National Assembly · Afternoon Sitting

Wednesday, 30 November 2022

Session Summary

Members debated an amendment to the County Governments Additional Allocation Bill, highlighting that the conditional grant for county headquarters had excluded Tharaka‑Nithi and urging equitable sharing among the five beneficiary counties. The Committee reported the Bill with amendments, motions were moved for agreement, and procedural issues—including the absence of the Majority Leader—delayed final adoption of the question. Members raised points of order concerning five constituencies that had not submitted their names to the NG‑CDF, leading to a dispute over the use of the term “lazy” to describe them. Hon. Musa Sirma agreed to withdraw the wording and rephrase it, while Hon. Ojiambo Oundo clarified that MPs do not submit committee member names under the NG‑CDF Act. The Temporary Speaker managed the procedural debate and called for apologies and corrections. Members debated the National Agricultural Policy sessional paper, with Hon. Kimani urging its passage to boost agriculture and Hon. Kitany supporting it, while Hon. Sunkuli questioned the paper’s legal status and the government’s commitment to implement its policies, especially for livestock. The discussion highlighted concerns over market monopolies, the need for extension services, and the importance of livestock to the economy.

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Hon. Speaker

Hon. Members, I have three Communications; one long and two short ones. The Members entering into the Chamber can take the nearest available free seat.

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memorandum in the manner prescribed in the schedule, for tabling in the House. Upon receipt of the Statutory Instrument and the memorandum, the Clerk shall enter the instrument into the register required to be maintained under the Act. Hon. Chepkonga noted that even as early as 2014, the then Speaker took notice of the practice adopted by regulation making bodies of neglecting or failing to trans…

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definition is unequivocal. Any instrument said to be made pursuant to a power granted to an Act of Parliament must be brought to Parliament for scrutiny. With regard to the second issue, I agree with the concern of Members on the neglect or failure by regulation making bodies to transmit statutory instruments to the House for scrutiny. Having guided that any instruments said to be made pursuant t…

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Hon. Members, as you are all aware, the 13th Parliament was inaugurated on 8th September 2022, after which an induction workshop of all Members was undertaken here in Nairobi. In keeping with the tradition within the Commonwealth, the National Assembly, in conjunction with the Commonwealth Parliamentary Association (CPA), has organised a four-day post-election seminar from 30th January 2023 to 3rd…

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Hon. Boss Shollei (Uasin Gishu, UDA)

Hon. Speaker, I beg to give notice of the following Motion: That, this House notes the Report on the 61st Session of the Organisation of African Caribbean and Pacific States Parliamentary Assembly and the 42nd Session of the African, Caribbean and Pacific, and European (ACP- EU) Joint Parliamentary Assembly (JPA) held in Maputo, Mozambique from 25th October to the 2nd of November 2022 laid on the…

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Next, the Chairperson of the Committee on Delegated Legislation.

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Hon. Ruku GK (Mbeere North, DP)

I beg to give notice to the following Motion:

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Hon. Ruku GK (Mbeere North, DP)

That, this House adopts the Report on the Committee on Delegated Legislation on its consideration of the Public Finance Management Regulations 2022, laid on the Table of the House on Wednesday, 30th November 2022 and pursuant to the provisions of Section 24(4) of the Public Finance Management Act, 2012, approves the Public Finance Management Regulations 2022 published as a Legal Notice No.54 on 1s…

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Next is the Chairperson, the Departmental Committee on Energy, but we will defer that. Next Order.

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Hon. Members, let us go to Questions. Member for Kuresoi, Hon. Joseph Tonui’s Question is deferred.

[(Question 059/2022 deferred)]

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Hon. Charles Ong’ondo (Kasipul, ODM)

Yes, I am present. Hon. Speaker, thank you for giving me the opportunity to ask the Cabinet Secretary for Energy and Petroleum the following Question:

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Thank you, Hon. Were. The Chairperson, the Departmental Committee on Energy will respond accordingly. Member for Wajir County, Fatuma Jehow. Question 064/2022

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Hon. Fatuma Jehow (Wajir, ODM)

Hon. Speaker, I beg to ask the Cabinet Secretary for Energy and Petroleum regarding the power blackouts in Wajir the following Question:

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Thank you, Hon. Member. The next Question by Naomi Waqo, Member for Marsabit County, is deferred on her request. Question 074/2022

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Hon. Musa Sirma (Eldama Ravine, UDA)

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Hon. Speaker, I beg to move

That, this House approves the Report of the Select Committee on the National Government Constituencies Development Fund, laid on the Table of the House on Tuesday, 29th November 2022, and pursuant to the provisions of Section 43 (4) of the National Government Constituency Development Fund Act, 2015 and paragraphs 5 (2) and (10) of the National…

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I am advised that you started by saying:

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Hon. Musa Sirma (Eldama Ravine, UDA)

Adopts.

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Yes. You can put it on record accordingly.

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Hon. Musa Sirma (Eldama Ravine, UDA)

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Hon. Speaker, I beg to move

That, this House adopts the Report of the Select Committee on the National Government Constituencies Development Fund, laid on the Table of the House on Tuesday, 29th November 2022, and pursuant to the provisions of Section 43 (4) of the National Government Constituency Development Fund Act, 2015 and Paragraphs 5 (2) and (10) of the National Government Constituencies Development Fund Regulations, …

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim)

It says expressly:

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Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA)

Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Chairperson. We are privy to the amendment by Hon. Kareke Mbiuki. It came to the Committee and we checked the issue and we do not have a problem with the proposed amendment. To put more light into it, five counties were to benefit from the conditional grant from the national Government, in regard to building their headquarters. Tharaka-Nithi is part of the five …

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Hon. Temporary Chairperson (Hon. Farah Maalim)

Fair enough. In that case, let us have the Mover to move the amendment.

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Hon. Kareke Mbiuki (Maara, UDA)

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Hon. Chairperson, I beg to move

That, the First Schedule to the Bill be amended in column B—

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Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA)

Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Chairperson. I am looking at the Bill from the Senate on the five counties that were to benefit from the

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construction of headquarters. Just to bring Members to speed, by the time we began the model of county governments, some of counties inherited the former district commissioners’ offices as their headquarters. Unfortunately, five counties neither had premises to renovate or occupy. The national Government gave them a conditional grant; which they have been receiving for the last six years. These co…

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Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA)

Hon. Chairperson, I beg to move that the Committee do report to the House its consideration of the County Governments Additional Allocation (No.2) Bill (Senate Bill No.4 of 2022) and its approval thereof without amendments. The Temporary Chairperson : With amendments.

[(Hon. Farah Maalim)]

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Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA)

Sorry, with amendments because of the amendments by the Member for Maara Constituency. The Temporary Chairperson: : Hon. Members, I now put the Question, for reporting.

[(Hon. Farah Maalim)]

[(Question proposed)]

[(Question put and agreed to)]

[[The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) in the Chair]]

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim)

I call upon the Chairperson of the Budget and Appropriations Committee to report to the House.

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Hon. Abdullahi Sheikh (Mandera North, UDM)

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to report that the Committee of the whole House has considered the County Governments Additional Allocation (No.2) Bill, (Senate Bill No.4 of 2022) , and approved the same with amendments.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim)

The Mover of the Bill to move agreement with the report.

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Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA)

Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said Report. I also request Hon. Abdullahi to second the Motion for agreement with the report of the Committee of the whole House.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim)

Hon. Abdullahi, you have the floor.

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Hon. Abdullahi Sheikh (Mandera North, UDM)

Thank you Hon. Temporary Speaker, for giving me this opportunity. I second.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim)

Fair enough. I think we are through except for putting the Question for adoption which will be deferred. I will propose the Question. I have proposed but I will not put the Question for obvious reasons. I will put it tomorrow. Is tomorrow okay? Tomorrow it will be in the Order Paper for the final bit of putting the Question. Next Order!

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[(Putting of the Question deferred)]

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim)

Where is the Leader of the Majority Party? Hon. Ndindi Nyoro, where is the Leader of the Majority Party? This is the only business remaining for the rest of the day. It will not reflect well on us, if he is not here to move this Motion. Do you wish to move the Motion on his behalf?

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Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA)

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I see the Deputy Whip of the Majority Party is here. Give us one minute to consult.

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Hon. Millie Odhiambo-Mabona (Suba North, ODM)

On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim)

Deputy Whip of the Majority Party, will you be able to move the Motion on behalf of the Leader of the Majority Party? What is your point of order, Hon. Millie Odhiambo? I previously knew you as the Member of Parliament for Mbita Constituency. I do not know where you are now.

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Hon. Millie Odhiambo-Mabona (Suba North, ODM)

I am the Member of Parliament for Suba North Constituency. It is the same Mbita but the name has now changed to Suba North just to acknowledge that we are Subas.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim)

Please, proceed.

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Hon. Millie Odhiambo-Mabona (Suba North, ODM)

Hon. Temporary Speaker, while they are still worried about what to do, I just want to indicate that if they do not have anything to move at the moment, you could use your discretion under Standing Order 1 to allow me to raise the issue of growing insecurity in Suba North. Two young men have been killed in the last two weeks. Fortunately, we have had---

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Maalim)

The Deputy Whip of the Majority Party is ready to move. Proceed.

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Hon. Millie Odhiambo-Mabona (Suba North, ODM)

Hon. Temporary Speaker, if she had not been ready, I would have raised the issue of insecurity in Suba North.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim)

You have made your point. I am sure the people of Suba North are watching how serious you are when it comes to representing them here. Please proceed, Hon. Naomi Waqo.

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Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA)

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for your indulgence. The Deputy Whip of the Majority Party was well-briefed and was ready to move the Sessional Paper.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim)

It is not your tradition to be away when you are supposed to move something. I understood that you must have been behind here doing something else.

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Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA)

Yes, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I was following up on some papers that we were waiting for. With your indulgence, I beg to lay the following papers on the Table:

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim)

Proceed, Deputy Whip of the Majority Party.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim)

Hon. Members, the time being 6.12