National Assembly · Afternoon Sitting

The forum brings together the House leadership, all Chairpersons and Vice- Chairpersons of Committees and the representatives of the business community under the umbrella of KEPSA. In this regard, I wish to inform the House of the event and extend an invitation to the House leadership, all Chairpersons and Vice-Chairpersons of Committees and selected Members of the Departmental Committee on Financ…

Hon. Members, allow me to recognise and introduce to you a visiting delegation from the National Assembly of the Republic of Namibia seated at the Speaker's Row. The delegation comprises the following seven Members of the Parliamentary Committee on Urban and Rural Development and Land Reform:

Hon. Members, the next Communication is to inform the House on the election of Hon. (Dr) Beatrice Adagala as the Vice-Chairperson of the Commonwealth Parliamentary Association (CPA) Africa Region Executive Committee and Sen. Tabitha Mutinda as a Board Member of the Parliamentary Network on the World Bank and International Monetary Fund (IMF) . Hon. Members, I wish to inform the House that I am in…

year covering 2025-2026 term. This is a significant milestone not only for Hon. (Dr) Adagala personally, but also for our Parliament as it underscores the recognition and confidence placed in our institution within the wider Commonwealth Parliamentary Community. Accordingly, this Communication serves to formally apprise the House of Hon. (Dr) Adagala's elevation to this important and prestigious p…

Hon. Members at the Bar, take the nearest seats. Thank you.

Hon. Members, Article 119 of the Constitution accords any person the right to petition Parliament to consider any matters within its authority. Further, Standing Order 225 (2) (b) requires the Speaker to report to the House any petition other than those presented by a Member. Section 34 of the Forest Conservation and Management Act 2016 Cap 385, provides for the revocation of the registration of …

The Ministry reports that the findings of the Inter-Ministerial Committee reveal that the areas under claim are currently inhabited by persons engaged in non-forestry activities and who have resided in those areas for prolonged periods. The Ministry further informs the House that following a review of the Committee's Report, the Kenya Forest Service Board, in writing, did recommend the regularisa…

Hon. Speaker, thank you for giving me this chance. I congratulate and thank the Cabinet Secretary for Environment and Forestry for bringing this Petition to the House for the matter concerning the various forests that are being degazetted. You will notice that some of them came into use as early as 1964, 1974 and others in 1988. Specifically, I want to speak on the Shiru/Shaviringa Settlement Sch…

Petitions Committee should also quickly execute the degazettement of South Nandi Forest (Chepkumia Block). It is true that the Petition was brought to the House earlier and by now, they should have executed it so that the title deeds can be given out. Hon. Speaker, without much ado, I thank the Cabinet Secretary for that. I ask this House to quickly expedite this matter, because those are members…

Yes, Hon. Lelmengit. Take a minute or, at least, two minutes.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker for giving me this chance. First, I thank the Ministry of Environment and Forestry for expediting this process of the de-gazettement of the land exchange programmes. I also thank the Public Petitions Committee for visiting the sites in Chepkumia. One of the areas that is affected by that land exchange programme is Chepkumia in Emgwen Constituency in Nandi County. This has …

Who is that? Hon. Kitayama Marwa. Sikuoni vizuri. Take two minutes. Mhe. Maisori Kemero : Ahsante, Mhe. Spika. Nakushukuru na vilevile nashukuru Serikali, kwa hatua ambayo imechukua. Lakini inashangaza na inasikitisha sana kwamba wakati ambapo tunafanya jambo nzuri kwa upande fulani wa nchi, upande mwingine wa nchi una shida. Wakati ambapo sehemu ya Macalder walileta petition katika Public Petiti…

[(Kuria East, UDA)]

Order, Hon. Kitayama. Kama hilo jambo liko mbele ya Kamati, haukubaliwi na Standing Orders kuli-discuss saa hizi. You are anticipating debate.

Mhe. Spika, wao pia walijua hivyo lakini wakaendelea kuvunja sheria hiyo.

You will say all those good things you are saying when the report from the Public Petitions Committee is filed and open to debate. Mhe. Maisori Kemero : Ahsante, Mhe. Spika. Mhe. Speaker: Nashukuru sana. Mama Adagala.

[(Kuria East, UDA)]

Thank you, Hon. Speaker for giving me this opportunity. I thank Members for congratulating me for having been elected as the Vice-Chairperson of the Commonwealth Parliamentary Association (CPA), Africa Region.

I echo the sentiments that have been expressed on the Petition that is going on about the degazettement and also, on ensuring that the people of Shiru and Shaviringa, the people who migrated from Mbale and paved way for the County Headquarters to be constructed, and the people of Vokoli who were moved to those sides of Shaviringa, are sorted out. I thank the Ministry for bringing this Petition in …

Next Order!

Deputy Leader of the Majority Party.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. It is good to be back after the short recess. I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table: Reports of the Auditor-General and the Financial Statements for the year ended 30th June 2025, and the certificates therein respect of:

Thank you. Chairperson, Departmental Committee on Labour? Hon. Owen, who is your Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Labour? Yes, Hon. Chonga.

Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Paper on the Table: Report of the Departmental Committee on Labour on Approval Hearing of Hon. (Eng) Michael Thoya Kingi for the appointment as a member of the Salaries and Remuneration Commission (SRC) . Thank you, Hon. Speaker.

Next Order.

Hon. Speaker, I beg to give notice of the following Motion: THAT, taking into consideration the findings of the Departmental

Thank you, Hon. Chonga. Next Order.

Hon. Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request for a statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Education regarding exclusion of Form IV students from school for unpaid school fees. Hon. Speaker, the continued exclusion of Form IV students, who started examinations yesterday from schools for unpaid tuition fees poses a significant ch…

Hon. Chairperson, Departmental Committee on Education. Yes, Hon. Wangari.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker, for indulging me before the Hon. Chairperson as I also support Hon. Jayne Kihara. We had canvassed this matter before we went on recess when we were discussing the issue of capitation. The matter of sending students home was raised on the Floor of the House and it is something that needs clarification. I say that because the Cabinet Secretary is meant to appear before thi…

The Cabinet Secretary will be here tomorrow at 3.00 p.m.

Yes. So, my point is that the Cabinet Secretary, through the leadership of the House, should tell this House if the directives and circulars they issue to the schools count for anything. That is because there was a circular on the time of attending classes; another one that said students should not be sent home; and another one of teachers not allowed to withhold certificates in school. But they a…

we expect that when the Cabinet Secretary comes tomorrow, those are the issues that he should also refer to, so that he can brief this House if they are just mere papers, public relations or management of Member and students.

Hon. Owen Baya, notify the Cabinet Secretary on those additional concerns for tomorrow. I do not see the Hon. Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Education. Any Member from the Committee? Yes, Hon. Gisairo! In two weeks. Please tell your Chairperson. Hon. Bernard Kitur.

[(Hon. Clive Gisairo spoke off the record)]

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request for a statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning regarding the operations of multi-national payment and services - Mastercard Incorporated and Visa Incorporated in the country. Hon. Speaker, the National Payment System Act, Cap 491A, provides the …

Thank you. Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning? Any Member from the Committee? Hon. Own Baya, inform the Chairperson of the Committee that they have two weeks to give a response.

Obliged, Hon. Speaker.

Hon. Joyce Kamene.

Hon. Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I wish to request for a statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Trade, Industry and Co-operatives regarding the status of Matungulu Farmers Company Limited, which is in Muthesya, Masinga Sub-County. Matungulu Farmers Company Limited was established as a land-buying public company with 114 members and a…

Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Trade, Industry and Co-operatives? Hon. Marianne Kitany, can you bring a response in two weeks?

Yes, Hon. Speaker.

Hon. Adhe Wario, Member of Parliament for North Horr? He seems not to be in. His request for statement is dropped. Hon. Karemba, I allowed you to request for a statement. Please proceed.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. The Member for Marsabit County, Hon. Naomi Waqo, requested for a statement on the disappearance of Mr Galgallo Bagaja Malicha. She wanted to know the following:

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I also thank the Chairperson of the Committee for the response from the Ministry that he has just read out. Unfortunately, the response is not satisfactory at all. Since the request for a statement was

issued, two or three other people have been abducted. Sololo Town is too small for the Cabinet Secretary to say that the Ministry has been unable to trace the vehicle involved in the abduction and the abductors. I plead with the Ministry to continue investigating the matter and to give it proper attention. Thank you, Hon. Speaker.

Hon. Tongoyo.

Hon. Speaker, as I indicated in the Statement, we will keep giving the family regular updates whenever we get them.

Hon. Tongoyo, is Professor Guyo Jaldesa’s Statement ready?

Yes, it is, Hon. Speaker. I request your indulgence because the Statement had been sought before we broke for recess and I responded to it. The Member indicated that he would prefer that the Committee visits the area on a fact- finding mission. We had prioritised the issue. We have just reported back today. We are planning for the Committee to visit the area on a fact-finding mission.

Did the Member appear before the Committee?

We had spoken to him.

Okay. Professor Jaldesa, is that sufficient?

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. The Chairperson of the Committee is a bit confused. When we talked, we agreed that the Committee should visit the area to verify matters for themselves. I also shared with the Chairperson of the Committee some photographs of the act of arson by the police. The Committee members should visit the site so that they can know what happened.

To cut a long story short, Professor, do you want them to visit the site?

Exactly.

Engage with them and after they visit, they will bring a comprehensive statement.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker.

Next Order.

Hon. Gichimu. Order Hon. Millie. Hon. Gichimu go on.

[(Hon. Millie Mabona-Odhiambo sang)]

Hon. Speaker, I beg to move the following Motion: THAT, this House adopts the Report of the Committee on Delegated Legislation on its consideration of ten (10) sets of Regulations relating to the Petroleum Sector, laid on the Table of the House on Thursday, 16th October 2025 and, pursuant to the provisions of section 18 of the Statutory Instruments Act, Cap 2A and Standing Order 210 (4) (b) , ann…

[[The Speaker (Hon. Moses Wetang’ula) left the Chair] [The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) took the Chair]]

Hon. Temporary Speaker, the reason is for failure to comply with the Statutory Instruments Act, CAP 2A. This is a very straightforward Motion. The only reason the Committee is seeking to have them annulled is because they offend the provisions of section 11 (1) of the Statutory Instruments Act, CAP 2A. The provision requires that the Cabinet Secretary in charge of the regulation-making authority s…

He looks surprised. Member for Kathiani, proceed.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I rise to second this Motion. When dealing with regulations, there are several considerations that the Committee on Delegated Legislation must make. First, we ensure that the regulations are constitutionally sound by checking them against the Constitution of Kenya, 2010. We also ensure that they align with the parent Act. We further check compliance with timelin…

“No person or body other than Parliament has the power to make provision having the force of law in Kenya, except under authority conferred by this Constitution or by legislation.” The Executive must understand that respect is mutual. We respect the Executive, but it must also respect this House. With those few remarks, I second.

Very well. Hon. Sunkuli.

[(Question proposed)]

Hon. Temporary Speaker, in support of this Motion, I urge the House to nullify these regulations. When they were presented before our Committee, two problems arose. First, they were already dead on arrival because they were not presented within the time required under the Statutory Instruments Act. We did not even open them for consideration. Unfortunately, it seems the Executive hoped to have the…

Very well. Hon. Members, I note that some Members have their cards inserted, but they are not in the House. Hon. Saney of Wajir North? Hon. Yusuf Hassan? Hon. Ngusya, CNN, are you willing to speak on this matter? If not, Hon. Kaguchia? Hon. Caroli?

[(Hon. Charles Nguna spoke off the record)]

Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. My contribution is not on the procedural malfeasance that has been committed here or the content of the regulations, but to pose a question. When a body that is entrusted by law to make regulations deliberately fails to submit them to this House within the statutory timelines, regulations that were not made in vain and surely had a purpose, should we si…

Hon. Owen Baya.

First, I would like to inform counsel, a very learned man, to move beyond that and amend the law instead of simply throwing them out. The law allows Parliament to follow up by taking certain steps, but as it stands, the law is that we bring them here and annul them. I think you are a good legislator who the people of Suba South voted for. Although Hon. Junet says very unpalatable words about you, …

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I want to speak to the regulations that the Committee, in its report, is proposing that this House annuls. This is very important. The reason we pass laws here with a rider that the parent Ministry will make regulations, is to give effect to the law. Ministries, Departments or Semi-Autonomous Government Agencies (SAGAs) come up with new regulations and try to sneak them beh…

Very well. Hon. CNN? You are not on this. If there is no more interest on this… Member for Tetu.

[(Hon. Geoffrey Wandeto raised his hand)]

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Some of us have been complaining about what we see as continued Executive overreach, especially Cabinet Secretaries and maybe even regulatory authorities, doing things that are clearly outside their mandate in law. This House has a duty ahead of it. I like what the Deputy Leader of the Majority Party has said that we are now awake more than ever. We must be alert…

Very well. There being no more interest on this, I call upon the Mover to reply.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. In replying, I thank Members who have contributed and supported this Motion. I would like to indicate that the law permits Parliament, through the Committee of Delegated Legislation, to annul where regulations have been submitted out of the requisite time. It also gives leeway to Parliament or any Member who wishes to amend the law to reprimand where people or re…

Very well. We defer the putting of the question until an appropriate time. Hon. Members, before we proceed to Order No.11, we shall step down (ii) and deal with (i) under Order No.11.

[(Putting of the Question deferred)]

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move that the House reports its consideration of the Pyrethrum (Repeal) Bill, (National Bill No. 40 of 2024) , and its approval thereof without amendments.

[(Question proposed)]

[(Question put and agreed to)]

[(The House resumed)]

Hon. Chairperson.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that Committee of the whole House has considered the Pyrethrum (Repeal) Bill, (National Assembly Bill No. 40 of 2024) , and approved the same without amendments.

Mover.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said report. I also request Hon. Ngogoyo to second.

Thank you. We have gone through the Bill and I support it as it is.

Hon. Ngogoyo, did you second?

Apologies. I second. We exhausted debate on the Bill and agree with the Committee of the whole House.

[(Question proposed)]

[(Putting of the question deferred)]

Next Order.

This Bill was moved by the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Health. Who was on the Floor?

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I rise under Standing Order 95…

Hold on, Hon. Baya. Hon. Fatuma had a balance of five minutes, but she is not in the House and so, we will continue. Hon. Baya, is your contribution on this Bill? Hon. Owen Baya : Yes. I request you to call upon the Mover to reply. Looking at the lapse of time, people may not even recall what this Bill is all about. Debate on the Bill was done conclusively. Now that Hon. (Dr) Nyikal is here, he …

[(Kilifi North, UDA)]

Hon. Baya, you have made your point. Mover.

[(Question, that the Mover be now called upon to reply, put and agreed to)]

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I wish to appreciate all the Members who have contributed to this Bill and all the issues they have raised. I also appreciate Senators who sponsored this Bill and the support from my Committee. This is an extremely important Bill. According to our health data, this is one of the indicators where we still need to do a lot of work in the health sector. Our materna…

Very well. We shall defer the putting of the Question.

[(Putting of the Question deferred)]

Is the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Environment, Forestry and Mining present? He is not in the House. Therefore, we shall defer that Order. Next Order.