National Assembly · Afternoon Sitting

Hon. Members, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 41 (4) of the National Assembly Standing Orders, I wish to report to the House that I have received a Message from the Senate regarding the approval of the 4th basis for revenue allocation among county governments, in accordance with Article 217 (3) of the Constitution. The Message conveys that on Thursday, 12th June 2025, the Senate cons…

Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Paper on the Table:

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Hon. Speaker, I beg to give notice of the following Motion: THAT, pursuant to the provisions of Article 113 (2) of the Constitution and Standing Order 150 (3) , this House adopts the Report of the Mediation Committee on the Division of Revenue Bill (National Assembly Bill No.10 of 2025) , laid on the Table of the House on Wednesday, 18th June 2025, and approves the mediated version of the Divisio…

Hon. Otiende Amollo and Hon. Murugara had some points of order. You approached the Chair to allow you to prosecute them. I will give each of you a minute to do so.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. The Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs presented a report on the public participation on the Constitution of Kenya (Amendment) Bill on the National Government Constituencies Development Fund (NG-CDF) . After the First Reading of the Bill, we had to wait for the mandatory period as prescribed to elapse. By my count, that period elapsed a…

I seek your direction on the next step so that it is clear to all Members. I am sure most Members want to participate in the Second Reading and to be present during voting. Given the Members’ schedules, unless this is made clear, some Members might not participate. Hon. Speaker, I seek your indulgence and direction on this, on whether we can have an informal discussion given that not all Members …

Hon. Murugara, you have a minute. Give him the microphone.

Thank you very much, Hon. Speaker. Maybe, Senior Counsel Otiende Amollo has not yet seen the Supplementary Order Paper. The matter is listed for debate today, but his plea is valid. Members should be informed about the contents of the Bill and the report and internalise them, so that we can discuss and debate them honourably. However, that is not my point of order. Members have accused me of bein…

Order, Hon. Tongoyo, take the nearest seat. Order, Hon. Bensuda, take the nearest seat.

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That notwithstanding, memories fail and people change their minds or forget things. I have acceded to the request for a special kamukunji on Tuesday at 9.00 a.m. to allow us to apprise ourselves on the contents of this important Bill that seeks to entrench the National Government Affirmative Action Fund (NGAAF), the NG-CDF and the Senate Oversight Fund into the Constitution. Once we start debate i…

Leader of the Majority Party.

I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table: Supplementary Estimates (No.3) for the 2024/2025 Financial Year and the following accompanying documents from the National Treasury:

Thank you, Hon. Baya. Hon. Members, allow me to acknowledge students from Kambara Secondary School from Mathioya in Murang’a County. They are in the Public Gallery. On my behalf and that of the House, we welcome the students, their teachers, and those accompanying them to the House of Parliament.

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THAT, the Bill be amended by deleting Clause 32 and substituting therefor the following new clause— Interpretation.

THAT, the Bill be amended by deleting Clause 33 and substituting therefor the following new clause— Revocation of

The Chairperson on the Finance Bill to report to the House.

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Hon. Temporary Speaker, on behalf of the Chairperson, Hon. David Ochieng’, I beg to report that the Committee of the whole House has considered the Finance Bill (National Assembly Bill No.19 of 2025) and approved the same with amendments.

Mover of the Bill to move for agreement with the report.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, before I move, I wish to thank the Members of this House for the robust debate we have had. I strongly believe it has enriched our Bill and informed how we will carry out this exercise in future. Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that this House do agree with the report of the Committee of the whole House on its consideration of the Finance Bill (National Assembly Bill…

Hon. Chiforomodo

I second.

Who wants to speak to this? Yes, Hon. Omboko Milemba.

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Bwana, I am a Member of Parliament for Emuhaya Constituency. Hon. Temporary Speaker, I thank Hon. Members who sat through the sittings since yesterday. They participated well and the debate was good. Some clauses, for instance, the clause on limiting of the Private Members space did not require a lengthy debate this afternoon. Its debate had been exhausted yesterday. Again, today many Members, in…

Any more contributions? Hon. Makali Mulu.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I want to join Hon. Colleagues in appreciating the good work that was done by the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning and the contributions of the Members in today’s Committee of the whole House stage. It has been very enlightening. I appreciate that the Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning dropped some amend…

Hon. Members, we still have the Equalisation Fund Appropriation Bill to deal with. I am going to give all of you a chance to contribute, but please make it brief.

Hon. Samuel Atandi, Chairman of the Budget and Appropriations Committee.

Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Let me also join my colleagues in appreciating the competence and the leadership of the Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning, my brother, CPAK Kimani Kuria, who has ably led it since we joined this Parliament. For the first time, we have a Finance Bill that is not controversial. This is largely due to how the Committe…

Thank you, Hon. Atandi. Indeed, those two Bills shall be debated to conclusion today. Therefore, all those interested in participating in those matters should begin walking back into the chamber. Hon. Owen Baya.

Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I wish to thank the Committee and all those who have participated in the debate on the Finance Bill 2025. I look forward to a time when this country shall handle one Finance Bill every two or three years, so that we are not compelled to continuously amend laws annually. At times, the numerous changes introduced through frequent amendments become lost in…

work, especially during the Third Reading. That should concern us as a House. Apart from Hon. Mayaka and perhaps now, Hon. Nyakundi, I do not see many new Members participating actively in the law-making process. Hon. Millie Odhiambo, I believe you have a responsibility to train other female Members to follow your example in legislative engagement, as Hon. Mayaka has done by consistently staying …

A chick that will grow into a cock is seen when it is hatched. From the time Hon. Irene Mayaka came to this House, we knew she would be a great legislator. Hon. Mayaka, make your contribution.

I thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. You know very well that I learn from the best. I also give my accolades to the Committee, that is led by fellow CPA Hon. Kimani Kuria, for this particular Finance Bill, especially the theme around encouraging policy rather than just looking at the common mwananchi to increase taxes. This is something I wish more legislators were here to listen to because we are…

The Question relevant to where we are, and all preceding matters, will be put when this business will come to the House in future. I want the Chairperson to report to the House on the Kenya National Council for Population and Development Bill (National Assembly Bill No.72 of 2023) . Give him the microphone.

[(Putting of the Question deferred)]

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to report that the Committee of the whole house has considered the Kenya National Council for

Population and Development Bill (National Assembly Bill No.72 of 2023) and approved the same with amendments.

Can the Mover move agreement with the Report?

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that this House do agree with the report of the Committee of the whole House on its consideration of the Kenya National Council for Population and Development (National Assembly Bill No. 72 of 2023) . This is a very important piece of legislation to set up the Kenya National Council for Population and Development. We have heard about it for many years, but it…

[(Hon. Peter Kaluma)]

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairman. I rise to second and thank the Chairperson, Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning for a very good job for this and the previous Bill on finance that has taken into account the issues and concerns of Kenyans. I know for this segment it is not a debate, but really to congratulate and raise one or two issues. But I just want to say that contrary …

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[(Hon. Peter Kaluma)]

Yes, Hon. Temporary Chairman. Sorry to take you back. But one of the conversations that this Parliament and this discussion has done, and also came out prominently during public participation, and if you read our reports, you will see that is one of our recommendations, we need to revisit our PAYE bands.

If you check, the first Ksh288,000 per annum is taxed at an Income Tax rate of 10 per cent. The next Ksh100,000 is taxed at 25 per cent, and then there is a skip all the way to between an annual salary of up to now Ksh380,000 to Ksh5.612 million at 30 per cent. Therefore, that huge jump is something that needs to be reconsidered. But most importantly, the next Ksh3.6 million is taxed at 32.5 per …

Hon. Kimani Kuria, I allowed you to speak to it because it is so important. We are already on a different subject, but it is very important. I know the contribution you have made, though belated, it pleases Hon. Makali Mulu. Let me remind all of us that we are on the Kenyan National Council for Population and Development Bill. Yes, Hon. Millie Odhiambo.

Hon. Speaker, sometimes it is good to help us as a legal mind. Since he was also saying very nice things, I decided to be quiet. In future, for instance, now you are talking about the population, you could have said, “The population of Kenya has grown immensely, but because of these issues…”, and now you go ahead and raise the issues. That should have been the entry point.

Hon. Members, the Question for the adoption of the Report of the Committee and other matters remaining under this particular Bill will be transacted in the future when the House Business Committee will next schedule it to be transacted.

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On a point of order.

Next Order. Hon. Dido Raso never raises a point of order. What is out of order today? The directions I have given are all for the convenience of the House.

Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. As you are giving chances to those who are speaking, I notice you are biased to your left. I cannot really prove that your peripheral vision on the right limits you. Please, in future, those of us in the House also wish to contribute.

Hon. Dido Raso, never attribute any form of bias to the Speaker. The Speaker observes the entire House and recognises each and every Member according to when they are recognised. Thank you.

Next Order. I am informed that the Speaker had ordered that the matter appearing as Order No.10 comes first. Was that so?

Hon. Chairman.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, considering the materiality of this Bill and that we have two minutes to the end of business today, I request that we defer this business to tomorrow in the afternoon.

I rule that we follow what the Chairman has said. Let us be up standing. I thank the Members for staying very strongly up to this hour, at 9.00 p.m., to deal with all the businesses that require the timelines that we have set out. Some of the Bills that we have dealt with have timelines.