Senate · Afternoon Sitting

Clerk, do we have quorum? Kindly, proceed to call the first Order.

[(The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted the Speaker)]

Hon. Senators, kindly, take your seats. Hon. Senators, as you may recall, on 28th March, 2023, I issued guidelines for processing of Questions filed pursuant to Standing Order No.51 (A) . These guidelines were issued subsequent to amendments to the Standing Orders made on 23rd March,

filed not later than Monday preceding the week, which the Cabinet Secretary is to appear before the Senate. This measure will facilitate adequate time for a Cabinet Secretary to prepare for all Questions that have a bearing on the Ministry to be addressed and replied to in the Senate. It will also reduce the number of times a Cabinet Secretary will be required to appear before the Senate, should …

[(Applause)]

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I thank you for your Communication. I want to react to something that you have said in the Communication for emphasis sake and ease of operability, especially with our colleague Senators. Mr. Speaker, Sir, you have mentioned the re-arrangement of the process through which we get Cabinet Secretaries to appear before this House. It will serve colleague Senators well to note that …

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, for this Communication.

Very well. Hon. Senators, I have a further Communication to make.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I take this chance to welcome the delegation. This is the Upper House. As you can see, we have different Senators representing their counties. It is good to note that this is one of the Houses that is strong in ensuring that devolution is protected. So, you are in the right place for benchmarking. Karibu Sana.

Clerk, proceed to the next Order.

On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir.

Sen. Kinyua, you cannot rise on a point of order at this juncture. You know what the Standing Orders provide as far as standing on a point of order. You can only stand on a point of order if another Senator is on the Floor.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I put my intervention when Sen. Cheruiyot was speaking but you did not pick it. It is concerning the--- The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) : Then, I am afraid, if it did not catch my eye then, you cannot proceed now.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, you tell us that we should not shout but put--- When I talk, you say I am not following the correct procedure---

Mr. Speaker, Sir, you tell us that we should not shout but put--- When I talk, you say I am not following the correct procedure---

We are long past that stage.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, it is concerning tomorrow.

Kindly, just take your seat. Please, let us stick to our rules and Standing Orders. Next Order.

As you are aware, under Article 119 one of the Constitution, and I quote- “Every person has a right to petition Parliament to consider any matter within its authority, including enacting, amending, or repealing any legislation.” The salient issues raised in the Petition are as follows- THAT, the Football Kenya Federation (FKF) is a registered national sports organization, and since the year 2018,…

As you are aware, under Article 119 one of the Constitution, and I quote- “Every person has a right to petition Parliament to consider any matter within its authority, including enacting, amending, or repealing any legislation.” The salient issues raised in the Petition are as follows- THAT, the Football Kenya Federation (FKF) is a registered national sports organization, and since the year 2018,…

Welfare for its consideration. In terms of Standing Order 238 (2), the Committee is required in not more than 60 calendar days from the time of reading this prayer to respond to the Petitioner by way of a report addressed to the Petitioner and laid on the Table of the Senate. It is so directed. Hon. Senators, there is another Petition that I will proceed to read it out.

The Senate Majority Leader, please, proceed.

The Senate Majority Leader, please, proceed.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table of the Senate today, 20th June, 2023 – The Crops (Miraa) Regulations, Legal Notice. No.41 of 2023.

[(Sen. Cheruiyot laid the document on the Table)]

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I beg to lay the following Paper on the Table of the Senate, today, 20th June, 2023: Report of the Standing Committee on Education on the Kenyan Sign Language Bill (Senate Bill No. 9 of 2023) .

[(Sen. Tobiko laid the document on the Table)]

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I beg to lay the following Paper on the Table of the Senate, today, 20th June, 2023: Report of the Standing Committee on Education on the Kenyan Sign Language Bill (Senate Bill No. 9 of 2023) .

[(Sen. Tobiko laid the document on the Table)]

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I beg to lay the following Paper on the Table of the Senate, today, 20th June, 2023 – Report of the Standing Committee on Information, Communication and Technology on the Konza Technopolis Bill 2023 of the Senate Bill No.2 of 2023.

Next Order.

Next Order.

Sen. (Prof.) Tom Ojienda Odhiambo, SC is not in the Chamber. That Statement is dropped. Sen. (Prof.) Tom Ojienda Odhiambo, SC, has two more Statements and they are equally dropped.

[(Statement dropped)]

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I rise pursuant to Standing Order No.53 (1) to seek a Statement from the Standing Committee on National Security, Defence and Foreign Relations regarding the inappropriate conduct of police officers while on a crackdown on illegal brews in Bungoma County. In the Statement, the Committee should -

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I rise pursuant to Standing Order No.53 (1) to seek a Statement from the Standing Committee on National Security, Defence and Foreign Relations regarding the inappropriate conduct of police officers while on a crackdown on illegal brews in Bungoma County. In the Statement, the Committee should -

I will allow only four comments. Two from the Majority side and two from the Minority side. Sen. Cheruiyot, please, proceed.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, this is a very interesting Statement. One may wonder why my good friend, Sen. Wakoli, will bring a dispute that happened in Chwele Market involving what others will simply dismiss as boda boda people and village drunks. Mr. Speaker, Sir, this is the beauty of our Constitution. Everybody is equal under the law. In this House, we represent professors, doctors, engineers and any p…

business in their normal way instead of providing security and ensuring crime levels go down. Last week, police officers went around Luanda Market and arrested women who were doing their businesses peacefully in the name of looking for brews. Police officers need to style up and focus on doing their job, which is to provide security to our people. The level of insecurity in my County has gone up …

business in their normal way instead of providing security and ensuring crime levels go down. Last week, police officers went around Luanda Market and arrested women who were doing their businesses peacefully in the name of looking for brews. Police officers need to style up and focus on doing their job, which is to provide security to our people. The level of insecurity in my County has gone up …

Nikiwa papo hapo, ningependa kuongelea jambo ambalo ulisema ya kwamba utataja wakati Senate Business Committee (SBC) watakapoketi. Niliangalia vikao vya kesho asubuhi; nilikuwa na maswali ambayo nilikuwa nimeuliza Waziri wa Usalama, Prof. Kindiki; swali nambari 11 na 12. Hayo maswali yamekuwa yakiahirishwa kila wakati kwa sababu Waziri amekuwa hapatikani ata ijapokuwa katika taarifa yako ulisema w…

Asante, Bw. Spika. Namshukuru

We have expended the 15 minutes allowable under Standing Order No. 53 (3) (a) and, therefore, we will move to the next Statement. Sen. Chute.

Asante, Bw. Spika. Namshukuru

We have expended the 15 minutes allowable under Standing Order No. 53 (3) (a) and, therefore, we will move to the next Statement. Sen. Chute.

Next Statement is by Sen. Kisang’. He is not present. The Statement is dropped. Next Order. consulted with the Clerk-at-the-Table)

[(The Speaker (Hon. Kingi)]

[(Sen. Kisang’ walked to the Dispatch Box)]

Sen. Kisang’, you will have your time. I am consulting with the Clerk to read your Statement. You are very lucky.

[(Laughter)]

I am Sorry, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I rise pursuant to Standing Order No. 53 (1) to seek a Statement from the Standing Committee on Land, Environment and Natural Resources regarding the contributions in lieu of rates paid by the National Treasury to the Counties. In the Statement, the Committee should -

Next Order, Clerk.

Serjeant-at-Arms, ring the Division Bell for five minutes.

[(The Division Bell was rung)]

[(Laughter)]

[(Loud Consultations)]

Voting shall be done electronically. Therefore, I ask you at this juncture to pull out your cards and log out totally. Serjeant-At-Arms, kindly collect all the remaining unattended cards in the units. Just pull them out.

[(Sen. Chesang walked in the Chamber)]

Senators, having logged in, kindly proceed to vote either ‘yes’, ‘no’, or abstain. Kindly proceed. Hon. Senators, as you are voting, remember you are still in Plenary. Sen. Methu, desist from shouting across the Floor of the House.

[(Laughter)]

[(Loud Consultations)]

Senators, having logged in, kindly proceed to vote either ‘yes’, ‘no’, or abstain. Kindly proceed. Hon. Senators, as you are voting, remember you are still in Plenary. Sen. Methu, desist from shouting across the Floor of the House.

[(Laughter)]

Sen. Abass, proceed to the Dispatch Box.

[(Sen. Abass spoke off record)]

Kiambu County; Sen. Wafula, Bungoma County; Sen. Wakili Sigei, Bomet County and, Sen. Wambua; Kitui County.

[(Laughter)]

Kiambu County; Sen. Wafula, Bungoma County; Sen. Wakili Sigei, Bomet County and, Sen. Wambua; Kitui County.

[[The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) left the Chair]]

Serjeant-at-Arms, you may open the Doors and draw the Bar. Next order.

[(The Doors were opened and the Bars drawn)]

Hon. Members, resume your seats. Order Members, let us resume our seats. Sen. Maanzo, Sen. Munyi Mundigi and your friend, kindly take your seats. Members, let us be orderly. We want to proceed to Division. Senate Minority Leader, kindly take your seat. Hon. Members, we are now dealing with The Preservation of Human Dignity and Enforcement of Economic and Social Rights Bill (Senate Bills No. 7 of …

Mr. Temporary Chairperson, I

You may proceed to vote once the Question is displayed on the screen. Senators, please vote.

proceeded to vote by County Delegations) AYES: Sen. Abass, Wajir County; Sen. Cherarkey, Nandi County; Sen. Cheruiyot, Kericho County; Sen. Chesang, Trans Nzoia County; Sen. Dullo, Isiolo County; Sen. Faki, Mombasa County; Sen. Gataya Mo Fire, Tharaka Nithi County; Sen. Githuku, Lamu County; Sen. Joe Nyutu, Murang’a County; Sen. Kavindu Muthama, Machakos County; Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, Kakamega Count…

Mr. Temporary Chairperson, Sir, I beg to move that the Committee do report to the Senate its consideration of the Preservation of Human Dignity and Enforcement of Economic and Social Rights Bill (Senate Bills No. 7/2022) and its approval thereof with amendments. (Question Proposed) (Question put and agreed to) The Temporary Chairperson (

I now call upon Sen. Okenyuri, the Mover of the Motion standing in on behalf of Sen. Mungatana MGH.

I call upon the Mover.

Madam Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the Preservation of Human Dignity and Enforcement of Economic and Social Rights Bill (Senate Bills No. 7of 2022) be now read a Third Time.

Who is seconding that Bill?

I call upon Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale to second.

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, you may Second. The Senate Majority Whip (Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale) : Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker, I second the Bill as moved.

[(Question proposed)]

Let us move into Division. Serjeant-at-Arms, can you please ring the bell for three minutes for those who have walked out to come back.

Who is seconding that Bill?

I call upon Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale to second.

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, you may Second. The Senate Majority Whip (

Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker, I second the Bill as moved. (Question proposed)

Sen. Kibwana has now an opportunity to reply. You have 15 minutes.

Wafula, Bungoma County; Sen. Wakili Sigei, Bomet County and, Sen. Wambua; Kitui County.

Hon, Senators, the results of the Division are as follows–

Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. Pursuant to Standing Order No.71, I rise to withdraw the Motion appearing No.19 on the Order Paper. Thank you.

Hon. Senators, the Motion is withdrawn. Next Order. Hon. Senators, we have reorganised the Order Paper. I request the Clerk to call out the Next Order; Order No.11.

[(Motion withdrawn)]

Hon. Members, pursuant to Standing Order No.84 (1) , I hereby make a determination that this matter does not affect counties. Next Order. Sen. Kavindu Muthama, please, approach the Chair.

[(Question put and agreed to)]

[(Sen. Kavindu Muthama approached the Chair)]

casualties resulted from the collapse of adjacent buildings located within a two to three block radius, and with reverberations being felt in most parts of Nairobi that resulted in 213 Kenyans and 12 Americans killed and over 5000 citizens of both countries being seriously injured; NOTING THAT, US Allies, including Kenya, have endured the great burden of death, and long-term and in many instances …

Sen. Kavindu Muthama, you may proceed.

Other than agriculture, I am also impressed that this Bill cures the issue of livestock farmers. When you go out in our counties, livestock farmers are on their own. Long time ago, livestock farmers occasionally took their cattle for cleaning. It was a very important occasion because the diseases that animals passed from one to the other would be cured. However, we do not see that in the counties.…

Thank you Madam Temporary Speaker for giving me an opportunity to contribute to this particular Bill on the formulation of the agricultural extension officers’ services. I do not want to repeat what most of my colleagues have spoken about. In Kenya, we always overstress the reliance of our economy on agriculture. Thirty three (33) per cent of our Gross Domestic Product (GDP) is a contribution fro…

Next Order!

The Cotonou Agreement is a treaty between the European Union and the African Caribbean Pacific Group of States. It was signed in Cotonou, Benin, by 78 OACPS countries. Just for the information of the House, the OACPS-EU Joint Parliamentary formerly referred to as ACP-EU is one of the organs of joint institutions established under the Cotonou Agreement. The OACPS-EU Parliamentary comprise of more …

and Maritime Affairs and the establishment of the Kenya Coast Guard Service to deal with the issues of maritime security. It was noted that Parliamentary diplomacy is an important aspect of the work of the House, which assists the country in fulfilling the international obligations and enhancing Parliament’s role in international relations. During OACPS programs in Maputo, several important issue…

I realized that the same beans that were being sold at Tseikuru at Kshs30 per kilogramme, somebody transports them to Nairobi, perhaps just cleans them up and puts them in an expensive package relatively, and sells them at a supermarket at Kshs240. Essentially, that was eight times what they bought them from the market. The same research findings show that, in fact, green grams across Africa are …

Madam Temporary Speaker, I just want to say that the resolutions of the meeting about maritime laws, security, food sustainability, social welfare, cultural life, the economic value of avoiding money laundering and by extension ensuring that there is peace and tranquility across the Caribbean, African and Europe is what makes this association valuable and palatable to the Republic of Kenya. Theref…

[(Question proposed)]

[(Question put and agreed to)]

Next Order!

Madam Temporary Speaker, the Clerk-at-the-Table is reminding me that I have one hour, but when I look at the clock, I have a few minutes. So, I will do my bit now then we will do the rest in the next sitting. Madam Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the Mung Beans Bill, 2022, be now read a Second Time. Before I go to the content of the Bill, I want to draw the attention of the Senate to Part I…

I realized that the same beans that were being sold at Tseikuru at Kshs30 per kilogramme, somebody transports them to Nairobi, perhaps just cleans them up and puts them in an expensive package relatively, and sells them at a supermarket at Kshs240. Essentially, that was eight times what they bought them from the market. The same research findings show that, in fact, green grams across Africa are …

Mung beans is listed as having the highest nutritional content compared to even the common beans we consume in this country. With a properly regulated mung beans industry, the import of this Bill is to ensure that both the national and county governments buy and package for use, mung beans in the school feeding programmes and for our military as well. That alone will enable us do a number of thing…

Sen. Wambua, sorry, we have to pause your debate. You will have 40 minutes to complete your debate.