National Assembly · Afternoon Sitting

Tuesday, 18 June 2024

Session Summary

Members debated the Care and Protection of Child Parents Bill, raising concerns that it oversteps county authority in basic education and creates impractical requirements for schools handling pregnant students. While some praised the intent to support vulnerable child‑parents, many argued the bill duplicates existing laws and should be redrafted as a comprehensive children’s act. The discussion highlighted both moral reservations and procedural criticisms of the legislation. Members debated a Bill aimed at protecting teenage mothers by mandating school re‑admission and establishing licensed childcare centres. Hon. Beatrice Kemei and Hon. Mary Emaase emphasized the urgent need given high teenage pregnancy rates and supported the legislation, while Hon. T.J. Kajwang raised concerns that the Bill may effectively be a Money Bill, questioning its funding and constitutional classification. The discussion combined constructive advocacy for girl‑child rights with procedural criticism. Hon. Zamzam Mohammed urged increased funding and facilities to keep pregnant girls in school, citing scholarships and childcare support. Hon. James Nyikal and Hon. Peter Orero affirmed the Bill's principle of protecting girl‑children but flagged procedural, financial and cultural challenges, emphasizing its classification as a Money Bill. The debate combined strong support for the initiative with caution over implementation and resource allocation.

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Hon. Members, we have a quorum to transact business. Clerks-at-the- Table, where is the Message? Order! Hon. Members on their feet, take your seats. Hon. Wamaua, take the nearest seat, at least, for now.

[(Several Members walked into the Chamber)]

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Hon. Members, I have a Message from the Senate on the passage of three Senate Bills and two National Assembly Bills. Pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 41 (4) , I wish to report to the House that I have received five Messages from the Senate regarding the passage of three Senate Bills and two National Assembly Bills. The first Message conveys that on 11th June 2024, the Senate considere…

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passage. In this regard, you will notice that I have directed the Clerk to list the two Bills for First Reading under Orders No.10 and 11 in the Supplementary Order Paper of today, Tuesday, 18th June 2024. Thereafter, both Bills will stand committed to the Budget and Appropriations Committee for consideration. I urge the Committee to prioritise the Bills and report to the House as soon as is pract…

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Hon. Owen Baya (Kilifi North, UDA)

Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table:

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Chairperson of the Committee on Regional Integration, Hon. Wanjiku.

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Hon. Wanjiku Muhia (Kipipiri, UDA)

Hon. Speaker, I do not have the Papers. Maybe, I should consult the Table Office in a few minutes.

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Clerks-at-the-Table, do you have her Papers? Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Labour. Hon. Karemba, do you have a Report to table? Clerks-at-the- Table, you should be notifying Members who have business way in advance. Hon. Wanjiku Muhia, take the next microphone. There is a microphone next to you. Is it not working? Hon. Gacheri, give space to Hon. Wanjiku. Use that.

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Hon. Wanjiku Muhia (Kipipiri, UDA)

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. This is working. I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table: Reports of the Committee on Regional Integration on:

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Hon. Karemba.

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Hon. Muchangi Karemba (Runyenjes, UDA)

Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Paper on the Table: Report of the Departmental Committee on Labour on its consideration of the Employment (Amendment) Bill, (National Assembly Bill No. 62 of 2023) . Thank you, Hon. Speaker.

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Next Order. Chairperson Regional Integration Committee, Hon. Wanjiku Muhia.

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Hon. Wanjiku Muhia (Kipipiri, UDA)

Sorry, Hon. Speaker, the microphones have a problem. Hon. Speaker, I beg to give notice of the following Motion: THAT, this House adopts the Report of the Select Committee on Regional Integration on its consideration of business transacted by the East African Legislative Assembly at the Fourth Meeting of the First Session of the Fifth Assembly, laid on the Table of the House on Tuesday, 18th June…

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Hon. Timothy Wanyonyi, Member of Parliament for Westlands Constituency.

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Hon. Tim Wanyonyi (Westlands, ODM)

Hon. Speaker, I beg to give notice of the following Motion: THAT, aware that land is a critical but limited factor of production that supports human habitation and food production; noting that, agriculture is Kenya’s economic mainstay; appreciating that the Central Bank of Kenya (CBK) Monetary Policy Committee Agriculture Sector Survey 2022 estimated the contribution of the agriculture sector to …

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Thank you. Hon. Peter Nabulindo.

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Hon. Peter Nabulindo (Matungu, ODM)

Hon. Speaker, I beg to give notice of the following Motion: THAT, aware that Article 43 (1) of the Constitution entitles every person to the right to the highest attainable standard of health, which includes the right to health care services; further aware that, every year, an estimated 14,000 children born in Kenya suffer from sickle cell and haemophilia diseases, with the highest prevalence rat…

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Hon. Peter Nabulindo (Matungu, ODM)

haemophilia diseases; concerned that, the dearth of data and information negatively hinders prioritisation of resources and implementation of sickle cell disease management programmes; recognising that, the number of infant deaths that are caused by the disease continues to grow as a result of under-funding due to lack of data on the number of cases of the killer disease; now, therefore, this Hous…

[(Loud consultations)]

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Go on to the next. Hon. Members, the conversations are too loud. I can barely hear what the Member for Matungu is saying. Go on to the next.

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Hon. Peter Nabulindo (Matungu, ODM)

Hon. Speaker, I beg to give notice of the following Motion: THAT, aware that commercial sugar-cane production in Kenya was introduced in the early years of Independence with an aim of eliminating dependence on sugar importation and contributing to economic transformation in the sugar belt and the country at large through agriculture; acknowledging that, at its pinnacle, the sugar industry signifi…

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Hon. Peter Nabulindo (Matungu, ODM)

roll back initiatives for reviving sugar milling; recognising that, further investment in revamping sugar companies before reviving sugar-cane farming would occasion loss of the invested public funds instead of yielding success; now therefore, this House resolves that, the national Government, through the Ministry of Agriculture and Livestock Development, reviews the sugar development policies to …

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Thank you, Hon. Oscar Nabulindo. Next Order.

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Requests for statements. Member for Kirinyaga County, Hon. Jane Njeri.

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Hon. Njeri Maina (Kirinyaga County, UDA)

Hon. Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request for a statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security regarding the murder of Mr. Derrick Gachoki who had finished his secondary school education in 2023 and was set to join the university. On 18th May 2024, Mr. Derrick Gachoki, aged 19 years, was shot dea…

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Hon. Tongoyo, when can you bring a response? Two weeks?

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Hon. Gabriel Tongoyo (Narok West, UDA)

Yes.

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Hon. Rael Kasiwai (West Pokot County, KUP)

Hon. Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I wish to request for a statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Blue Economy and Irrigation regarding the current status of the construction of the Siyoi-Muruny Dam in Pokot South Constituency, West Pokot County. Hon. Speaker, the Siyoi-Muruny Dam is a critical development project for West Pokot County…

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Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Blue Economy and Irrigation, Hon. Bowen, when can you bring the Statement?

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Hon. Kangogo Bowen (Marakwet East, UDA)

Hon. Speaker, we will bring a response in two weeks.

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Okay, two weeks it is. Next is Hon. Rahab Mukami, Member for Nyeri County.

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Hon. Rahab Mukami (Nyeri County, UDA)

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request for a statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Health regarding support for persons with cerebral palsy in the country. Hon. Speaker, in the past, stigma and discrimination were major barriers for persons with cerebral palsy. Such challenges were due to lack of awareness and…

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Hon. Rahab Mukami (Nyeri County, UDA)

the society. This can be sorted through minimal Government support, budget allocation, society outreach and product services for intervention. However, persons with cerebral palsy are now coming out and interacting with society, but we are still not yet where we need to be in terms of supporting them in Kenya. There are still gaps in healthcare, education, employment, support and social participa…

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Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Health, Hon. (Dr) Pukose, that request is to your Committee. Were you even listening? I saw Hon. Wangari is keeping you busy.

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Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA)

Yes, Hon. Speaker. I was consulting with the Chair about the retreat to Kisumu, which they had scheduled for this week and yet, we have the Finance Bill. I want to assure the Member that we can give the response in two weeks.

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Statement requested by Hon. Timothy Toroitich, Member for Marakwet West. Hon. Tongoyo.

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Hon. Gabriel Tongoyo (Narok West, UDA)

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. The Member for Marakwet West, Hon. Timothy Toroitich, sought a statement regarding the issue of National Police Reservists (NPR) deployed in banditry-prone areas. In response to the said request for statement, I want to state as follows:

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Hon. Timothy Toroitich, have you heard the response? Give him the microphone.

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Hon. Timothy Kipchumba (Marakwet West, Independent)

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Whereas I appreciate the response by the Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Affairs, we have been informed that the allowance payable to NPR is Ksh5,000. I would like to know the exact frequency of payment. Are they paid monthly, quarterly or yearly?

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Hon. Tongoyo.

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Hon. Gabriel Tongoyo (Narok West, UDA)

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I indicated that they are paid a stipend of Ksh5,000 monthly. It is also good to appreciate that the Government is looking into this. When the economic situation improves, discussions will be held to see how we can enhance that amount.

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Next is a response to a request by the Member for Kilgoris, Hon. Julius ole Sunkuli. Is he in the House?

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Hon. Leader of the Majority Party. Where is Hon. Ichung’wah?

[(Hon. Owen Baya spoke off the record)]

[(Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah walked into the Chamber)]

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Move your Procedural Motion.

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Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA)

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I beg to move the following Motion: THAT, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 30 (3) (c) , this House resolves to hold a morning sitting on Thursday, 20th June 2024, commencing at 9.30

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Hon. Opiyo Wandayi (Ugunja, ODM)

Hon. Speaker, I wish to second the Motion, but I want to add the following. Obviously, Members from across the political divide would want adequate time to contribute to the matter of the Finance Bill at the Second Reading stage. It was the wisdom of the House Business Committee that we allocate enough sitting days, that is Wednesday morning and afternoon, Thursday morning and possibly Thursday af…

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Hon. Opiyo Wandayi (Ugunja, ODM)

made, we cannot be sure. We are eagerly waiting to see that report and dissect it with a toothcomb before we can make informed decisions. With those remarks, I second. Thank you.

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Order, Hon. Members. Those on their feet, take your seats. Next Order!

[(Question proposed)]

[(Question put and agreed to)]

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Chairperson of the Budget and Appropriations Committee.

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Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA)

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I beg to move: THAT, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 120, this House resolves to reduce the publication period of the Appropriation Bill, (National Assembly Bill, No. 33 of 2024) , from seven days to five days. This is because the calendar that we have between today and next week is very tight. We will be discussing major and far-reaching policy instruments in…

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Hon. Didmus.

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Hon. Didmus Barasa (Kimilili, UDA)

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I rise to second this Motion. As the Chairman has explained, it is in very clear terms. We have a lot that this House is going to process and most importantly, we must meet the timelines considering that we are coming to the end of this Financial Year. This House is youthful. We can go through the Finance Bill and understand where those monies are coming from. Without muc…

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Thank you, Hon. Didmus. Order Commissioner Makau. Commissioner Makau, freeze or take the nearest seat. Can I put the Question? Yes, Hon. Kajwang’.

[(Hon. Patrick Makau walked into the Chamber)]

[(Question proposed)]

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Hon. T.J. Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM)

Hon. Speaker, I see no merit in reducing the dates or days that we have in this Bill. The number of days that we are talking about in this Bill is already published, but it is five days old. If we then reduce, it becomes ripe, which in number ten, it can be put before the House to be read a first time. Mathematically, what we are talking about is two days. We have already passed a resolution to di…

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Hon. Kajwang’, you are a Member of the House Business Committee. You know that allocating the Finance Bill the number of days that we did does not mean it will consume all the days. In case it ends early, then this Motion becomes relevant. But it is entirely up to the House. Can I now put the Question?

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Yes.

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Hon. Members, as we go to the next Order, it is expected that the Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning, Member for Molo, will table his Committee Report this afternoon. I have not seen it yet. I have to approve it to be tabled. When

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I recess, I will have to perform that function. Once that is done, the Report will be available at the Table Office. I encourage each Member to get the Report either from the Table Office physically or on the parliamentary website. Read through it properly. Upon doing so, we have allocated time as follows: Tomorrow morning from 9.30 a.m., the Finance Bill will be moved by the Committee Chairman.…

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Hon. Deputy Speaker

We will defer this Bill because the Member who sponsored the Bill, Hon. Paul Nzengu, had requested to go to another meeting. Let us to move to the next Order.

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Fund for nine constituencies in Bungoma County for Financial Years 2013/2014, 2014/2015 and 2015/2016, laid on the Table of the House on Thursday, 7th March

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Hon. Members, upon the request of the Member, this particular Motion is deferred.

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Hon. Members, we will defer the Motion.

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Hon. Members, the Motion is deferred.

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Hon. Members, upon the request of the Mover, this particular Motion is deferred.

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Hon. Members, the Motion is deferred.

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Hon. Members, the Motion is deferred.

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Hon. Members, the Motion is deferred.

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Hon. Members, this particular Bill is deferred.

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Hon. Members, there being no other business, and the time being