National Assembly · Afternoon Sitting

Hon. Speaker, I beg to give notice of the following Motion: THAT, aware that Article 43 (1) (a) of the Constitution provides that every person has the right to the highest attainable standard of health, which includes the right to health care services; further aware that the Government committed to accelerating attainment of Universal Health Coverage (UHC) to ensure all Kenyans have access and re…

Thank you, Hon. Sabina Chege. Next.

Hon. George Murugara. Question 003/2025

Hon. Speaker, could the Teachers Service Commission—

Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Education. Where is Hon. Julius Melly? Is there any Member of the committee present? Hon. Tonkei, are you a Member of the Committee?

Yes, Hon. Speaker.

Tell your Committee to bring a response in two weeks’ time.

Noted, Hon. Speaker.

Hon. Barongo Nolfason, Member for Bomachoge Borabu, you look startled.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I have a Statement Request.

Yes, that is why I called you.

[(Laughter)]

Hon. Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request for a Statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Affairs regarding the dismissal

of Mr Japhet Mochama Mauti (Force No.90638 and Identification Card No.25917223) from the National Police Service. On 21st November 2016, the National Police Service Commission interdicted Mr Japhet Mochama Mauti for allegedly being found in possession of 720 rounds of 7.62 mm ammunition and five litres of rifle cleaning oil without proper authorisation. It is unfortunate that Mr Mauti remains int…

Thank you, Hon. Barongo. Could you make an undertaking, Hon. Tongoyo? Give him the microphone.

Thank you. I have the microphone now. I can respond hopefully on Thursday next week.

It is so directed. Next is Hon. Rebecca Tonkei, Member for Narok County.

Hon. Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I request for a Statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Education regarding primary schools in Turkana Central Constituency which have been submerged due to rising water levels in Lake Turkana. In recent years, the effects of climate change have become more evident with countries experiencing extreme w…

Chairperson of Departmental Committee on Education, Hon. Melly. Hon. Tonkei, will you bring a report in two weeks’ time?

Yes, Hon. Speaker.

Thank you. Hon. Members, allow me to acknowledge the presence of teachers of Chepngoror Secondary School from Ainabkoi Constituency, Uasin Gishu County. On my behalf and your behalf, we welcome them to the House of Parliament.

Next is the Member for Suna West, Hon. Peter Masara.

Hon. Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request for a statement from the Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Education and Research regarding capitation to schools, textbook ratio to pupils, and the state of Early Childhood Development Education (ECDE) programmes. Hon. Speaker, the country has made remarkable strides in expanding access to education…

Thank you, Hon. Masara. Hon. Tonkei, the Request has been directed to the Departmental Committee on Education and Research. There is a joyrider in the person of Hon. Muthoni. Please, proceed, Hon. Muthoni.

Hon. Speaker, I thank the Member who has requested for the Statement. It is important for county governments to take full responsibility of the ECD classes and make sure that they rationalise the payment of their teachers to make it uniform across all counties. Additionally, as he indicated, the Government

should consider increasing capitation to both primary and secondary schools. This is because of the high cost of food and other amenities. Thank you, Hon. Speaker.

Hon. Tonkei, how much time do you require?

Hon. Speaker, I appreciate the concerns raised by Hon. Members. This shows the seriousness people have towards the education sector. We will respond in two weeks’ time. Thank you.

Thank you.

Member for Mwea, Hon. Mary Maingi.

Hon. Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request for a Statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Trade, Industry and Cooperatives regarding importation of rice into the country. Hon. Speaker, rice is the third most consumed cereal crop in the country after maize and wheat. A study conducted by the Sustainable Trade Initiative on Mwea …

Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Trade, Industry and Cooperatives, Hon. Marianne.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Two weeks is adequate for us to respond.

Two weeks it is. Hon. Stephen Mogaka, Member for West Mugirango.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker, for giving me this opportunity. I request that you defer my request for Statement to a later date because I do not have an approved copy.

What did you say? I am sorry I did not hear you.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker.

Do you want your request for Statement to be deferred?

Hon. Speaker, I plead that you defer my request for Statement.

To when?

Later today or tomorrow. It is ready. I just need five minutes.

So, tomorrow afternoon?

Yes, Hon. Speaker.

[(Request for a Statement deferred)]

Hon. Irene Mayaka.

Hon. Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request for a Statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Tourism and Wildlife regarding the declaration of certain areas in Nyamira County as protected areas and national monuments. Tourism is a key driver of our economy and a significant contributor to economic activity. Nyamira County is fortu…

We will make sure that you get a response this time round. Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Tourism and Wildlife. Where is Hon. Kareke Mbiuki? Is any Member of the Committee present? Hon. Naomi, can you relay the message to the Chair of the Committee?

I will do so, Hon. Speaker.

We have already requested for many responses to be brought in two weeks’ time. Therefore, we will give this one three weeks.

Most obliged, Hon. Speaker.

Hon. Omboko Milemba, Member for Emuhaya.

Hon. Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I request for a Statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning regarding delay in disbursement of funds for the Teacher's Medical Scheme. Prior to 2015, teachers received a medical allowance enabling them to access healthcare services through private insurance or out-of-pocket pa…

Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Education. Did you ask for the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning.?

Yes, but I feel that the request should have been directed at the Departmental Committee on Education.

It should have been referred to the Departmental Committee on Education but you chose...

I thought it should have gone to the Departmental Committee on Education but the drafter of the request indicated the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning. The Departmental Committee on Education would be the correct one.

I thought so too. Where is the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning? I direct you to bring a response on Thursday next week.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I thank the Member for making that very important request. I also thought that the request should be referred to the Departmental Committee on Education unless the Member has information that the money has not been released from the National Treasury to the Ministry of Education.

Member for Emuhaya, I honestly think you should have directed your request to the Departmental Committee on Education, otherwise, you will enjoy a ping-pong from one office to another.

Hon. Speaker, I plead that you redirect the request to the Departmental Committee on Education.

I order that the request be directed to the Departmental Committee on Education. Are there Members present from the Departmental Committee on Education? Where is Hon. Tonkei? She has left. Hon. Masara, are you in the Departmental Committee on Education?

[(Hon. Peter Masara spoke off the record)]

Hon. Speaker, give me one minute to say something on the request for Statement by Hon. Milemba.

Go ahead.

Hon. Speaker, I am imploring you. Teachers’ suffering on issues of insurance and healthcare should not be taken lightly. Those people are on the ground serving our children. If their insurance cover is not in place or their money is not being remitted on time, it brings suffering to them. Teachers are guardians to very many people. The society is unwell when the health of teachers is in trouble. D…

Thank you. Hon. Naomi Waqo, can you inform the Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Education to bring a response on Thursday next week?

I will do so due to the seriousness of this matter.

Next Order.

Hon. Okuome, take your seat. Let us put the Question first. I will give you a chance. Order, Members on your feet! Take your seats.

[(Several Members walked into the Chamber)]

[(Question put and agreed to)]

[(The Bill was read a Second Time and Committed to Committee of the whole House)]

Order, Hon. Member on your feet! Take your seat.

[(Question put and agreed to)]

[(The Bill was read a Second Time and Committed to Committee of the whole House)]

Order, Member of Parliament for Vihiga! Take your seat.

[(Question put and agreed to)]

[(The Bill was read a Second Time and Committed to Committee of the whole House)]

Yes, Hon. Wamboka, Member of Parliament for Bumula.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I rise on a point of order under Standing Order 83 as read together with Standing Orders 217 and 232. It is on a matter for which I seek clarification. Indeed, you ruled and directed the Liaison Committee to deal with Budget issues a couple of days ago. I am aware that the tenure of our 18 committees lapsed. Unfortunately, the tenure of all Committees of Members and Chair…

Call out the next Order, Order 11.

Mover.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the National Police Service Commission (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bill No. 23 of

back to universities and trained. This Bill will allow them to be employed at the NPSC as counsellors who can help their colleagues when they face such problems. Several organisations participated at the Committee level, including the NPSC, the Law Society of Kenya (LSK) and the Inspector-General and they all agreed that this law needs to be passed like yesterday. I know that the Parliamentary c…

Hon. Shinali.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I want to begin by congratulating my colleague, Hon. Peter Masara, for coming up with this Bill to fill the gap that the National Police Service Commission Bill has not looked at. You and I are not new to this problem because we both served in the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Affairs in the last Parliament. First, I want to look at the tr…

I beg to second.

Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security, Hon. Gabriel Tongoyo.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for giving me this opportunity to contribute to this very important Bill. At the outset, I want to express my gratitude and appreciation to Hon. Masara for burning the midnight oil, traversing the whole country and researching intensively to bring this piece of legislation to being. Hon. Masara and I serve in the same Committee. The Member convinced us and majori…

Thank you, Chairperson. Hon. Geoffrey Mulanya.

Thank you for giving me the opportunity to also add my voice to this Bill. This is one of the Bills that the country has been waiting for a very long time. Instead of having too many taskforces every time we have issues

regarding the welfare and wellness of the police, this is the right procedure where we have regulations to govern the welfare of police officers. In particular, I support the introduction of Section 12(a)(f). It tries to streamline the procedures of orderly room proceedings, what we call disciplinary proceedings, when there is an issue affecting a police officer. Some of us who are practising adv…

On a point of order.

Hon. Timothy Toroitich, are you on a point of order?

I do not want to interrupt my colleague Hon. Mulanya. Hon. Temporary Speaker, I rise pursuant to Standing Order 35 on quorum. This is a very important Bill that requires significant number of Members to be in the House to debate it.

Ring the Quorum Bell for ten minutes. There appears to be no quorum.

[(The Quorum Bell was rung)]

[(The Quorum Bell was rung)]