National Assembly · Afternoon Sitting

Hon. Members, I wish to welcome you back to the House after the just concluded recess. I am aware that the recess period was very busy for most committees, given the great amount of time that had to be invested in considering scheduled business. The business included the Supplementary Estimates II for the Financial Year 2023/2024; consideration of the Estimates for the Financial Year 2024/2025, in…

attendant Budget-related Bills, including the Appropriation Bill, 2024, the Supplementary Appropriation Bill, 2024, and the Finance Bill, 2024. Further, the House is scheduled to consider the County Allocation of Revenue Bill, 2024 upon receipt from the Senate. In addition, Hon. Members, the Cabinet Secretary for the National Treasury will make a public pronouncement of the Budget policy highligh…

Hon. Members, take your seats. Take the nearest seats. Hon. Farah Maalim, take the nearest seat. Hon. Jared Okello, what is your idea of the nearest seat?

[(Hon. Farah Maalim stood in the Gangways)]

[(Hon. Jared Okello walked into the Chamber)]

[(Laughter)]

Hon. Members, Standing Order 41 provides that if a Message is received from the Senate when the House is not in session, the Speaker shall forthwith cause the message to be transmitted to all Members and report to the House on the day when the House next sits. In this regard, I wish to report to the House that during the recess, I received three Messages from the Senate. The First Message, dated …

[(Laughter)]

110(4) of the Constitution. The House is, therefore, required to consider the Senate amendments to the Bill. In this regard, I direct the Clerk to circulate the schedule of the Senate Amendments to this

Leader of the Majority Party.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Before I lay the Papers, allow me to welcome back all Members after the working recess they had. As you said in your Communication, they are much energised to continue with very important businesses before the House in this Second Session. Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following papers on the Table:

Thank you, Leader of the Majority Party. The Chairperson, Budget and Appropriation Committee.

Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Papers: Reports of the Budget and Appropriations Committee on its consideration of:

Chairperson, Departmental Committee on Trade, Industry and Co- operatives. Is that Hon. Gakuya? Who is the Vice-Chair? Hon. Marianne, do you have a brief from your Chairman?

I do.

Go ahead.

Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Paper on the Table: The Report of the Departmental Committee on Trade, Industry and Co-operatives on its inquiry into the illegal and irregular release of condemned sugar.

Thank you. The Chairperson Public Debt and Privatisation Committee. Hon. Shurie, is that you?

Yes. Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Paper on the….

[(Hon. Abdi Shurie referred to his phone)]

You want to lay your phone on the Table?

[(Laughter)]

I am well guided. Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Paper on the Table: Report of the Public Debt and Privatisation Committee on its consideration of the Consolidated Fund Services for the Supplementary Estimates II for the Financial Year 2023/2024, and the Budget Estimates for Financial Year 2024/2025. Thank you, Hon. Speaker.

Thank you. Next Order.

Hon. Speaker, I beg to give notices of the following Motions: That this House adopts the Report Budget and Appropriation Committee...

Order, Hon. Ndindi. Each Motion stands on its own. You cannot give notice of Motions.

I am well guided. Hon. Speaker, I beg to give notice of the following Motion: THAT, this House adopts the Report of the Budget and Appropriations

The Chairperson, Mediation Committee. That is, you, as well.

Hon. Speaker, I beg to give notice of the following Motion: THAT, pursuant to the provision of Article 113 (2) of the Constitution and Standing Orders 153, that this House adopts the Report of the Mediation Committee on the Division of Revenue Bill, (National Assembly Bill No.14/2024) laid on the table of the House on Tuesday, 4th June 2024, and approves the mediated version of the Division of Re…

The Chairperson Departmental Committee on Trade, Industry and Cooperatives.

Hon. Speaker, I beg to give notice of the following Motion: THAT, this House adopts the Report of the Departmental Committee on Trade, Industry and Co-operatives on its inquiry into the illegal and irregular release of condemned sugar, laid on the Table of the House on Tuesday, 4th June 2024. I, thank you, Hon. Speaker.

The Chairperson, Public Debts and Privatisation Committee.

Hon. Speaker, I beg to give notice of the following Motion: THAT, this House adopts the Report of the Public Debt and Privatisation

Next Order. Before we call out the first Statement, allow me to acknowledge the following institutions in our galleries. In the Speaker’s Gallery, we have:

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I stand here as the Nairobi County Women Representative to welcome all the visitors here and especially my girls from Huruma Girls’ Secondary School, who are accompanied by their teachers, Mr Peter Mbathi,

Mr N. Gichohi and Mr Kevin Mutueni. We have 170 girls that have accompanied the teachers from the History Class. The school was founded in 1964 and so this year, we both share a birthday for turning 60 years old. The school was founded by the Sisters of Mercy to help the needy children and it currently accommodates 1,400 students and their performance is very good. I also want to acknowledge that…

Hon. Gitonga Murugara.

Thank you very much Hon. Speaker for giving me this opportunity to speak on behalf of my colleague from Maara Constituency, Hon. Kareke Mbiuki, who is not here now. As a leader from Tharaka Nithi County, allow me to welcome Chogoria Boys’ High School who are seated in the Hon. Speaker’s Gallery and the rest of the schools who have come to observe the proceedings this afternoon. I want to remark to…

Yes. The Hon. Leader of the Minority Party.

Thank you very much Hon. Speaker for your indulgence. I join my two colleagues, Hon. Murugara and Hon. Esther Passaris, in welcoming the students who are seated at the galleries. Hon. Speaker, having said that, I want to equally seek your indulgence and I am trying to look around to see if the Chair of the Departmental Committee on Education is around. Neither can I see Hon. Melly nor the Vice-Cha…

statements, Hon. Speaker, if you agree with me. It is a matter that will require immediate clarification from the Chair of the Departmental Committee on Education and, if possible, it will require an intervention or a position being taken by the whole House, so that this issue is addressed at the earliest possible opportunity Hon. Speaker. Thank you.

Hon. Melly, you were not here. Look at The Hansard and respond to that tomorrow morning. You can find the details of the concerns of the Hon. Leader of the Minority Party in the Hansard and then tomorrow morning, the Deputy Speaker will give you an opportunity to respond. Next Order.

Now we go a response to a statement request by Hon. Mohamed Adow, MP Wajir South. Chairman, Departmental Committee on Environment, Forestry and Mining. Who is the Chairman? Is that Hon. Gikaria. Hon. Owen Baya, who is the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Environment, Forestry and Mining?

Hon. Gikaria Sir.

Where is he?

Probably, he is still stuck in Nakuru, but will be obliged by you to do what you want us to do.

Is Hon. Mohamed Adow in the House? Yes, Major Bashir.

Hon. Speaker, thank you very much. I stand in for Hon. Mohamed Adow. I have his consent on the matter and I am shocked that the Statement is not yet ready. Remember that matter is of immense concern to the residents of Northern Kenya and the matter was about the toxic waste that has been dumped in parts of Northern Kenya. I am shocked that the statement is not available. So, I would rather request…

Hon. Owen Baya, you inform Hon. Gikaria to bring the Statement on Tuesday afternoon. Next, Chairperson, Departmental Committee on Transport and Infrastructure. Hon. GK. Is he here? Yes, Hon. Member for Gichugu. Is it Gichugu or Ndia?

Ndia! Yes. Hon. Speaker, sorry I got a bit distracted by my neighbour. I have three Statements. Hon. Speaker, I rise to give the following Statement in response to the statement requested by Hon. Yakub Adow, MP. Hon. Speaker, on Tuesday, 16th…

Is the Member here? Hon. Yakub Adow? Is Hon. Yakub Adow here? If he is not here, go to the second one.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I rise to make the following Statement in response to the request by Hon. (Eng.) Paul Nzengu.

Is Hon. Paul Nzengu here? Yes, go ahead.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. On Thursday, 18th April 2024, the Member for Mwingi North, Hon. (Eng.) Paul Nzengu requested for a Statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Transport and Infrastructure regarding the current state of allocation to roads maintenance under Kenya Rural Roads Authority (KeRRA) development fund for April to June this year. Hon. Nzengu specifically request…

Thank you. Hon. Nzengu, you have listened to the Statement.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Yes, indeed, I have listened to the Statement and I was served with an advance copy, but I am not satisfied with it. My question was based on a specific budget of Ksh3.58 billion that was unfairly and inequitably distributed. Certain counties had received zero funding while other counties got Ksh280 million plus. I gave the officers in the Table Office all the details, but…

[(Loud consultations)]

Order, Hon. Members. The conversations are too loud. Those Members holding a mini kamukunji, take your seats. Hon. Wamuchomba and Hon. Kiborek, take your seats. Go on, Hon. Nzengu.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. When I was invited to the Committee by the Chairman, people from the Ministry tried to imply that the list I had, had been approved by Parliament. Members of the Committee also agreed with me that certain things are being done under cover and they were not aware. What I am asking is that you direct that this matter be investigated by the Committee and instruct that before …

Hon. Nzengu, you listened to the response to your request for statement. What is expected of you is to seek clarifications on matters that are not clear. You are now engaging in debate and it is not right.

Hon. Speaker, I was just clarifying that I gave the Table Office a big document out of which they produced a tiny document. I also submitted to the Ministry officials, through the Chairman of the Departmental Committee on

Transport and Infrastructure, that the information they were giving was contrary to what was available. So, I ask that you direct the Chairman to do an inquiry. No one knows how the 10 per cent that is left to the Cabinet Secretary for allocation is spent. It is at the discretion of whoever is in that office. No one also knows how the Appropriations-in-Aid money is spent. Money goes to certain pla…

Hon. Lelmengit, did you want to speak to this? Hon. GK, you have the protestations of the Member.

[(Hon. Josses Lelmengit spoke off the record)]

Hon. Speaker, I have heard the sentiments raised by the Hon. Member. If he wishes to visit the Committee again and seek further clarification, we are happy to welcome him. Thank you, Hon. Speaker.

Okay. Next Statement.

Hon. Speaker, I rise to read the following Statement in response to concerns raised by Hon. Members of this House regarding 32 per cent fuel levy. Today mid-morning, we had a meeting with the Principal Secretary for Roads, Engineer Joseph Mbugua. We asked him to clarify the matter. The following is his Statement. Following reduced fuel levy consumption for the Financial Year 2023/2024, the fuel l…

Members, you were all up in arms when this issue was raised and now nobody seems to pay attention. We will move on. Hon. Mwago.

Hon. Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request for a statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Roads and Transport regarding the development of Mass Rapid Transit Corridors in the Nairobi Metropolitan Area (NMA) and the role of the Nairobi Metropolitan Area Transport Authority (NaMATA) . NaMATA was established vide the Nairobi Metro…

Order, Hon. Ruku. I only gave you an opportunity to request for one statement. You know you have already written to me about the other issue. I have also received several requests on the same. Hon. Melly, you have two minutes. However, the Leader of the Minority Party, who raised the issue, is gone. So, you had better do it when he is in the House tomorrow. Chairperson of Departmental Committee …

In two to three weeks’ time.

Two weeks is agreed. Next Order.

Hon. Members, take your seats. Hon. Bowen and Hon. DK, please; take your seats.

[(Question put and agreed to)]

THAT, the National Disaster Risk Management Bill, (National Assembly Bill No.24 of 2023) , be now read a Third Time. I request Hon. Owen Baya to second.

Hon. Speaker, I would like to second this important Bill. Parliament diligently engaged with all stakeholders to discuss and develop this legislation. This legislation not only delves into how we handle disasters, but also how we manage the risks associated with disasters. I thank all the Members who have contributed to it. As the Senate takes over the consideration of the Bill, I hope they will …

[(Hon. Rahim Dawood stood up in his place)]

Order, Hon. Dawood. Take your seat.

[(Question proposed)]

Put the Question!

I confirm that we have quorum in the House.

[(Question put and agreed to)]

[(The Bill was accordingly read a Third Time and passed)]

Next Order. First Reading

Thank you. Next Order.

Chairperson to report to the House.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to report that the Committee of the whole House has considered the Kenya Drugs Authority Bill, (National Assembly Bill No. 54 of 2022) up to Clause 54, and approved the same with amendments and seeks leave to sit again.

Mover.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said report. I also request Hon. Owen Baya to second the Motion for agreement with the report of the Committee of the whole House.

Hon. Owen Baya.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I second.

[(Question proposed)]

For the convenience of the House, the question on the matter will be put next time the House sits to transact this business.

[(Putting of the Question deferred)]