Senate · Morning Sitting

Clerk, do we have quorum? Serjeant-at-Arms, kindly ring the Quorum Bell for 10 minutes. Serjeant-at-Arms, kindly ring the Quorum Bell for a further 10 minutes. Hon. Senators, we now have quorum. So, we will start the day’s business. Clerk, you may call out the first Order.

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Cabinet Secretary, proceed. The Cabinet Secretary for Lands, Public Works, Housing and Urban Development : On the question on the College of Insurance asked by Hon. Senator for Nairobi- Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, this is grant No. LR No. 209/10210 or IR No.66157 which contained an acreage of two hectares more particularly, delineated in survey plan No.193902. The grant comprised a leasehold ter…

[(Hon. Alice Wahome)]

The Court of Appeal in Civil Appeal No.E505, consolidated with case No.E519 of 2020, upheld the position taken by ELC in the High Court. We have put an annexure and a bundle of documents, including the decree and an order of the Court of Appeal. Those are the annexures there one to four. That is the judgment of 14th June, 2024, in the Court of Appeal, decree dated 22nd August, 2024. In other word…

Sen. Sifuna, your supplementary question? Sen. Sifuna: Madam CS, I assure you that you have the full support of the people of Nairobi as you fight to recover all these properties that belong to the public that have been illegally acquired. My question to the CS was on what sort of defense they put up in this particular matter. If I remember my land law at the University of Nairobi, the first all…

Sen. Sifuna, your question is very wide. You are asking the CS what sort of defense they put up in this case on a matter which has already been pronounced by the courts.

Sen. Sifuna, your question is very wide. You are asking the CS what sort of defense they put up in this case on a matter which has already been pronounced by the courts.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, you heard her saying that even in the case involving Tom Mboya, the Ministry is putting up a strong defense because their records are what the courts rely on. So my only concern is how was it possible? So if she can just give us a brief on the sort of defense they put up, unless, you think that it is not an important question.

Sen. Sifuna, no, it is an important question, but I do not know if the CS will be in a capacity to know the defense that was put in place. The Cabinet Secretary for Lands, Public Works, Housing and Urban Development : Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I am following the concerns of the honourable Senator for Nairobi City County. I invite the honourable Senator to read the judgments from the High Cour…

[(Hon. Alice Wahome)]

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I am very concerned about this double allocation of land that was initially allocated to, I believe, what is currently the Kenya College of Insurance, which was later allocated to a private developer. I have listened to the Cabinet Secretary explaining the measures in her last paragraph that they are taking, including digitisation. However, my question to th…

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I am very concerned about this double allocation of land that was initially allocated to, I believe, what is currently the Kenya College of Insurance, which was later allocated to a private developer. I have listened to the Cabinet Secretary explaining the measures in her last paragraph that they are taking, including digitisation. However, my question to th…

Sen. Osotsi, you may proceed.

Thank you Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. The issue of double registration among other malpractices in land management is real, not just in Nairobi, but all over the country. I have seen the Cabinet Secretary say that they have undertaking digitalisation of land records. This matter of digital digitalisation of the records of the Ministry of Lands, Public Works, Housing and Urban Development has been…

Sen. Osotsi, I do not know if you were here when the Cabinet Secretary said that for Nairobi City County, it is almost 90 per cent completed. Are you asking now for the timelines for the whole country?

This question was touching on the Nairobi and that is why I am asking you: Are you asking for the timeline for the whole county?

This question was touching on the Nairobi and that is why I am asking you: Are you asking for the timeline for the whole county?

Yes, I am asking for the whole country.

Hon. Cabinet Secretary, you may proceed to respond. The Cabinet Secretary for Lands, Public Works, Housing and Urban Development : Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. In response to Sen. Osotsi, let me say that, maybe by way of repeating myself; it is true that the programme of our digitisation has taken long, but the Ministry having realised that the speed and the funding that we are getting…

[(Hon. Alice Wahome)]

The funding is available hence we will move faster. I may have an opportunity to come back here to give Parliament a better answer on where we are and how we are going to complete the remaining work.

The funding is available hence we will move faster. I may have an opportunity to come back here to give Parliament a better answer on where we are and how we are going to complete the remaining work.

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I beg to ask the Cabinet Secretary for Lands, Public Works, Housing and Urban Development the following Question.

Sen. Hezena Lemaletian, proceed.

the Executive Committee of the forum of Parliaments for Member States of International Conference on Great Lakes Region which was held on 5th to 6th, June, 2024, Republic of Angola. Under the consultative meeting which was held on 20th to 25th January in Kinshasa, Congo, the Kenyan Delegation was presented by me accompanied by Mr. Polycarp Matara, who is a Clerk Assistant. The purpose of the miss…

the Executive Committee of the forum of Parliaments for Member States of International Conference on Great Lakes Region which was held on 5th to 6th, June, 2024, Republic of Angola. Under the consultative meeting which was held on 20th to 25th January in Kinshasa, Congo, the Kenyan Delegation was presented by me accompanied by Mr. Polycarp Matara, who is a Clerk Assistant. The purpose of the miss…

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, this issue is very dear to me. I was in DRC Congo nominated by former President Uhuru Kenyatta and the late right Hon. Raila Odinga to support the country for the formation of the first government of President Tshisekedi. I feel sad looking at these countries and seeing what they are going through especially the political instability of the country. The African countri…

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Since there are no Senators wishing to contribute, I call upon the Mover to reply.

States, will greatly impact the refugees in these refugee camps. This is because a lot of funding will be cut short. It is about time now that we start thinking as individual African countries and especially those countries within the Great Lakes Region, and what we can do to meet what this donor was contributing. I know that if funding from the United States will be cut, our women and children w…

Hon. Senators, it is now 1.00 p.m., time to adjourn the Senate. The Senate, therefore, stands adjourned until later today, Wednesday, 19th November 2025 at 2.30 p.m. The Senate rose at 1.00 p.m.