural meetings and elect the Chairs because there is a lot of work awaiting you. I want to direct that the Committee responsible for security that will be vetting the Inspector General of Police be facilita…

[(Question put and agreed to)]

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Hon. Speaker

Order, Hon. Members. Order, Leader of the Majority Party. Hon. Members, I want to acknowledge the presence of a delegation of Members of Parliamentary Parties from the Parliament of Finland seated in the Speaker’s Gallery. Unfortunately, the clerks have not provided me with the names of the members and so I cannot read any names, but on behalf of the House and myself, we welcome you as colleagues …

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Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA)

Hon. Speaker, as you are aware, our new Cabinet Secretaries have just been sworn in. With your indulgence, I beg to defer this Motion on Sessional Paper No. 3 on the National Action Plan on Business and Human Rights. I would want to engage with the new Cabinet Secretaries to see if this Sessional Paper conforms to the policies and plans that are laid out by the new administration. I beg your indul…

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Hon. Speaker

It is so ordered as requested. Next Order.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr.) Rachael Nyamai)

Hon. Yussuf Hassan. Is he in the House?

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Hon. Member

No.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr.) Rachael Nyamai)

In the absence of Hon. Yussuf, the motion is deferred.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr.) Rachael Nyamai)

There being no other business and the time being 5.06 p.m., this House stands adjourned until Tuesday, 1st November 2022, at 2.30 p.m. The House rose at 5.06 p.m.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr.) Rachael Nyamai)

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