National Assembly · Afternoon Sitting
Tuesday, 6 August 2024
The Deputy Speaker instructed that clarification on NG‑CDF appointments be sought in writing to the board rather than summoning the CEO, prompting members to argue for the CEO’s appearance and faster filling of vacant positions, especially for persons with disabilities. Hon. Benard Kitur and Hon. Robert Mbui stressed the need for clear timelines and broader representation across age, gender and disability groups, while warning against stifling debate. The exchange highlighted tensions between procedural caution and calls for greater transparency and accountability. Members debated the Division of Revenue Bill, emphasizing that the basis for allocations should be the latest approved audited financial statements rather than submitted figures. Concerns were raised about delayed and incomplete disbursement of county funds, alleged mismanagement, and the fiscal impact of the rejected Finance Bill, while some MPs expressed support for the bill and called for faster auditing and revenue collection. Members debated the Division of Revenue (Amendment) Bill, highlighting gaps in devolution where many functions and funds remain with the national government despite constitutional mandates. They called for better alignment of the budget process, stronger county revenue generation, and stricter scrutiny of how allocated funds are used, while also proposing expenditure cuts and incentives to broaden the tax base. The discussion combined criticism of current shortcomings with constructive proposals for reform.
Hon. Members, there is no quorum. I order the Quorum Bell to be rung for 10 minutes. We now have a quorum to proceed. Clerk-at-the-Table. Hon. Members, I have a few communications at Order No.2, but I will do it slightly later. Next Order.
[(The Quorum Bell was rung)]
Hon. Leader of the Majority Party.
Thank you very much, Hon. Speaker. We will defer this Order until when the Papers are ready. Then we will lay them.
Okay. The Chairperson of the Budget and Appropriations Committee has a Paper to lay. Vice-Chairperson, Departmental Committee on Environment, Forestry and Mining, Hon. Owen, where are your chairpersons? The Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs.
Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Paper on the Table: Reports of the Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs on its consideration of:
The Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Environment, Forestry and Mining. Hon. Leader of the Majority Party.
Hon. Speaker, we probably need to defer it to a later time.
You just told me you have them.
Hon. Speaker, my papers are ready.
Go ahead!
Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table:
Thank you, Hon. Owen. Is the Chairperson of the Budget and Appropriations Committee here now? What about for Environment, Forestry and Mining? Who are the Members of that Committee? Next Order.
Hon. Edith Nyenze, Member for Kitui West.
Hon. Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request for a statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Education regarding the fate of P1 Teachers who upgraded their education with the hope of being absorbed as Junior Secondary School (JSS) teachers under the Upgrade Diploma in Primary Teacher Education (UDPTE) . Approximately four years ag…
The Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Education, Hon. Melly.
Thank you, Hon. Speaker. The issues raised by the Member are very weighty and important. We will bring back a statement from the Teacher Service Commission in two weeks.
What did you say?
I said the issues she has raised are very weighty and of national importance. We shall invite the Teacher Service Commission and I will bring a comprehensive statement before the House in two weeks.
Two weeks! It is so ordered. Hon. Monica Marubu, Member for Lamu County.
Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request for a statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Lands regarding the issuance of title deeds for Hindi-Magogoni Phase II Settlement Scheme, Lamu County. The Hindi-Magogoni Settlement Scheme was established in 1978 with the objective of promoting sustainable agriculture in the …
the 16,0000 acres of land for over 40 years, they are yet to receive title deeds. More specifically, the villages of Mukowe, Belebele, Kalavuu, Sinambio, Magogoni, Kwasasi, Chomo, Mkondoni, Roka Bagdad, Roka A & B, Bobo Raha, Bobo Sunkia, Msumarini and Mvinjeni. Consequently, the scheme has been marred by land disputes and has attracted land speculators, thus leaving hundreds of families in a stat…
Chairperson, Departmental Committee on Land. Any Member of the Committee? Hon. (Dr) Nyamai, can you bring a statement in two weeks?
On behalf of the Chairperson, we will get a statement in two weeks. Thank you.
Hon. Dawood, what is it?
Hon. Speaker, I want to refer you to the Prevention of Livestock and Produce Theft Bill of 2023.
Hon. Dawood, let us finish with the request for statements first. Hon. Simon King’ara, Member for Ruiru.
Thank you, Hon. Speaker, for giving me this opportunity to request for a statement regarding the collapse of the Membley Bridge in Ruiru Constituency. Hon. Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request for a statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Transport and Infrastructure on the collapsed Membley Bridge in Ruiru Constituency. The…
Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Transport and Infrastructure. Vice-Chairperson. Give him the microphone.
Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I am not the Vice- Chairperson, but a member of the Committee. On behalf of the Chairperson who has just stepped out, and having heard the question, we will endeavour to present the response to this House and to the Member in the next two weeks.
Two weeks, it is. Thank you.
Thank you very much, Hon. Speaker.
Before you do so, remember that I have called out this Order twice when you were not in the Chamber. You, therefore, know what to do.
Thank you very, much Hon. Speaker. My apologies. I was overseeing to ensure that Members have this Report. Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Paper on the Table: Report of the Budget and Appropriations Committee on its consideration of the Division of Revenue (Amendment) Bill, (National Assembly Bill No.38 of 2024) .
Thank you. For the last time, Vice-Chairperson, Departmental Committee on Environment, Forestry and Mining. Hon. Kamuren. Go ahead.
Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I want to apologise for coming late. I was also preparing for the same. Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Paper on the Table: Report of the Departmental Committee on Environment, Forestry and Mining on its consideration of the Environmental Management and Coordination (Amendment) Bill, (National Assembly Bill No.66 of 2023) .
Thank you. Next Order.
Hon. Members on their feet, take your seats. Order, Hon. Members. Take your seats. Next Order.
[(Question put and agreed to)]
Chairperson, Select Committee on the National Government Constituencies Development Fund, Hon. Musa Sirma.
Hon. Speaker, I beg to move the following Motion: THAT, this House adopts the Report of the National Government Constituency Development Fund for four (4) Constituencies Committees laid on the Table of the House on Thursday, 1st August 2024 and, pursuant to the provisions of section 43 (4) of the National Government Constituency Development Fund Act, 2015 and paragraphs 5 (2) and (10) of the Nati…
No.
Is the Mover in the House? Hon. Waqo, can the leadership speak to that?
Is the Mover in the House?
Yes, I am. Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move the following Motion: THAT, this House adopts the Report of the Committee on Regional Integration on its consideration of the Report on the Inspection Visit to the Semi- autonomous Institutions of the East African Community in Uganda from 9th -16th September 2023, laid on the Table of the House on Wednesday, 29th November
Hon. Muhia, you will have 16 minutes when debate on this Motion resumes, so that you may complete moving and invite your seconder. Hon. Members, we may now be on our feet.
Hon. Members, the time being