National Assembly · Afternoon Sitting

The House is accordingly guided. Hon. Members, while still on my feet, allow me to recognise a delegation from the Transitional National Legislature of the Republic of South Sudan. I wish to introduce a delegation from the Transitional National Legislature of the Republic of South Sudan seated in the Speaker's Row. The delegation comprises the following six Members of the Parliamentary Service Com…

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Deputy Leader of the Majority Party.

Thank you very much, Hon. Speaker. I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table:

Thank you. Next is the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs.

Thank you very much, Hon. Speaker. I beg to lay the following Paper on the Table:

Next Order.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I wish to request a Statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security regarding the operationalisation of the administrative units in Isiolo County. Administrative units are critical in ensuring essential government services are accessible to the citizenry. On 17th…

Thank you. Yes, Hon. Julius Sunkuli. Is it on the same issue? Go ahead.

Hon. Speaker, I just want to joyride on her request for a Statement. Kindly, when the Chairman stands to address the issue, he should not limit himself to Isiolo. This is a matter that is affecting many parts of Kenya, including my constituency. We would like to have clear timelines. Sometimes, some people read these things in different ways. However, it would be good if the Statement clearly stat…

Yes, Hon. Bowen.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Allow me to say something about the request for a Statement by Hon. Mumina. There are so many administrative units—some date back almost three years since they were gazetted and have never been operationalised. There is need to have a policy. The Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security and his Committee should know that there is ne…

Hon. Owen.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I would also like to joyride on the same request for a Statement. I will just say one thing. I request the Committee in charge to ensure that there is sufficient budget. We can speak and ask all these questions but we should know that. I have been to the Ministry of Interior and National Administration office several times, and I have always been told that they gazette adm…

Those are enough joyriders. What is it Hon. Nicholas Ng’ikor?

Hon. Speaker, I just want to add my voice on the issue of administrative units. In Turkana East, we are facing the same challenge in administrative units. Suguta Sub-County was created, and it is now operational. However, it is only the Deputy County Commissioner (DDC) who is there. There are no Assistant County Commissioners (ACCs) and chiefs. All these were gazetted together. I do not know how t…

Hon. Tongoyo, you can see the number of joyriders, and there are many more. Hon. Johanna, when he finishes, just whisper to him what you want. He is next to you.

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Hon. Speaker, as you have rightly put it, the interest is so high. I will give a comprehensive response the first week after the short recess. I want to confirm that I actually discussed with Hon. Bonaya. When we were discussing the Budget Policy Statement (BPS) with the Ministry of Interior and the Cabinet Secretary as a Committee, we interrogated the same. For the record – as we wait for the com…

Well, you will still have to bring a written response in three weeks. Hon. Members, before I give Hon. Joshua Kandie the opportunity, allow me to acknowledge the following schools seated in the Speaker’s Gallery:

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Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I stand to welcome the girls from AIC Chebisas from Aldai Constituency. I also welcome the other students from the other schools. Today, we are seated down here in the red seats, and they are up there watching us. We encourage them to work very hard and smart because tomorrow, any of them could be seated where we are today. Therefore, we encourage them to work hard and sma…

Member for Gichugu, Hon. Gichimu.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I join the Member for Aldai in welcoming all the students who have visited Parliament this afternoon, particularly Kianyaga High School, which is within my constituency. This school has been shining for many years, with exemplary performance at the national music festivals. It is one of the schools that has also produced very eminent and prominent leaders in this country, …

education is key. I encourage them to continue doing well, both academically and in co- curricular activities. The future is bright for all of you. Thank you so much, Hon. Speaker.

Hon. Tongoyo.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I also join the rest of my colleagues and yourself in welcoming all the students visiting this august House to follow the proceedings first-hand. In particular, I welcome Olderkesi Secondary School, which is from my constituency. This is a school from the most remote part of Narok County. Last year, they had a mean score of about 8.02, which was the best in the county. Thi…

Hon. Joshua Kandie, Member for Baringo Central.

Hon. Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request a Statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Education regarding the shortage of teachers in Baringo Central Constituency. A teacher shortfall in a school presents several challenges including increased workload for existing teachers, inconsistent student learning experiences, difficulty…

Thank you, Hon. Kandie. Hon. Melly, can you respond in three weeks?

Yes, Hon. Speaker, I will respond in the next three weeks. Thank you.

Hon. Dorice Donya.

Hon. Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request a Statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Agriculture and Livestock regarding the payment of annual bonuses to tea farmers. Tea farming is a major economic activity in Kenya, contributing significantly to the country's export earnings and providing livelihoods for millions of Kenyans.…

policy, has caused concerns about fairness, transparency, and equity in the payment system among farmers. It is against this background that I request the Chairperson of the Departmental

Thank you, Hon. Donya. Chairperson, Departmental Committee on Agriculture and Livestock. Leader of the Majority Party, inform the Chairman to bring a response in three weeks. Hon. John Kaguchia.

Hon. Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request a Statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Health regarding the acute shortage of blood testing kits in the country. In the recent past, the Kenya National Blood Transfusion Service (KNBTS) has been facing an acute shortage of essential testing kits used for blood donation, including l…

Thank you, Hon. Kaguchia. Chairman, Departmental Committee on Health. Leader of the Majority Party. Yes, Hon. Pukose.

I am still the Chairman until tomorrow. I will still be a ranking Member of the Committee. We can give a response in three weeks when the National Assembly resumes from recess.

Thank you, Hon. Pukose. Next Order. The Deputy Speaker. Hold on, Hon. Deputy Speaker.

Hon. Speaker, I disagree a little with the Hon. Chairman on the number of weeks he has given. Since this is a very sensitive health issue, by the time we are done with the three weeks of recess, we will have lost many patients in the country. Hon. Speaker, I propose that he give a response as early as this Friday if you allow.

Hon. Kaguchia, Hon. Pukose has said that he ceases being the Chairman of that Committee tomorrow. The Committee has to elect a Chairperson. We are also going on recess on Friday, 14th March 2025, after the Morning Sitting. So, you will just have to bear with us. I direct that a response be brought on day one after recess. The recess is only two weeks. We can bear with that. Are you okay with that?

Hon. Speaker, because the Committee is a growing concern, the incoming Chairperson can take up the matter immediately after he is elected tomorrow. This will ensure that we put a bit of pressure as Parliament on the Executive to ensure that members of this nation access blood transfusion services because of the sensitivity of the issue.

Hon. Pukose, whomever you elect as the Chairperson, ask… Yes, Hon. Pukose?

Hon. Speaker, I know the issue that Hon. Kaguchia has raised is critical, but I indulge him to allow a smooth transition so that we can give him a satisfactory answer. If we were to give him an answer by Friday, he would still complain that it is not satisfactory. I ask the Member to be patient, and we will give him a satisfactory answer in three weeks.

Thank you. Three weeks. Deputy Speaker.

3) THAT, given that several policy pronouncements in the BPS have not been funded, before submission of the Budget Estimates for FY 2025/26 to the National Assembly, the Cabinet Secretary for the National Treasury and Economic Planning ensures that these unfunded priorities have been factored within the approved ceilings as provided in the Fourth Schedule to the Report. 4) THAT, on submission of t…

12) THAT, by 30th April 2025, the Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission submits to Parliament a comprehensive report detailing all pending bills, including legal fees, election logistics, and other outstanding obligations, for verification and scrutiny.

Department for Transport. This is to safeguard a structure that ensures the realization of the original goal of the LAPSSET integrated economic multi-modal transport corridor and smoothly executes its critical role of coordination, planning, development and management of the Corridor. Housing, Urban Planning and Public Works Sector 22) THAT, by 31st December 2025, the State Department for Housing …

tracks the review of Sessional Paper No.3 of 2009 on the National Land Policy and presents a report to National Assembly by 31st December 2025. Environment, Forestry and Mining Sector 30) THAT, by 30th July 2025, the State Department for Environment and Climate Change presents a comprehensive framework to the National Assembly on carbon credit resource mobilization. This framework should outline s…

for review. This will ensure equitable resource distribution, guide budget planning for FY 2025/26, and help address funding disparities in water-scarce areas.

Leader of the Majority Party, you are replying to the debate on this Bill.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker, for allowing me to reply to the County Governments Additional Allocations Bill (National Assembly Bill No. 2 of 2025) . First, I thank all the Members who contributed to the debate on this Bill. As I said while moving the debate, and as many Members observed during the debate, this is the second attempt by this House to enact this Bill. Our first attempt during the last S…

infrastructure. Therefore, I implore them to give this process a chance. I have seen attempts to water down this Bill by publishing a similar Bill in the Senate. I urge the Senate to give this process a chance since this is a money Bill. I urge them to allow it to progress through the Senate to enable the county governors to access funds that will help our constituents and ward representatives. T…

Take your seat, Hon. Member.

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[(The Bill was read a Second Time and Committed to a Committee of the whole House)]

Hon. Members, the Member for Nambale has requested that I acknowledge a group seated in the Public Gallery from his constituency. They are members of the Young Aspiring Leaders Association from Nambale Constituency, Busia County. I will now give you one minute to acknowledge their presence.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker, for allowing me to welcome the young aspiring leaders from Nambale Constituency to this august House. This group of young people has come together with the common goal of learning how to offer leadership in the future. As they say, youth are the future leaders and drivers of innovation, and they are expected to drive the economic growth of a nation. If they do not move clo…

Hon. Members, I am advised that the Schedule to Order No.11 is very long and is still being prepared. On that score, if it is agreeable with you, we can go to Order No.12. We can go back to Order No.11 when the Schedule is ready. Does that sit well with you, Leader of the Majority Party?

Yes, Hon. Speaker. As soon as the Clerks- at-the-Table share the Schedule, we can go back to Order No.11. However, I think they should have published them on the gadgets in the House so we can access them from there.

Can you post them on the gadgets?

Just post them on the gadgets.

These are time-bound legislations.

Yes.

Leading Clerk-at-the-Table, call out Order No.11.

Hon. Speaker, I beg to move the following Motion: THAT, this House adopts the Report of the Liaison Committee on its consideration of the Second Supplementary Estimates for the Financial Year 2024/2025, laid on the Table of the House on Wednesday, 12th March 2025, and pursuant to the provisions of Article 223 of the Constitution, section 39 of the Public Finance Management Act, Cap. 412A and Stan…

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On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

What is your point of order, Hon. Irene Mayaka?

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I rise on Standing Order 35. I have noticed that on every subsequent Motion you call out, the responsible people are not present. So, we do not have sufficient quorum.

Very well. Serjeant-at-Arms, you may ring the Quorum Bell for 10 minutes. Order, Hon. Members. You cannot walk out when the Quorum Bell is ringing. Order, Hon. Members. Serjeant-at-Arms, stop the Quorum Bell. The Bell has been ringing for 10 minutes. Hon. Members, you may take your seats.

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[(Several Hon. Members walked out of the Chamber)]

[(Hon. Nabii Nabwera spoke off record)]

Order, Hon. Nabii. Hon. Members, a Member rose in her place under Standing Order 35 and indicated that we did not have a quorum. Indeed, I observed that there was no quorum and asked the Serjeant-at-Arms to ring the Bell for 10 minutes. I can still confirm to the House that there is no quorum. Therefore, Hon. Members, let us be upstanding.