National Assembly · Morning Sitting

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I would like to ask the Cabinet Secretary for Interior and National Administration the following Question: -

The Question will be replied to before the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security. The next Question is by the Member for Igembe North, Hon. Taitumu M’anaiba.

Question 39/2023

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I rise to ask the Cabinet Secretary for Tourism, Wildlife and Heritage the following Question: Could the Cabinet Secretary -

The Question will be replied to before the Departmental Committee on Tourism and Wildlife. The next Question is by the Member for Sirisia, Hon. John Waluke. Question 41/2023

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I rise to ask the Cabinet Secretary for Health the following Question: Considering that claims made to the National Health Insurance Fund (NHIF) for renal dialysis are in excess of Ksh8 billion annually, could the Cabinet Secretary urgently consider reviewing the NHIF cover to include funding for kidney transplants and purchase of anti-rejection drugs, which enable patient…

The Question will be replied to before the Departmental Committee on Health. The next Question is by the Member for Malindi, Hon. Amina Mnyazi. Question 42/2023

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I rise to ask the National Land Commission the following Question: Could the Commission provide a status report regarding compensation for the land that was acquired for Phases I and II of the expansion of the Malindi International Airport, detailing the expected timeline for conclusion of the compensation?

The Question will be replied to before the Departmental Committee on Lands. The final Question is by the Member for Matuga, Hon. Kassim Tandaza. Question 43/2023

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I rise to ask the Cabinet Secretary for Labour and Social Protection the following Question:

The Question will be replied to before the Departmental Committee on Social Protection. Next Order.

Opportunity Act (AGOA), employee training and retention, provision of reliable supply of raw materials for Agro-processing companies, improvement of infrastructure to enhance steady supply of water and power and provision of affordable access to credit facilities among others, this House resolves that the National Government through the Ministry of Trade, Investments and Industry, develops a polic…

Hon. Members, this Motion has a balance of 25 minutes. The Member for Nakuru County, Hon. Liza Chelule, was on the Floor. If she is in the House, she has a balance of eight minutes. If not, she forfeits them. If you have already spoken to the Motion, please do not speak twice and let the House know. Hon. Charles Onchoke from Bonchari, you have spoken to the Motion. Hon. Julius Ruto from Kesses. No…

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I confirm that I have not spoken to this Motion. First and foremost, allow me to thank Hon. Beatrice Elachi for thinking on behalf of the wider Kenya. The Export Processing Zones (EPZ) are not just about addressing industrialization, they are also about addressing both the manpower and the industry. Looking at the Motion as it is structured, it gives us a long h…

a farming organisation in this country to discuss why we are not exporting meat. How do we export meat whose quality is not competitive enough? We must support agriculture in terms of establishing good centres like Bashuma Centre in Mombasa, which was supposed to produce good quality meat that could compete with meat from other countries. The EPZ should not just produce clothes. We can produce a …

: Thank you, Hon. Wangwe. The Member for Mosop, Hon. Abraham Kirwa, has spoken to this Motion. Member for Matuga, Hon. Kassim Tandaza, you may proceed.

[(Hon. Martha Wangari)]

Asante Mhe. Spika wa Muda. Tumekuwa na hili suala la kutengeneza sehemu hususan za kuzalisha bidhaa za kuenda nchi za ughaibuini kwa muda mrefu. Tumekuwa nalo tangu likiwa linajaribiwa. Nasema “kujaribiwa” kwa sababu ijapokuwa tuko na taasisi mbali mbali za kushugulikia suala la kutengeneza bidhaa kwa minajili ya kupeleka nje, mpaka sasa halijafaulu. Kwa hivyo imefika wakati Mhe. Elachi kuleta hiy…

kutoka nchi hii na kufikiria kuekeza sehemu nyingine. Hii inatokana na ile miundo-misingi ambayo tuko nayo. Kwamba, wakati wowote ambapo tunataka kuweka sehemu kama hizi, basi wale mabwenyenye ama wakora hujiingiza pale. Ni kwa sababu wao hujua mapema kwamba Serikali inanuia kufanya sehemu fulani eneo la kuzalisha bidhaa za kupeleka soko la nje. Basi mabwenyenye huingia katika sehemu hiyo na kunya…

: Thank you, Member for Matuga. This Motion has run out of time. I will now give the opportunity to the Member for Dagoretti North, the Mover, to reply.

[(Hon. Martha Wangari)]

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. First, I want to thank you for seconding the Motion. I also want to thank every Member who has contributed to this Motion. The passage of this Motion will turn around the situations that we have in our country. I will be following it up with a proposal to amend the Act so that we

see many young people not just within Kitengela but also across the country. We need to spread the EPZ spirit to other areas of the country. I want to appreciate the Cabinet Secretary for Trade and Industry, who has started to open up different zones of EPZ. This has encouraged women. As we put up the shades and all that is needed, it is important that women join and tender to be part of the proce…

Hon. Members, before we go to the next Motion, let us re-visit Order No.5 to allow the Chairman of the Budget and Appropriation Committee to lay the Paper I mentioned earlier on. He will then give notice of Motion under Order No.6. Proceed, Hon. Ndindi Nyoro.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I beg to lay the following Paper on the Table: Report of the Budget and Appropriation Committee on the Budget Policy Statement (BPS) for the Financial Year 2023/2024 and the Medium-Term and the Compendium of the Departmental Committee Reports on the 2023 Budget Policy Statement. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

Please, lay the Paper. Just lay the Paper and proceed to Order No. 6 to give notice of Motion.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to give notice of the following Motion: - THAT, this House adopts the Report of the Budget and Appropriations

Thank you Chair. We will now go to Order No. 9. Mthamini wa Hoja hii, Mbunge wa Nyali, Mhe. Mohammed Ali.

Mhe. Spika wa Muda, ninaomba kutoa Hoja ifuatayo: KWAMBA, tukifahamu kuwa, familia ndiyo kiungo cha msingi cha jamii na kutambua kwamba utamaduni wa Kiafrika unathamini sana asasi ya ndoa ambayo inahakikisha kuendelea kwa binadamu kupitia uzazi; tukizingatia ukweli kwamba, Ibara ya 45 (2) ya Katiba inaeleza kuwa kila mtu mzima ana haki ya kufunga ndoa na mtu wa jinsia tofauti kwa msingi wa hiari b…

kwa mujibu wa Ibara ya 45(2) ya Katiba na Kifungu cha 162 cha Sheria ya Adhabu ili kuikinga jamii, hasa watoto na vijana, dhidi ya kufikiwa na mielekeo potovu ya mapenzi na ndoa ya jinsia moja. Mhe. Spika, labda nikianza kuizungumzia Hoja hii ni wazi kwamba mengi yamekuwa yakisemwa katika vyombo vya habari na tumeyaona matukio mbalimbali humu nchini.

Mhe. wa Nyali tafadhali ni lazima uweze kuwasilisha Hoja hii kirasmi.

Mhe. Spika wa Muda, ninawasilisha Hoja hii kirasmi. Shukrani sana. Kama nilivyotangulia kusema Mhe. Spika wa Muda, ni kwamba kumekuwa na taarifa zikichapishwa kuhusu tabia potovu inayoenda kinyume na maumbile nchini Kenya. Tabia hiyo imeanza kukita mizizi. Sisi kama viongozi ni jukumu letu kusimama na kupinga maovu ambayo hayakubaliki katika dini zetu, utamaduni wetu, na asili yetu. Jambo hili ge…

[(ardhi hiyo iwe juu chini)]

[(wa motoni uliokamatana)]

[(kila moja kuwa ya mtu fulani)]

wanaosoma Bibilia, wanajua Bibilia iko wazi kabisa. Bibilia inazungumzia mambo haya ya uchafu. Leo hii, labda wale ambao hawasomi vitabu hivi vitakatifu watapata fursa ya kujua haya maneno ninayoyazungumzia, Mhe. Spika Muda. Katika Walawi 20:13, Mwenyezi Mungu anasema nini? Anasema, “Kama mwanaume yeyote akilala na mwanaume mwenzake kana kwamba ni mwanamke, basi wote wawili ni lazima wauawe kwani…

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wapatiwe misaada, heri wafe njaa. Hakika, heri tufe njaa badala ya kukubali ushoga na usagaji nchini. Rais Yoweri Kaguta Museveni amekataa kata kata mambo haya na kusema kuwa ikiwa Wazungu wanashinikiza kuhalalishwa kwa tabia hizo potovu, basi na wawekwe pamoja ‘mabeberu’ wawili yaani wanaume wawili mashoga katika jela. Wakizaa mtoto, basi tutawaamini na tutawaachilia. (Kicheko) Mheshimiwa Spika …

hawaelewi tunazungumzia nini. Tabia ya kuenda kinyume na maumbile iko na athari zake pia za kiafya. Msije mkafurahi mkajiona mabeberu mashoga mwatembea barabarani; iko na athari zake zikiwemo za kiafya na nitawaeleza. Na mkumbuke haya yote tunayopitia hivi sasa duniani, kwa mfano, hakujanyesha mvua kwa miaka minne; kuwepo njaa; matatizo ya hapa na pale; bibi na bwana kuteta; bwana kuua bibi; mama …

Mhe. wa Nyali, najua umeweka taswira sambamba lakini lazima tumalizie. Nakupatia dakika mbili umalizie.

Asante sana, Mhe. Spika wa muda. Lesbians ama wasagaji wanatumia vitu kama mipira inayotolewa Ulaya na kisha wanauliza wanaume kama watawaweza. Nitakuweza vipi kama unatumia vitu vya ajabu? Fikra zao ni za jike. Kuna jike dume na mwanaume bwege. Hormones zao hazifanyi kazi. Napendekeza sheria kali itolewe iwe kabisa inaonyesha kwamba haya yote yakifanyika, lazima tuchukue hatua za kisheria kama Ug…

Mhe. Tandaza.

Asante sana, Mhe. Spika wa Muda. Asante Mbunge wa Nyali, Mohamed Ali, ambaye anajulikana pia kama Jicho Pevu. Leo, Sheikh wetu ametusomea aya kutoka Quran takatifu. Baadaye, akageuka kuwa padri na kutuelekeza kwenye Bibilia hasa kwa wale wenzetu wa upande ule mwingine. Kufikia hapo nitasema, ‘Takbir na Bwana asifiwe.’ Ametekeleza hayo yote mawili. Naunga mkono hii Hoja. Kuna viwango vitatu ambavy…

Baadaye tutaingia ile hatua ya nne ambayo watu huanza kusema, ‘Shauri yake. Kama mtu ni shoga, ni ushoga wake.’ Kuna wengine ambao husema ushoga wa siku moja si ushoga. Ukishaanza tabia hii, ni kama vile mchovya asali ambaye hachovyi mara moja. Kumbuka kuna shinikizo kutoka nchi za kigeni ambazo zimeanza kuleta misaada na kuwapatia watu pesa kibinafsi siyo kwamba wasaidie jamii, lakini waendeleze …

Hoja ya nidhamu, Mhe. Spika wa Muda.

Mjumbe wa Kilifi Kaskazini, una Hoja gani ya nidhamu?

Hoja yangu ya nidhamu, ukiniruhusu, Mhe. Spika wa Muda, ni kwamba si vizuri kuwa na mawazo mabaya juu yawenzako. Kwa lugha ya Kimombo ni ‘to impute improper motive’. Mheshimiwa amesema kwamba hawa Wabunge wamenunuliwa ili wachangie haya maneno. Hawa ni watu walio na heshima zao. Tafadhali toa jambo hilo, yaani withdraw kwa lugha ya kimombo kisha uendelee na Hoja yako vizuri bila kuhusisha Wabunge …

Nimesema, ‘Baadhi yao’ wala siyo wote. Nafikiri wenyewe wako hapa. Wengine watajitokeza. Haya mazungumzo yako. Nimesema kwamba tumefika katika kitengo cha tatu. Tuwapatie onyo tu. Wale ambao wana fikra kama hizi wajue kwamba watalaaniwa. Sheikh, ama padre Mohamed Ali ametuambia hivyo na amenukuu vitabu vya Mwenyezi Mungu. Samahani kwa wale ambao hawana fikira kama hizo. Wale walio na fikira kama h…

kuwa mke wa mtu fulani ambaye ni rais, utapata umaarufu. Labda utaitwa ‘mwanamke wa kwanza’ ama ‘mwungwana wa kwanza’. Tufahamu ya kwamba hizi ni mbinu za kishetani juu ya wale ambao wamepotoka na yale mataifa ambayo yanajua hayana nidhamu wala raha mbele ya Mwenyezi Mungu. Ikiwa utaogopa kuzaa mtoto kwa sababu hali ya maisha ni ngumu, Sheikh Mohamed Ali ametuambia kuna aya inayosema kwamba rizik…