National Assembly · Afternoon Sitting
Thursday, 28 November 2024
The Deputy Speaker moved the Startup Bill, outlining a six‑part framework to register, incubate and incentivise start‑ups, aiming to boost youth employment, innovation and economic growth. The speech highlighted Kenya’s strong tech ecosystem, the lack of a regulatory framework, and cited comparable startup legislation in Tunisia and Senegal, while noting procedural delays and the need for House Business Committee action. Members praised Hon. Irene Mayaka and Senator Crystal Asige for introducing the Start‑up Bill, highlighting it as a progressive piece of legislation that will foster innovation, entrepreneurship and private‑public collaboration in Kenya. The debate emphasized the Bill’s provisions for fiscal and non‑fiscal incentives, support for marginalized groups, and clear eligibility criteria for start‑ups, while urging government agencies to implement the framework. Overall, the speakers expressed strong support and optimism for the Bill’s potential impact on youth‑led enterprises. The debate focused on the Start‑Up Bill, with Hon. Ibrahim Saney praising its provisions for tax incentives, credit guarantees, mentorship and a research fund to nurture Kenyan innovators, especially youth and those in remote areas. A brief exchange arose over the use of the term “illiterate” when describing a skilled technician, which was clarified by the Temporary Speaker, and the session was later adjourned due to a lack of quorum.
Hon. Members, there is no quorum. Serjeant-at-Arms, ring the Quorum Bell. Hon. Members, we now have a quorum to transact business. Clerks-at-the-Table.
[(The Quorum Bell was rung)]
implementation of the transition to the Social Health Authority (SHA) and the Social Health Insurance Fund (SHIF). We will have a breakfast Kamukunji in the New Wing Dining Room on Tuesday, 3rd December 2024, from 7.00 a.m. Do not have breakfast in your houses. You will be served breakfast so that we can engage with the Ministry, the Cabinet Secretary, her Principal Secretaries, and the Director-G…
I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table: Reports of the Auditor-General and financial statements for the year ended 30th June 2024, and the certificates therein in respect of:
Next is the Vice-Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Defence, Intelligence and Foreign Relations. Leader of the Majority Party, I directed that you ensure that a Chair represents their Committee when you put their matters on the Order Paper. The Vice-Chair can only step in when the Chair is not there. You do not have to list the Vice- Chair. The Chair means and includes the Vice-Chair.
Hon. Speaker, I am the Chair.
Are you the Chairman? Go on.
[(Laughter)]
I thought you had reservations about my position as the Chairman. However, Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Paper on the Table: Report of the Departmental Committee on Defence, Intelligence and Foreign Relations on its consideration of the Treaty Making and Ratification (Amendment) (No.2) Bill, (National Assembly Bill No. 9 of 2024) .
Thank you, Hon. Chairman. Next is the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Social Protection, Hon. Alice Ng’ang’a.
I beg to lay the following Paper on the Table: Reports of the Departmental Committee on Social Protection on its consideration of:
Thank you, Hon. Alice. Clerks-at-the-Table, read out the notices of Motions. Hon. Members, we have a few Statements at Order No. 7. However, I direct that we move to Orders No. 8, No. 9 and No. 10 and put questions, having finished your committees, and then we return to Statements. Order, Hon. Alice. Take the nearest seat. Where you are going is definitely not the closest seat.
[(Hon. Alice Ng’ang’a stood in the aisle)]
[(Laughter)]
Mover. Leader of the Majority Party.
Hon. Speaker, I beg to move that the Public Finance Management (Amendment) (No.3) Bill, (National Assembly Bill No. 44 of 2024) , be now read a Third Time. I request Hon. Junet Mohamed, the Leader of the Minority Party, to second.
Hon. Junet.
Hon. Speaker, I second.
[(Hon. Joyce Kamene stood in the aisle)]
Mama Machakos, take your seat. I have confirmed that we have a quorum.
[(Question proposed)]
[(Question put and agreed to)]
[(The Bill was accordingly read a Third Time and passed)]
Mover.
Hon. Speaker, I beg to move that the Public Finance Management (Amendment) (No.4) Bill, (National Assembly Bill No. 45 of 2024) , be now read a Third Time. I also request Hon. Major Bashir to second.
Major.
I second.
[(Question proposed)]
Hon. Kamket, take your seat.
Mover.
Hon. Speaker, I beg to move that the Public Procurement and Asset Disposal (Amendment) Bill, (National Assembly Bill No. 48 of 2024) , be now read a Third Time. I also request Hon. Beatrice Elachi, Member for Dagoretti North, to second.
I second.
[(Hon. Kassait Kamket stood in the aisle)]
Hon. Kamket, you look restless today. Kuna mtu ameiba ng’ombe yako or is it the other way round?
[(Laughter)]
Put the question.
We put the question?
Yes.
I confirm that we have a quorum to put the question.
[(Question put and agreed to)]
[(The Bill was accordingly read a Third Time and passed)]
Thank you. Call out Order No.11 as well.
We go back to Order No.7.
We will start with the request for statement by Hon. Joyce Kamene, Member for Machakos County. Give Hon. Joyce the microphone. Hon. Joyce, that is the problem of sitting where you never sit. They keep flashing where you ordinarily sit. You do not have your card? Go ahead.
Hon. Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request a statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Blue Economy, Water and Irrigation regarding the status of Mavoko Water Supply Project. Hon. Speaker, the Mavoko Drinking Water Supply Project is an initiative financed jointly by the Governments of the Republic of Kenya and the Kingdom of Bel…
Hon. Speaker, it is against this background that I request for a statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Blue Economy, Water and Irrigation on the
Thank you, Hon. Kamene. Chairperson, Departmental Committee on Blue Economy, Water and Irrigation, Hon. Bowen. When will you bring the response?
Hon. Speaker, the Mavoko Water Project is very important. It has been delayed for long. Allow me to follow up with the Ministry and report back to the House at the beginning of next year. I will bring it by the first week of February because it is a complex issue that has been running for years.
Okay. Next is Hon. David Kiplagat.
Hon. Speaker, he has stepped out.
On a point of order, Hon. Speaker.
Okay. Hon. (Dr) Oundo, what is your point of order?
I know you have mentioned about us passing Bills in the National Assembly and saying outside there we do not know their content. But that is a story for another day. Sometime in the middle of this year, we passed the Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission (Amendment) Bill 2024. It was the expectation of Kenyans that before we go for Christmas or earlier, we would have a new functioning Co…
Thank you, Hon. (Dr) Oundo. It is not even within the jurisdiction of the Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs anymore. They finished their work. The matter came to the Commission. It is recommending authority for appointment. We have the nominating bodies. Law Society of Kenya (LSK) and Parliament, through Parliamentary Service Commission, nominated panelists. Religious bodies and …
Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I rise to pay tribute to Mr Absalom Castro Wendo. It is with profound sorrow that I rise to pay tribute to Mr Absalom Castro Wendo, a son of Ikolomani Constituency, who served this House diligently as a Serjeant-at-Arms. Mr Wendo was awarded the Head of State Commendation by the late President Mwai Kibaki in 2010 for his exemplary work and unwavering devotion to duty in t…
generations to come. He carried on his duty to the inaugural session of Bungoma County Assembly from 2013-2017. I extend my heartfelt condolences to the family, friends, former colleagues both in the National Assembly and Bungoma County Assembly and the people of Ikolomani, Kakamega County and Bungoma County as they come to terms with this massive loss. We buried Mr Wendo's father, Mzee Muyeyia, …
It is ‘eternal peace’. Thank you, Hon. Shinali. Among us here, the only people who know Mr Wendo are Hon. Keynan and a few others. He was a colossus in this House. He was very commanding. He was always the one clearing the way for Hon. Speaker to come to the Chamber. He was a very good man. When devolution came, he was seconded to establish Bungoma County Assembly where he worked for five years. M…
Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I want to refer you to Articles 27 and 38 of our Constitution. Article 27 of the Constitution provides for freedom against discrimination, especially on ethnicity.
Is it freedom against discrimination or freedom of discrimination?
Equality or freedom from discrimination. Article 38 of the Constitution protects political rights. Allow me to quote Article 38 (2) of the Constitution which says: “Every citizen has the right to free, fair and regular elections based on universal suffrage and the free expression of the will of the electors for—
Which Article in the Constitution?
Article 38 (2) (a) .
Go on.
Every citizen has the right to free, fair and regular elections based on universal suffrage, and the free expression of the will of the electors for—
discrimination that might be taken upon. This is a grave issue from my constituency. It has caused some serious tensions in some of our metropolitan constituents. Thank you, Hon. Speaker.
Hon. Deputy Speaker.
Hon. Speaker, I stand on a point of information. I want to inform the Member that we have an independent constitutional commission that deals with those kinds of complaints. The easiest thing is to go and report to NCIC. They will investigate and the person will be prosecuted. We have seen NCIC in the past. They used to arrest people at night. If you remember the story of Hon. Linturi when he spok…
Hon. Mwenje, please provide the clip so that things do not escalate. The Speaker has not seen it yet. If you can provide the clip to the Clerks-at-the-Table, I will look at it tomorrow or over the weekend, and give direction on Monday. For the avoidance of doubt, the Constitution of Kenya 2010 enjoins every citizen to live anywhere on the territory of Kenya, to own property, transact business, mak…
Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I was hoping it was on my Statement. I have viewed the clip. I do not know whether the gentleman on the clip is an actual religious leader or just draped in Islamic religious clothing, but what he was saying is very unfortunate, and I want to agree with the Hon. Deputy Speaker that, indeed, NCIC has failed this country. The kind of things that the person was saying were no…
so that the House concludes with all that it needs to, before we commence the long recess at the end of next week. Members will note that today and tomorrow, Sittings are dedicated to consideration of individual Members’ business. I, therefore, urge Members to be present and ready to prosecute their businesses. Further, with regards to business that is scheduled for tomorrow, Friday, 29th Novembe…
And remind Members to get on the Standard Gauge Railway (SGR) on the morning of 6th.
Hon. Speaker, thank you for that reminder. We are prioritising this business, and Hon. Waluke and Member for Kanduyi, there is a Sitting tomorrow at 9.30 a.m. and we expect you to be there to represent the people of Bungoma. As Hon. Speaker has indicated, after we finish with this priority business, on 6th December 2024 at 6.00 a.m., Hon. Members are expected to accompany him on the Standard Gauge…
Hon. Junet.
Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I rise to seek your indulgence on a matter of importance. For quite some time now, Parliament has been under attack from the religious leaders and other groups. We are not Members of Parliament by accident. We were elected by the people of Kenya.
[(Applause)]
There is one in Kisii that had 45 candidates.
Yes! You are right, Hon. Speaker. Imagine in Kisii, they had 45 aspirants. You cannot bastardise a position that has been given by the Constitution. The people donate their sovereignty and yet, they are saying that Parliament is useless and has been captured. In this afternoon Sitting, we have passed almost five Bills.
the financial years 2018/2019, 2019/2020 and 2020/2021, laid on the Table of the House on Thursday, 25th July 2024 subject to:
Hon. Members, the Chairperson of the Committee had requested that we defer this Order to a later date. Next Order.
Hon. Members, the time being 6.53
