National Assembly · Afternoon Sitting

Hon. Members, I have a short Communication. I wish to welcome you back to the House from the long recess. I note that the recess turned out to be a working break for most committees given the intense time that had to be invested in the consideration of the Budget Estimates for the Financial Year 2023/2024, public participation for the Finance Bill, 2023 and other Bills, the vetting of nominees pro…

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Measures to the nation from the National Assembly chamber remains an essential ceremonial event in the budget cycle of the East Africa Community partner States. In this regard, it is hereby notified that in keeping with the requirements of the Public Finance Management Act, 2012 and Standing Order 244C, the Cabinet Secretary for the National Treasury will make the annual pronouncement of the Budg…

Standing Order 42 (2) relating to Messages from the President provides: “If a message is received from the President at a time when the House is not in Session, the Speaker shall forthwith cause the Message to be transmitted to every Member and shall report the Message to the House on the day the House next sits.”

Further, you will recall that on Wednesday, 15th February 2023, the House resolved that should the Speaker receive any Message from the President, the national Executive, or the Senate during recess, the Speaker shall forthwith refer the Message to the relevant committee without recalling the House. The House also resolved that whenever the Speaker invokes this resolution, the Speaker should repor…

Members at the back, take your seats. I have other Communications to make. Yes, Hon. Mbui.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I rise under Standing Order 42 (4) on Messages from the President. Part Four talks about Messages from cabinet secretaries. Mine is about a Message you read to the House last year before we went on to the last recess. It was from the Cabinet Secretary for the National Treasury. He had indicated that he would be releasing funds for the NG-CDF and the NGAAF to a tune of abou…

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Hon. Mbui, let me finish with the Messages and then we can come back to what you are saying. Hon. Members, the second Message is from His Excellency the President and it is on nomination of persons for appointment to the Salaries and Remuneration Commission (SRC) and the Commission on Revenue Allocation (CRA) .

appointment, such nomination shall stand committed to the relevant departmental committee for consideration. In this regard, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 45 and Paragraph 3 of Standing Order 42 (Messages from the President), I hereby refer the Messages from His Excellency the President, together with the CVs, the Report of the selection panel, and other testimonials of the nominees…

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Hon. Members, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 42, I wish to convey a Message from His Excellency the President regarding nomination of persons for appointment as Principal Secretaries. In the Message, His Excellency the President conveys that in exercise of powers conferred on him by Article 132 (2) (d) of the Constitution, as read together with sections 3 and 5 of the Public Appointm…

The Leader of the Majority Party will wield more authority on this than the Chairperson of the NG-CDF.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I will beg your indulgence because I had engaged the Cabinet Secretary for the National Treasury and Economic Planning last week and he indicated they are in the process of working on both disbursements for the counties and the NG-CDF. However, to be able to give a more appropriate answer, I will beg that you give me until Thursday afternoon, or tomorrow afternoon to get t…

You can bring a Statement on the actual status on Thursday afternoon.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker.

Next Order.

Leader of the Majority Party.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Allow me to also take this opportunity to welcome back all the Members to the House after the short, but long working recess. I would also like to thank the Members because many of them were very active in committees, both departmental committees and the select committees that had an opportunity to sit. Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table:

Hon. Junet Mohamed, you seem to have been missed by your colleagues. Hon. Members, there are some Papers to be laid by the Chairperson of the Budget

and Appropriations Committee and the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning. We will stay them so that they lay them around 4.00 p.m. or 5.00 p.m. because they are still on with their committee meetings. Chairperson, Committee on Regional Integration, Hon. Wanjiku Muhia.

Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Paper on the Table: Report of the Select Committee on Regional Integration on its visit to semi-autonomous institutions of the East African Community in Arusha, Tanzania from 2nd – 8th April, 2023.

Thank you, Hon. Wanjiku Muhia. Next is the Chairperson, Departmental Committee on Defence, Intelligence and Foreign Relations, Hon. Nelson Koech.

I beg to lay the following Paper on the Table of the House: Report of the Departmental Committee on Defence, Intelligence, and Foreign Relations on its vetting of the nominee for appointment as the Director-General of the National Intelligence Service.

Next Order. Hon. Members, the first one in giving Notice of Motion is Chairperson, Committee of Budget and Appropriations. It will apply in the same manner as the laying of the Paper. When he lays the Paper, he will also give his notice. Next is Chairperson, Committee on Regional Integration, Hon. Wanjiku Muhia.

Hon. Speaker, I beg to give notice of the following Motion: THAT, this House adopts the Report of the Select Committee on Regional Integration on its visit to semi-autonomous institutions of the East African Community in Arusha, Tanzania from 2nd – 8th April, laid on the Table of the House today, Tuesday, 6th June 2023.

Thank you. Next, Chairperson, Departmental Committee on Finance and Planning. He will give the notice at the time he will lay the Paper or the Report. Next is Chairperson, Departmental Committee on Defence, Intelligence and Foreign Relations.

Hon. Speaker, I beg to give notice of the following Motion: THAT, taking into consideration the findings of the Departmental Committee on Defence, Intelligence, and Foreign Relations in its Report on the vetting of a nominee for appointment as the Director-General of the National Intelligence Service, laid on the Table of the House on Tuesday, 6th June 2023 and pursuant to Section 7 (3) (b) of th…

Thank you. Next Order.

Order, Hon. Members! Before we resume debate, Hon. Wanjiku Muhia has a short statement to make. Go ahead Hon. Wanjiku.

Thank you Hon. Speaker. Hon. Members, as you are aware, Kenya is a member of East Africa…

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Order, Hon. Members caucusing a kamukunji on my right!

Hon. Members, this is very important. The Committee of Constitutional Experts drafting constitutional amendments for political confederation is here in Kenya, and this process has been on-going in East Africa. So, Parliament is expected to give its views. As such, the Clerk’s Office has mandated the Committee on Regional Integration to write a memorandum and present its views to that Committee of …

Next Order.

Financial Statements for the National Government Constituencies Development Fund for Twenty-Six Constituencies in the Counties of Mombasa, Kilifi, Kwale, Taita Taveta, Lamu and Tana River for financial years 2013/2014, 2014/2015 and 2015/2016, laid on the Table of the House on Tuesday, 25th April 2023.

Thank you, Hon. Wanjiku Muhia. My records show that on this Motion on consideration of Reports of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements of National Government Constituency Development Fund (NG-CDF) , Hon. Jane Kihara was on the Floor and had a balance of six minutes. Is she in the House? If she is not, next is Hon. Phyllis Bartoo. I can see she is top on the list, or you are among those …

Hon. Speaker…

You are not ready for this?

No! I had been given an opportunity to present my views.

Already?

Yes.

Then disengage the equipment. Hon. John Kawanjiku. It appears he is ill-prepared for this and so, disengage. Hon. Wilberforce Oundo, had you keyed in to speak on this? Hon. Members, before Hon. Wilberforce Oundo speaks on this, I have asked the House Business Committee to design a better system of electronic queuing so that, at the end of every Order, we wipe the screen and key in, in order of in…

I need to check…

Hon. Oundo, unfortunately, you have already spoken on this.

That is what I was thinking, because my memory does not serve me wrong.

Hon. Samuel Atandi, have you keyed in to speak on this?

No! I do not want to speak on this one.

Hon. Peter Kihungi and Hon. Donya Dorice. Clear yourselves from the screen. I do not see Hon. Gertrude Mbeyu. Hon. Kibet Komingoi, Hon. Geoffrey Ruku, Hon. Geoffrey Mulanya… Amazing! Hon. Zamzam Chimba, Hon. Peter Orero of Kibra Constituency… He is not here. Hon. Robert Pukose. Give him the Floor.

Thank you Hon. Speaker, for allowing me to contribute to this Motion by the Decentralised Funds Accounts Committee on the consideration of the Reports of the Auditor-General for the Financial Years 2013/2014, 2014/2015 and 2015/2016, for the counties of Mombasa, Kwale, Kilifi, Tana River, Taita Taveta and Lamu. There are about 26 constituencies. Hon. Speaker, the reports of those constituencies t…

Looking at the Auditor-General's reports, the accounting officers for constituencies are the fund managers. So, it is essential that whenever the Auditor-General tables financial reports, Members have a look at them. What we observed in many reports is delays in releasing funds to constituencies. This has stuck to date because, as we speak, many constituencies have received less than half of what …

Order, Hon. Members. The Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning is now in the House. Allow me to interrupt debate and allow him to table his Report and give notice of Motion.

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Hon. Chairman.

Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Paper on the Table of the House: Report of the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning on its vetting of a nominee for appointment as Governor of the Central Bank of Kenya.

Thank you. Go ahead and give the notice of Motion.

Hon. Speaker, I beg to give notice of the following Motion: THAT, this House adopts the Report of the Budget and Appropriations

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implementation of the budget as approved in line with the provisions of the Public Finance Management (PFM) Act, 2012, especially with regard to reallocation of appropriated funds.

to undertake projects that improve human livelihood through Bottom-up Economic Transformation Agenda (BETA) intervention programs, including boosting food security and development.

to adequately fund national teams in various sports games for them to effectively participate in international sporting events.

drafting of a Bill that will transform Kenya Shipyard Limited into an independent parastatal operating under the Ministry and present it to the National Assembly by 30th December 2023.

Mover. Who should be the Mover of this Motion? The Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Environment, Forestry and Mining is not in the House. Hon. Dorothy Ikiara what is the matter? Why is the Mover not in the House? We cannot have business of Committees scheduled and duly notified on the Order Paper, but have Movers grounding business of the House.

On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

Hon. Dorothy Ikiara what is the issue? I see you are on a point of order.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I stand to be guided. There is no quorum in the House.

Ring the Quorum Bell for the time provided for in the Standing Order.

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