National Assembly · Afternoon Sitting

Hon. Members, you will recall that on Wednesday, 12th June 2024, the House rejected the Senate’s amendments to the National Rating Bill, (National Assembly Bill No.55 of 2022) . Consequently, the said Bill was referred to a Mediation Committee in accordance with Article 112 of the Constitution and Standing Order 149. Hon. Members, Article 113 of the Constitution requires that whenever a Bill is r…

Leader of the Majority Party. Chairperson of the Public Debt and Privatisation Committee.

[(Loud consultations)]

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I beg to lay the following Paper on the Table: Report of the Public Debt and Privatisation Committee on its consideration of the Consolidated Funds Services for the Supplementary Estimates I of Financial Year 2024/2025. Thank you, Hon. Speaker.

Leader of the Majority Party.

[(Loud consultations)]

Hon. Osoro!

Do you have any brief for the Leader of the Majority Party? We will come back to that. Leading Clerk-at-the-Table, call the next Order.

Hon. Speaker, I beg to give notice of the following Motion: THAT, this House adopts the Report of the Public Debt and Privatisation

As we wait for the Leader of the Majority Party, let us go to the next Order.

[(Hon. Speaker consulted with the leading Clerk-at-the-Table)]

Hon. Osoro, do you have the Papers to lay?

Yes, Hon. Speaker.

Go ahead and lay them.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table: Reports of the Auditor-General and Financial Statements of the National Governments Constituencies Development Fund (NG-CDF) for the year ended 30th June 2023 and the certificates therein, in respect of the following constituencies:

Next Order.

Hon. Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request for a statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Communication, Information and Innovation regarding compensation to customers by internet service providers during internet outages. Hon. Speaker, in today’s digital era, reliable internet access is no longer a luxury but a necessity as wa…

internet service providers (ISPs) fail to deliver consistent and uninterrupted services, customers face significant inconvenience, productivity losses and disruptions to their lives. Notably, internet outages result in customers being unable to utilise their internet bundles, which are in most cases non-renewable upon expiration. This invariably occasions undue benefits to internet service provide…

Hon. Irene Mayaka, Nominated Member. No! Hold on. I will refer the request for statement by Hon. Dorice to the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Communication, Information and Innovation. Who is that? Hon. KJ, can you bring the response in two weeks’ time?

Hon. Speaker, this is a very serious issue that has been raised by the Member for Kisii County. I can assure this House that the Committee will deliver a response to this statement request. Thank you very much, Hon. Speaker.

Hon. Dorice, two weeks. Next is Hon. Irene Mayaka.

Hon. Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request for a statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee of Sports and Culture regarding the eight Kenya Under-17 Women National Team players who are scheduled to travel to the Dominican Republic to represent the country at the Under-17 Women’s World Cup in November. This prestigious event is an exc…

[(Hon. Caroline Ng’elechei and other Members consulted loudly)]

Order, Hon. Members. Order, Hon. Ng’elechei. Take your seat. That excitement should be exhibited out there. Allow the Member to prosecute her request for statement.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker, for intervening. It is unfortunate to note that the Kenyan players (Under-17) are yet to report to camp whereas teams from other qualifying nations, including Zambia and Nigeria, are already at the

camp. Furthermore, it is important to note that the timing of this event coincides with the Kenya Certificate of Secondary Education (KCSE). This poses a significant challenge to our players. It is imperative that we support our young and ambitious players in their dual pursuit of academic excellence and sporting success, just like the renowned player Yamal, who played in the Euro Cup. He had fin…

Thank you, Hon. Irene. Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Sports and Culture. Wapi Mhe. Dan Wanyama? Is there any member of the Committee in the House? The Clerk-at-the-Table will communicate for him to bring a response in two weeks’ time. Hon. Brighton Yegon. In the norms of Parliament, you must first apologise for coming in late and then proceed to request for a statement. We have called…

Thank you very much, Hon. Speaker. I apologise for coming in late. Hon. Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request for a statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security regarding the mysterious disappearance of Ms. Frenda Chepng’eno. Ms. Frenda Chepng’eno of Identity Card Number 38184308, a 4th-year st…

Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Security. Hon. Tongoyo, is that your Committee? When can you bring a response?

Hon. Speaker, you may need to guide me. Such statement is normally signed by the Cabinet Secretary and, at the moment, we do not have a substantive one. Hopefully, Parliament will be able to vet them…

Order, Hon. Tongoyo. There is a Principal Secretary in that Ministry. This is about the disappearance of a student. It is not like any other request for statement that we have been requested to give. I give you a week to bring a response.

I am well guided, Hon. Speaker.

Yes, Hon. Oundo. Give him the microphone.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Before we went for recess and the fires that happened on the 25th, I had requested for a statement from the Departmental Committee on Defence that is chaired by Hon. Tongoyo. We had agreed that he would submit the statement once we resumed sittings yesterday. I have patiently sat here, but did not hear anything. I hope that, as you have directed him to bring the other one …

Was your request directed to the Departmental Committee on Defence or Internal Security?

It was directed to the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security, Hon. Speaker. I am sorry.

You had said ‘defence.’ Hon. Tongoyo, attend to that one as well. Yes, Hon. Mule.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Before we went on recess, I had requested for a statement from the Departmental Committee on Transport and Infrastructure regarding the bridge connecting Thika East and Matungulu Constituencies that was washed away during the floods. Until now, we have not received a response and yet, very little work has been done. I can assure you that the connectivity between Kiambu and…

I have no such communication. Where is Hon. GK of Ndia? The Clerk-at- the-Table will communicate that to the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Roads and Public Works. We will now move to responses to statement requests. Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security, are you ready?

Yes, I am, Hon. Speaker.

That is a statement that was sought by Hon. Dorice Donya.

Yes, Hon. Speaker. I have a response to the statement that was requested by Hon. Dorice Donya, Member for Kisii County, regarding the death of two persons, Lucas Nyangau Miruka Ombui and Obure Makabe. Hon. Speaker, the body of the late Mr. Lucas Nyangau Ombui Miruka was discovered at a roadside in Nyabiore Market within Magenche Ward on 30th March 2024, at around 4 p.m. as per OB 02/30/03/2024 of…

[(Mr. Richard Osoro)]

Hon. Dorice.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. It is a blatant lie that it was a natural death. He has just lied!

Lie is not a parliamentary language.

They have not told the truth. They have given the opposite of what happened. The Statement is not true.

Hon. Tongoyo, are you telling Parliament untruths?

No, Hon. Speaker. It is according to the report that was given by the officers. There is a post-mortem report and we will furnish the Member with a copy.

Hon. Dorice, if you have any issues, when we resume having cabinet secretaries coming to answer questions, you are at liberty to file a question to interrogate the cabinet secretary, if you are not satisfied with the response to the request for statement. Next is the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Transport and Infrastructure. Do you have the response? Go ahead. That is a response t…

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. First, regarding the question by Hon. Mule, I want to communicate that we will be meeting the transport agency and the Ministry of Roads this Thursday. We will then respond to the question next week. Hon. Speaker, on Thursday, 18th April 2024, the Member for Likoni Constituency, Hon. Mishi Mboko, requested for a statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee…

Hon. Komingoi, have you finished? Mheshimiwa Mishi.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I appreciate the response which has been given by the Chairperson of the relevant Committee. Can I ask a complimentary question to get some substantiation and clarity?

You can seek clarification on the Statement given.

From the second response, you indicated that the possible commencement date for the construction is October 2025. How do you explain the discrepancy that the loan was first disbursed in 2020 and the project will begin in 2025? In addition, the loan term was 40 years, with a grace period of 12 years from 2020, which means the first repayment will be due in 2032. We are in 2024 and the commencement …

Hon. Komingoi.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. It is imperative to note that while we discussed this with Hon. Mishi Mboko, we agreed that the earliest commencement opportunity we have is 2025. What we put before the Ministry is to make sure that the works are expedited to make sure that they are completed within the eight-year window. Secondly, in the next meeting, we will respond on whether the National Treasury wil…

Hon. Mishi, are you satisfied?

Hon. Speaker, I am satisfied but I also want to know who the consultants on the ground are so that key stakeholders like myself who is representing the people of Likoni can get to know them and understand what they are doing on the ground.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker.

Yes, Hon. Komingoi.

Let me assure the Member that we can get those details as soon as they are made available to the Committee and submit to her for the purposes of proper engagement with the stakeholders and the leadership within Mombasa County, specifically Likoni Constituency. Thank you, Hon. Speaker.

Next is yourself again, Hon. Komingoi, on the Statement Request by Hon. Amina Mnyazi. Are you ready?

Yes, Hon. Speaker. On Tuesday, 30th April 2024, the Member for Malindi, Hon. Amina Mnyazi, requested for a Statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Transport and Infrastructure regarding the status of issuance of Seafarers’ Identity Document (SIDs) . Hon. Amina Mnyazi specifically requested for details regarding the following issues:

[(Loud consultations)]

Order. Hon. Jehow, this is not a public baraza. Go on, Hon. Komingoi.

Hon. Speaker, the Ministry stated that the procurement of the SIDs was facing challenges due to non-responsive tenders, with the initial phase of tendering having been closed due to the following reasons:

Hon. Amina, are you satisfied?

Hon. Speaker, I have no further questions.

Thank you. Next is a request for statement by Hon. Rael Kasiwai.

Is it Hon. Komingoi again?

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. On Thursday, 2nd May 2024, the Member for West Pokot County, Hon. Rael Kasiwai, requested for a statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Transport and Infrastructure regarding the state of Kapenguria-Lodwar Road. In the request for statement, she sought to establish:

Hon. Kasiwai, Member for West Pokot. Is she here? You have heard the response. Give her the microphone.

Hon. Speaker, the answer is okay even though I am waiting to see it in action. Thank you.

On a point of order, Hon. Speaker.

Thank you. Next Order. Hold on. Yes, Hon. Clive.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I rise to follow up on a statement that I sought on 2nd May regarding the status of the Kenya Digital Economy Acceleration Project. I sought it from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Communication, Information and Innovation. This is a follow-up on what happened with the World Bank component of US$380 million disbursed in 2023. When I sought that statement …

Is he here?

Yes.

Hon. K.J.

Hon. Speaker, it is true that we had given a commitment of two weeks. The Committee is considering the matter. But because of the disruptions that have been there, in terms of workings of our Committee, it has taken a bit longer than we expected. In a week and a half, we shall present our response on the statement that had been sought by the Hon. Member. We give him our assurance. Thank you.

Next Order.

Hon. Members, on the request of Leader of the Majority Party, I will re- arrange the Order Paper a little so that Order No.10 precedes Order No. 9. Leading Clerk-at-the- Table, call out Order No.10. When we will be done with it, we will go back to Order No. 9.

This is to the Hon. Members whose names are on my screen. If you had logged in to speak on Order No.9, you may log out so that we have new interest on the Motion on the Senate Amendments to the Conflict of Interest Bill.

Hon. Speaker, I beg to move the following Motion:

THAT, the Senate amendments to the Conflict of Interest Bill, (National Assembly Bill No. 12 of 2023), be now considered. Hon. Speaker, pursuant to Standing Order 48…

Hold on a bit, Leader of the Majority Party. Take your seat. Order, Hon. Members. I will take you back to Order No. 3. Those Members who are on your feet, take the seats nearest to you. Hon. Muthoni, take the nearest seat. Hon. Millie, do the same.

[(Several Members stood along the aisle)]

[(Loud consultations)]

Hon. Members, I have a Message to convey from His Excellency the President. It is on the nomination of persons for appointment to offices of cabinet secretaries. Standing Order 42 (1) relating to Messages from the President provides that the Speaker shall read to the House any Message from the President that is delivered to the Speaker for communication to the House. In this regard, I wish to con…

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