National Assembly · Morning Sitting

Wednesday, 5 March 2025

Session Summary

Hon. Mary Njoroge advocated for amending the education law to establish Sub-County Education Boards, arguing that this will streamline reporting, reduce backlogs, and improve oversight of schools. She emphasized inclusive composition, gender balance, minimum qualifications, and modest allowances, highlighting expected gains in efficiency, reduced bureaucracy, and greater community involvement. Members debated the inequitable allocation of teacher slots in Tharaka counties and called for empowered sub‑county education boards to address local staffing and resource issues. Hon. Beatrice Elachi highlighted systemic problems in the Ministry of Education, especially regarding the new Competency‑Based Curriculum, and urged reforms to improve oversight, funding transparency, and fee structures. The discussion combined criticism of current practices with proposals for structural changes to ensure equity and accountability. Hon. Adan Keynan criticised the current Competency Based Curriculum and bureaucratic reforms, while lauding recent teacher recruitment efforts in Northern Kenya and thanking President Ruto. The debate then shifted to Hon. Mugambi Rindikiri’s support for a new Education Board Bill aimed at improving coordination among the TSC, Ministry of Education and other stakeholders, enhancing resource allocation, and addressing equity and inclusivity in hardship areas. Overall, members expressed both dissatisfaction with existing challenges and optimism about the proposed institutional reforms.

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The Temporary Speaker

Hon. Members, we shall ring the Quorum Bell for 10 minutes. During that period, no Member is allowed to leave the Chamber. Hon. DK and the other Member at the back, Hon. Makilap, you have to come back into the Chamber. No one will leave the Chamber until the Quorum Bell stops ringing. You can cross the aisle any way you want, but you cannot leave the Chamber.

[(The Quorum Bell was rung)]

[(Hon. David Kiplagat and Hon. Joseph Makilap attempted to leave the Chamber)]

[(The Quorum Bell was rung)]

[(Several Members spoke off record)]

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng')

The Quorum Bell can now be stopped. I confirm that we have a quorum. Members can now take their seats. Hon. Members, I have confirmed that we have a quorum. Hon. Wamboka, it is not your job to look for the Quorum of the House. You are completely out of order, Hon. Jack Wamboka; totally out of order! You are so out of order, Hon. Wamboka. Members, take your seats. Hon. Jack Wamboka, take your seat…

[(Hon. Wanami Wamboka walked in the aisle)]

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Hon. Naomi Waqo (Marsabit County, UDA)

I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table: Reports of the Auditor-General and financial statements for the years ended 30th June 2021, 30th June 2022, and 30th June 2023, and the certificates therein, in respect of:

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng')

If you have the Order Paper, Questions will follow the pattern they appear on the last page. I hope Hon. Joyce Kamene is in the House ready with her Question. You already have the microphone with you, Hon. Joyce Kamene.

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Hon. Joyce Kamene (Machakos County, WDM)

Hon. Temporary Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request a statement from the Chairperson of the Department Committee of Health regarding the effects of the withdrawal of funding by the United States Agency for International Development (USAID) in Kenya. The abrupt suspension of US foreign aid under USAID has significantly disrupted critical programs in …

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Hon. Joyce Kamene (Machakos County, WDM)

The halting of funding has caused severe economic and social disruptions, leading to the loss of at least 35,000 jobs, both directly and indirectly, as many NGOs in the health, agriculture and education sectors, among others, rely on USAID-backed contracts. Additionally, the healthcare sector is among the most affected, with thousands of doctors, nurses, midwives and community health workers facin…

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)

Hon. Owino, go back and do the right thing. This request shall be referred to the Departmental Committee on Health. I do not see the Chairperson. Is there any Member of that Committee? Hon. Nyamai, what did you want to comment about on this one? Go ahead; you have one or two minutes.

[(Hon. Walter Owino went to the Bar and bowed to the Chair)]

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Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I want to comment on the Statement raised by Hon. Kamene, Member for Machakos County. As I congratulate her for bringing this matter to the House, I ask the Departmental Committee on Health that, as they respond to this issue, to bear in mind that there is a new world order. Withdrawal and reduction of funding is happening all over the world. It seems that the Un…

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)

Member for Nairobi, you have two minutes to comment on the request.

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Hon. Esther Passaris (Nairobi City County, ODM)

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I commend Hon. Joyce Kamene for bringing up this matter. I agree with Hon. Rachel

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Hon. Esther Passaris (Nairobi City County, ODM)

Nyamai that there is a new world order. This is a time for us as a country to reflect on how Singaporeans decided to decisively deal with corruption and the need to serve their people. Uhuru Kenyatta was the first to pronounce himself on USAID's withdrawal and the American government's withdrawal of essential funds committed to Africa.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)

Who is Uhuru Kenyatta?

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Hon. Esther Passaris (Nairobi City County, ODM)

The former President of Kenya, Hon. Uhuru Kenyatta, pronounced himself on the issue of dependence on donor aid and that we should be focussed on becoming self-sustaining. This is a wake-up call. We need to deal decisively with corruption so that we have enough resources to cope with the demands in our country. That is one area in which Singapore was successful. That will heighten the level of patr…

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)

Thank you. Members, this statement request is referred to the Departmental Committee on Health. I hope they can bring a report in the next three weeks. Before I give a chance to the Member for Nairobi again, join me in recognising and welcoming students from the following schools:

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Hon. Esther Passaris (Nairobi City County, ODM)

Hon. Temporary Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request a statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Health regarding the status of security at the Kenyatta National Hospital (KNH) . Security at healthcare facilities is foundational in providing safe and effective care. It safeguards patients, protects staff, secures assets, and ens…

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Hon. Esther Passaris (Nairobi City County, ODM)

I request a Statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Health on the

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng')

This Request for a Statement is referred to the Committee on Health. Deputy Whip of the Majority Party, I want your attention because the next time these matters come up, I will not ask the Chairpersons. I will ask you about them. The first Request for a Statement was made by the Member for Machakos County regarding the withdrawal of funds by USAID. This one is about security at KNH. Because we ca…

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Hon. Naomi Waqo (Marsabit County, UDA)

I have heard the request. I am sure that it will be responded to.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)

When?

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Hon. Naomi Waqo (Marsabit County, UDA)

Immediately after the short recess.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)

Is that three weeks from today?

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Hon. Naomi Waqo (Marsabit County, UDA)

Yes.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)

I hope the Member for Nairobi City County has noted that. The next request is from the Member for West Mugirango.

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Hon. George Gachagua (Ndaragwa, UDA)

Hon. Temporary Speaker, pursuant to Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I wish to request a Statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Transport and Infrastructure regarding the urgent need for speed bumps and other safety measures at the Equator area and Mununga stretch along the Nyahururu-Nyeri Road. The Kenya National Highways Authority (KeNHA) is responsible for developing, rehab…

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Rachael Nyamai)

Hon. Gachagua, I believe that you have finalised making the request for a Statement, and are now giving some explanation. What you have said is enough.

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Hon. George Gachagua (Ndaragwa, UDA)

Apologies, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Rachael Nyamai)

Hon. Members, I will give just one Member a chance to speak on this. Hon. Rindikiri Mugambi, would you like to comment on that request for a Statement?

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Hon. Mugambi Rindikiri (Buuri, UDA)

Yes. Eng. Gachagua has raised a very important issue for discussion in this House. In my opinion, KeNHA is quite unresponsive. There have been numerous questions posed in this House, and we have witnessed fatalities on our transnational highways, yet this organisation has taken no action. We are requesting that you issue a directive for the Cabinet Secretary responsible for transport to come here,…

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Rachael Nyamai)

Hon. Members, I do not see the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Transport and Infrastructure in the House, but the Deputy Majority Whip is here. She will transmit the request for a Statement to the Departmental Committee on Transport and Infrastructure. When will we have the response, Deputy Majority Whip?

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Hon. Naomi Waqo (Marsabit County, UDA)

To be precise, this should be after recess, which is in two weeks.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Rachael Nyamai)

A timeline of about two weeks is in order. Make sure that that information reaches the Chairperson.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Rachael Nyamai)

(Hon. Esther Passaris and Hon. Haika Mizighi consulted along the gangways)

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Rachael Nyamai)

Order, Members for Nairobi and Taveta Counties. Next Order.

[(Question put and agreed to)]

[(The Bill was read a Second Time and Committed to Committee of the whole House)]

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Hon. Gladys Boss (Uasin Gishu County, UDA)

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to give notice of the following Motion: THAT, this House adopts the Report of the Liaison Committee on its consideration of the 2025 Medium-Term Debt Management Strategy, laid on the Table of the House on Wednesday, 5th March 2025, and pursuant to the provisions of Section 15 (4) of the Public Finance Management Act 2012, and Standing Order 232 (A) (7) and (8) :

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim)

Hon. Gichimu, you have one minute. I will also give Hon. Bensuda one minute.

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Hon. Gichimu Githinji (Gichugu, UDA)

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. This Bill seeks to bring services closer to the people.

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Hon. Jayne Kihara (Naivasha, UDA)

On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim)

What is your point of order?

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Hon. Jayne Kihara (Naivasha, UDA)

My point of order is that your eyes have refused to see me.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim)

Order, Hon. Jayne Kihara. You did not have a card, and I got that information very late. I am looking at the list here. I know you are a senior Member, and I greatly respect you. You will have a moment. Please be patient; you will also have a bite. Proceed, Hon. Gichimu. You have one minute.

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Hon. Gichimu Githinji (Gichugu, UDA)

I am not sure if my time is still counting down, but I appreciate that this is an important Bill, which is why many Members wish to contribute. I believe they will still have a chance, as the Mover will reply later. I generally support the Bill, but I will consult with Hon. Wamaua regarding the composition of the board, as it exceeds what has previously been mentioned. We need to fine-tune it so t…

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim)

Hon. Kihara, you have two minutes. We will then hear from Hon. Bensuda. Please give the microphone to Hon. Kihara.

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Hon. Jayne Kihara (Naivasha, UDA)

Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I also want to applaud Hon. Wamaua for this very progressive Bill. We frequently deal with education matters at the constituency level. My main concern is with the title of the Bill; it is called the "Basic Education (Amendment) Bill." However, I believe the sub-county education boards should be responsible for overseeing basic, higher, and even TVE…

[(Technical and Vocational Education and Training)]

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Hon. Jayne Kihara (Naivasha, UDA)

Regarding the registration of schools, I want to share an example, and then I will conclude. There was a school condemned by the Ministry of Health, and it took an incredibly long time to deregister it. As a result, we had to construct a new school on that site. The process requires approval that often has to go all the way to Nakuru, which serves 11 constituencies. Changing the name of a school i…

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim)

Hon. Bensuda, you have a maximum of two minutes.

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Hon. Atieno Bensuda (Homa Bay County, ODM)

Thank you, Hon. Speaker, for giving me this opportunity. I rise to congratulate Hon. Mary Wamaua for this kind of initiative. I believe we share similar backgrounds, and you are clearly passionate about this issue. It would be criminal if a guru teacher like me does not contribute to this. I support this Bill for four main reasons. First, I support the inclusion of the Member of Parliament as an …

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim)

Hon. Tonui, take exactly one minute so that we adjourn this matter. Give Hon. Tonui one minute. Proceed.

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Hon. Joseph Tonui (Kuresoi South, UDA)

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for giving me this opportunity also to add my voice to this important Bill. First, I commend Hon. Wamaua, for coming up with this progressive Bill whose purpose is to take services closer to the people. I support all that my colleagues have said. My county, Nakuru County, is very huge; it has 11 sub-counties. Therefore, the County Education Board has a lot of w…

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim)

Order, Hon. Tonui. This Bill is still coming up for further debate. When we come back to debate it, Hon. Tonui, you will have nine minutes.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim)

Hon. Members, the time being 1.07