National Assembly · Afternoon Sitting

Wednesday, 11 October 2023

Session Summary

Hon. Samuel Atandi criticised the state of Kenya’s sugar industry, alleging that most sugar is imported, that political patronage fuels the sector’s problems and that the House is captured, especially regarding the recent waiver of sugar debts. Hon. John Kiarie contested Atandi’s factual claims, insisting the debt waiver was a parliamentary decision and urging adherence to standing orders. The Temporary Speaker intervened repeatedly to maintain order and demand factual accuracy. Members highlighted the chronic problems plaguing Kenya's sugar sector, including the collapse of government‑run mills, excessive imports and the resulting poverty among cane farmers. They called for stricter regulation of sugar imports, enforcement of existing agricultural laws, and a transparent privatisation process to revive factories and protect farmer interests. Members expressed concern over the rising drug and substance abuse problem, especially among youth, and criticised the scarcity of government‑run rehabilitation centres in regions like western Kenya. They urged the government to take a leading role in establishing and managing more centres while emphasizing prevention programmes. The motion to expand rehabilitation facilities received broad support across parties.

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Hon. Deputy Speaker

I order that the Quorum Bell be rung for 10 minutes. I direct that the Bell be rung for a further five minutes. I direct that the Bell be stopped. Let us proceed. Chairman for the Departmental Committee on Health.

[(The Quorum Bell was rung)]

[(The Quorum Bell was rung)]

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Hon. (Dr.) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA)

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I beg to lay the following papers on the Table: Report on the Departmental Committee on Health on its consideration of;

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Hon. Deputy Speaker

Hon. Member for Kajiado North. We will move on to Questions. The Member is not yet here. Let us go to Question No.371/2023. The Member for Matuga, Hon. Kassim Tandaza.

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Hon. Kassim Tandaza (Matuga, ANC)

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I rise to ask the Judicial Service Commission the following Question: Could the Commission ––

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Hon. Deputy Speaker

Thank you, Hon. Tandaza. That Question will be replied before the Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs. Next is Question No.440/2023 by Hon. (Prof.) Phylis Bartoo, Member for Moiben Constituency. Hon. Bartoo, you may ask the Teachers Service Commission Question 440/2023. The Clerk-at-the-Table will give her the Question. In the meantime - we will come back to her Question – we ca…

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Hon. Phylis Bartoo (Moiben, UDA)

Hon. Deputy Speaker, I rise to ask the Teachers Service Commission the following Question: Could the Commission ––

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Hon. Deputy Speaker

Thank you, Hon. (Prof.) Phylis Bartoo. That will be replied before the Departmental Committee on Education. I can see Hon. Joyce Kamene. Member for Machakos County has arrived. You may proceed to ask your Question 453/2023 to the Teachers Service Commission. Question 453/2023

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Hon. Joyce Kamene (Machakos County, WDM)

Hon. Deputy Speaker, I rise to ask the Teachers Service Commission the following Question: Could the Commission ––

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Hon. Deputy Speaker

Hon. Members, before we proceed, I would like to recognise students from Mumui Mixed Secondary School from Kipipiri Constituency, Nyandarua County. They are seated in the Speaker' s Gallery.

[(Applause)]

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Hon. Deputy Speaker

Hon. Members, debate had been concluded on this Motion. I now put the Question.

[(Question put and agreed to)]

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Hon. Deputy Speaker

Next Order. Yes, they were definitely not in the chamber. That is why I ignored them.

[(A Member spoke off the record)]

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Hon. Samuel Chepkonga (Ainabkoi, UDA)

On a point of order, Hon. Deputy Speaker.

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Hon. Deputy Speaker

Yes. What is your point of order, Hon. Chepkonga?

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Hon. Samuel Chepkonga (Ainabkoi, UDA)

Hon. Deputy Speaker, I rise pursuant to Standing Order 87. Is it in order for Members of Parliament who have not logged in to vote when they are outside Parliament? Is that not disorderly? They should be ruled out of order. You cannot be shouting yet you have not even heard the Question. They have just seen you. There is no voting by seeing. It is voting by hearing.

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Hon. Deputy Speaker

You are very correct, Hon. Chepkonga. They were actually before the Bar. They were not yet in the House. Hence, the reason I ignored them. Let us proceed to the next Order.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Rachael Nyamai)

Hon. Moses Kirima is not in the House. This Motion is deferred. Next Order.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Rachael Nyamai)

experience boom harvest every time there is adequate rains; concerned that such farmers majorly lack proper post-harvest grain handling and modern storage facilities and resort to selling their harvest almost immediately after harvesting at low prices when market is flooded to reduce the risk of suffering losses through spoilage; cognisant of the fact that the current state of affairs exacerbates …

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Rachael Nyamai)

Hon. Jessica Mbalu is not in the House. This Motion is deferred. Next Order.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Rachael Nyamai)

Hon. Umul Kheir Kassim is not in the House. Therefore, the Motion is also deferred. Next Order.

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Hon. Jared Okello (Nyando, ODM)

On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Rachael Nyamai)

What is out of order, Hon. Jared?

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Hon. Jared Okello (Nyando, ODM)

On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker. You have called out four different items on the Order Paper so far. Unfortunately, my colleagues who are the sponsors of these Motions are not in the House. We understand the stringent timelines that this House has. The Clerk of the National Assembly sends out the Order

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Hon. Jared Okello (Nyando, ODM)

Paper in good time. Patiently, and with great meekness, I ask my colleagues who have matters pending before this House to be showing up so that we transact business in good time. We have very few days remaining before we take our long recess. I know the tray is full. Therefore, we need to be proactive. I understand they are probably held up in various parliamentary activities. However, let us als…

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Rachael Nyamai)

Thank you very much, Hon. Jared. For information of the House, the Members whose Motions I just called out are engaged in other official duties. They had also informed the Speaker. Therefore, there is nothing out of order. We have deferred the Motions to give the Members opportunity to move them another day. We did not drop them. The next Order is by Hon. Peter Salasya. Please, proceed to move yo…

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr.) Rachael Nyamai)

Hon. Mishi Mboko. She is not in the House. So, the Motion is deferred. Next Order.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr.) Rachael Nyamai)

Hon. Caleb Amisi. He is not in the House. That Motion is also deferred. Next Order.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr.) Rachael Nyamai)

This Motion is by Hon. Mary Emaase, who is also not in the House. The Motion is deferred.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr.) Rachael Nyamai)

Next Order.

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Hon. Naomi Waqo (Marsabit County, UDA)

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move: THAT, aware that, the National Transport and Safety Authority Act 2012, provides for establishment of the National Transport and Safety Authority (NTSA) ; further aware that, the Authority in line with section 4 of the Act plays a critical role in ensuring the provision of safe, reliable and efficient road transport services; concerned that there has been an…

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr.) Rachael Nyamai)

Hon. Naomi Waqo, Member of Parliament for Marsabit County, I will call upon you to stop because of time. You will have

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr.) Rachael Nyamai)

five minutes to continue moving your Motion, and the seconder will be called upon by the Speaker in another sitting.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr.) Rachael Nyamai)

Hon. Members, the time being 1:00 p.m., this House stands adjourned until this afternoon, Wednesday, 11th October 2023 at 2:30 p.m. The House rose at 1.00 p.m.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr.) Rachael Nyamai)

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