National Assembly · Afternoon Sitting

Hon. Members, under Section 26 of the Intergovernmental Relations Act Cap.265(f)), and in keeping with Article 187(1) of the Constitution, any transfer or delegation of powers between the national and county governments must be formally notified to this House. Sub-section 4 of the Act provides that the National Assembly shall be informed of every such decision order. It is in this spirit, that I …

In his tribute, the Rt. Ntakirutimana extolled the late Rt. Hon. Odinga as a firebrand statesman and architect of Kenya’s multi-party democracy. He hailed him as an unflinching Pan-Africanist who decried neo-colonial vestiges, championed continental self-reliance, and advanced regional integration most tangibly through the arteries of infrastructure that bind our nations. To honour this indelible…

Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table: Reports of the Auditor-General and the Financial Statement for the year ended 30th June 2025 and certificates therein with respect to:

Thank you, Hon. Naomi. Chairperson of Select Committee on Regional Integration, Hon. Mayaka.

Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table: Reports of the Select Committee on Regional Integration on:

Thank you Hon. Irene. Chairperson of the Select Committee on Members’ Services and Facilities, Hon. Gachagua.

Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Paper on the Table: The Report of the Select Committee on Members’ Services and Facilities on a study visit to the National Assembly of Zambia from 24th to 30th November

Thank you. Next Order.

Hon. Speaker, I beg to give notice of the following Motion: THAT, this House adopts the Report of the Select Committee on Regional Integration on its consideration of the amendment to Article 24 (2) (a) of the Protocol on the Establishment of the East African Community Customs Union, laid on the Table of the House on Wednesday, 5th November 2025, and pursuant to the provisions of Sections 3 and 8…

Do you have a second one? Go ahead.

Hon. Speaker, I beg to give notice of the following Motion: THAT this House adopts the report of the Select Committee on Regional Integration on its inspection visit to the East African Science and Technology Commission in Rwanda and the East African Health Research Commission in Burundi laid on the Table of the House on Wednesday, 5th November 2025. I thank you.

Next Order.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I wish to make a Statement on the Inquiry into the Pricing of Tea in Kenya, pursuant to Standing Order 44 (2) (d) . The Departmental Committee on Agriculture and Livestock has resolved to conduct an inquiry into the pricing of tea in Kenya as a result of complaints raised by Hon. Members of Parliament from factories in the west of the Rift Valley, alleging that tea factor…

Hon. Mutunga, wind up.

Yes, I want to but there are very many calls.

Your gadget is failing you.

Calls are coming in multiples.

When you are reading a Statement on your phone, you should bar incoming calls.

Okay. I was on the methodology. The second thing in our methodology is to hold meetings with the regulatory and marketing agencies, the State Department for Agriculture and Research, TBK and KTDA. The Committee shall also conduct field visits to factories in the west of the Rift. We have already done this. We shall, therefore, do a visit to the east of the Rift Valley and also conduct field visits…

Order, Members! Members on their feet, take your seats. No kamukunji in the House. Hon. Mutunga, I have followed your Statement very closely. I had also been visited severally by a team of Members led by the Kisii Woman Representative, Mama Donya. Hot on her heels was Hon. Brighton Yegon, Hon. Richard Yegon, Amb. Sigei, and many others. What you have read to the House has some truths and non-trut…

Seeing that you have taken the right step, I would advise Hon. Donya, Hon. Yegon, and Hon. Sigei to be co-opted into your Committee. I direct you to carry out that inquiry and bring back a comprehensive report to the House in three weeks. Yes, Hon. Marianne Kitany.

Hon. Speaker, I think the Committee you are proposing to be created is a good one. My only concern is that we do not have anyone from Nandi County among Members who are being co-opted. Some areas of Nandi and others have been left out. Can the list be inclusive to have representation in every tea growing county, especially in the West of the Rift Valley? Thank you.

Maybe, to the three distinguished Members from Bomet County, let one of you drop out. Hon. Sigei, you can drop out on account of seniority. Let Hon. Brighton and Hon. Richard stay.

[(Loud consultations)]

Yes.

Fine. Then we will have other Hon. Members replacing them. The issue is the East and West of the Rift Valey. Do not bombard me with counties. It is East and West of the Rift Valley. That is what Hon. Mutunga said, and it is what I have been seeing. Therefore, From Nandi County, Hon. Melly and Hon. Marianne, agree on who between you will be co-opted. Marianne? Since Kisii and Nyamira counties are …

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I rise on the ruling that you have given since I sit in the Departmental Committee on Agriculture, and also after listening to my Chairman as he gave direction that our Committee handles the issue. Now that there is co-opting, I would like to seek clarification on whether the co-opted Members have an equal vote to that of the members of the Departmental Committee on Agricu…

Whether you vote in the Committee or not, the Report will come to the House and it will become a property of this House. We are not looking for a majoritarian but a fair decision on how to handle our tea farmers. You can gang up as a majority and vote one way or the other but that will not solve the problem. We want a fair, clear explanation that can satisfy members of the public as to why we have…

Hon. Speaker, I think I have been misunderstood. I did not say we will go to any of these countries.

Take your seat, Hon. Mutunga. I have been here long enough to understand that when you mention those jurisdictions, the next day there will be a letter on my desk requesting me to allow you to go there. I am forestalling that. I will not allow you to go and study Uganda, Sri-Lanka, or India. Hon. Ngogoyo.

Hon. Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 43, I rise to make the following statement regarding the implementation of the proposed privatisation of Kenya Pipeline Company (KPC) . It is recalled that on 29th July 2025, the Cabinet approved the privatisation of KPC, and on 1st October 2025, the National Assembly approved the proposal as part of the Government Privatisation Programme…

herein, relating to the acquisition and reported merger of KPRL, and the proposed privatisation of the KPC, and report back to the House in line with the Standing Orders. This will ensure that the concerns raised are addressed even as the Government seeks to institute operational efficiency in the management of State-owned corporations, which we fully support. I thank you, Hon. Speaker.

Hon. Ngogoyo, do you know what it means to seek leave of the House? Have you looked at your Standing Orders? Let me continue mentoring you. When you want to seek leave of the House, you either enjoy the sympathy of the Speaker or your request is supported by at least five Members. Are you seeking my sympathy or do you have five Members?

I have five Members, Hon. Speaker.

Do you have five Members?

Yes.

Where are they? Take your seats. That is hurdle number one.

[(Several Members stood up in their places)]

[(Loud consultations)]

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request for a Statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security regarding the disappearance of Hon. Shadrack Maritim Cheruon from Tinderet Constituency. Hon. Maritim was reported missing on 27th October 2025, and was last seen on CCTV footage about 6.02 a.…

Where is the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security? Hon. Raso, can you bring a response next week on Wednesday?

I will do so, Hon. Speaker.

Thank you. Hon. Members, before I invite the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Transport and Infrastructure, allow me to introduce a group of 18 students from Starehe Boys Centre, Alliance High School and Kianda School who are seated in the Speaker’s Gallery. The students are in Parliament for a period of two weeks on a voluntary service scheme. This gives them an opportunity to give ba…

Hon. Speaker, we have been in touch with the Cabinet Secretary and we have a comprehensive report.

Through the Chairman?

Yes. He will deliver the report.

Can we have the comprehensive report?

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Yesterday, Hon. Bashir requested to know why the Kenya Rural Roads Authority (KeRRA) allocation to constituencies, that is the 22 per cent and 10 per cent allocation, has been reduced from Ksh62 million to Ksh36 million per constituency, as per the circular sent from the Kenya Roads Board (KRB) to regional offices. Hon. Speaker, you directed that we engage the Cabinet Sec…

Hon. Chairperson, if he has climbed down and withdrawn the letter, and you go back to the status quo ante, then there is no need to invite him. As the Oversight Committee, you just need to ensure implementation within the timelines you have been given that by Friday this week, there is action. If there is action, it purges all wrongdoings and transgressions. We can only invite him here for somethi…

Well guided, Hon. Speaker. The only issue the Cabinet Secretary needs to explain to Members is the securitisation aspect, the Ksh5 per litre which has been used to securitise resources that will help us clear the pending bills. According to the Cabinet Secretary, this will slightly reduce the allocation by not more than Ksh10 million

per constituency. I would request you, Hon. Speaker, to invite the Cabinet Secretary to explain why we need to accept that reduction because he is better placed to convince Members to accept that.

[(Loud consultations)]

I get you and I do not want to escalate this. I will look at the Hansard to compare what you said and what you are saying and I will advise you. I will summon the Cabinet Secretary early next week if I need to so that you can interrogate him. I will not allow you. Let us have Mr Ogamba to come here and deal with education issues. Order, Hon. Robert Mbui. Hon. Kariuki has said that the circular t…

[(A Member spoke off the record)]

[(Hon. Robert Mbui spoke off the record)]

[(Laughter)]

Order! Members on their feet, take your seats. Order! Hon. Hilary, you walk in and there is disorder. Let us be orderly. Next Order!

[(Question put and agreed to)]

Members, take the nearest seats.

[(Several Members walked into the Chamber)]

[(Question put and agreed to)]

Third Reading

Mover.

Hon. Speaker, I beg to move that the Pyrethrum (Repeal) Bill (National Assembly Bill No. 40 of 2024) be now read a Third Time. Just to bring to speed Hon. Speaker, this Bill was about “repealing” the Pyrethrum Bill because it was contradicting other Bills. Yesterday we had the honour to “repeal” this Bill and do away with it. I want to thank Members who contributed to this Bill as it will help us…

And for the record, you cannot repeal a Bill, you only repeal an Act so you are repealing the Pyrethrum Act. Is that correct? You have gone on record saying that you are repealing the Bill.

Can I go on record?

Yes.

Hon. Speaker, I beg to move that the Pyrethrum (Repeal) Bill (National Assembly Bill No. 40 of 2024) be now read a Third Time. I want to say that this is an Act that was in existence and we brought a Bill that repealed the Act, therefore the Act does not exist anymore.

It still exists until we finish this.

It still exists until we finish this. Thank you for the correction, Hon. Speaker.

[(Loud consultations)]

Yes, Hon. Nguna.

Hon. Speaker, I would like to confirm that I was in the House. I second what the Whip of the Majority Party has said.

Thank you. Order Members on their feet. Hon. Makali Mulu, take the nearest seat. Second Reading

[(Question proposed)]

[(Question put and agreed to)]

[(The Bill was accordingly read a Third Time and passed)]

Hon. Speaker, could the Cabinet Secretary provide:

Proceed, Hon. Cabinet Secretary. The Cabinet Secretary for Health : Thank you, Hon. Speaker and Members. I have provided the answers for the first part of the Question to the Member. Under the first question, the Member has asked about the implementation of SHIF and the analysis of its progress towards achieving Universal Health Coverage (UHC) in the country. The Social Health Insurance Act of 2…

[(Hon. Aden Duale)]

review the benefit package every two years, particularly for cancer patients. We have directed them to review the existing package limits. Our goal is to progressively enhance the oncology package limit to Ksh1 million per beneficiary from the current Ksh550, 000. If patients exhaust that limit, they can still use the Emergency, Chronic and Critical Illness Fund, which has been established by this…

If you are satisfied, we will move on.

Thank you. I have a number of questions.

Yes.

Maybe, I should continue.

Hon. Speaker, I rise to ask the Cabinet Secretary for Health the following question: Could the Cabinet Secretary—

Cabinet Secretary. The Cabinet Secretary for Health : Hon. Speaker and Hon. Members, my answer to the first question on the status of healthcare services in Kiambu County is as follows. A joint inspection by the Ministry of Health, the Kenyan Medical Practitioners and Dentist Council (KMPDC) and other regulatory bodies within our Ministry has found out that the service workload of the Outpatient…

[(Hon. Aden Duale)]

Kiambu County Referral Hospital have significantly reduced compared to the same period in the previous year, indicating a strain of service. I have shared a table comparing 2024 and 2025 in terms of visits. In June 2024, a total of 26,010 visited hospitals in Kiambu County. Compared to the same period in 2025 during the strike in June, only 17,772 visited hospitals, showing a drop of 31 per cent.…

for both maternal and newborn deaths. Notwithstanding these gaps, the County Government of Kiambu reported 164 newborn deaths during this period. It is very sad, unacceptable and immoral. It should not happen in any hospital, be it private, public or faith based. The 164 newborn deaths were recorded during the period of the strike. In the same period, 14 maternal deaths were reported. However, be…

Hon. Kawanjiku.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I have two questions in addition to what the Cabinet Secretary has answered. First, the Cabinet Secretary stated that we have collected Ksh81.3 billion under the SHA. Out of the Ksh81.3 billion, how much has been claimed by health facilities so far? Can you also state how much has gone to public hospitals and how much has been paid to private hospitals? We run the risk o…

deteriorate. There must be something that the Cabinet Secretary can do, such as calling the governor to order and ensuring that health services are delivered to the public. Even though health is devolved, the Ministry has a responsibility to ensure that the people of this country receive health services. Hon. Speaker, now that doctors are back to work and most interns were withdrawn from Kiambu C…

Waziri. The Cabinet Secretary for Health : Hon. Speaker, let me start with the second question on what the Minister can do. All I can do is taking administrative action, which I have done. Healthcare is devolved and the Legislature has oversight powers. I have contacted the Senate’s Standing Committee on Health, and the National Assembly’s Departmental Committee on Health. It is the decision of K…

[(Hon. Aden Duale)]

[(both faith- based)]

facilities, under the publicly funded free health programme, received 7 per cent, while private facilities across the country received 36 per cent of the Ksh9.8 billion disbursed for services under PHC.

Thank you, Cabinet Secretary. Member for Nyandarua, Hon. Faith Gitau.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I rise to ask the Cabinet Secretary for Health the following question: Could the Cabinet Secretary—

Waziri. The Cabinet Secretary for Health : Hon. Speaker, the Member for Nyandarua County, Hon. Faith Gitau, asked three questions. On the first question is on measures put in place to avert a potential tuberculosis crisis as many patients develop resistance. Kenya has made commendable progress in the fight against TB. We have achieved a 41 per cent reduction in TB incidence and a 65 per cent red…

[(Hon. Aden Duale)]

engagement and patient support are key interventions to ensure that patients complete treatment. Non-completion often leads to resistance. Therefore, we emphasise counselling, nutrition, and transport support through community health promoters. We have over 107,000 health promoters across the country who help us do follow-up, contact tracing and psychological care at home. Furthermore, we have en…

engaging sectors such as housing, nutrition, correctional services, and labour, guiding them on addressing the social determinants of TB. In conclusion, Hon. Gitau, we will write to the House and request for more budgetary allocations. Let it be known that TB is closely linked to poverty, poor housing, and poor nutrition. Hence, we must adopt a multi-sectoral approach and work with other stakehol…

Hon. Faith Gitau, are you satisfied?

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I would like to confirm to the Cabinet Secretary that there are no TB drugs in Nyandarua, and that most hospitals in Kenya do not have these drugs. You have stated that you are providing them free of charge. When can we expect these drugs to be available in our hospitals?

Cabinet Secretary. The Cabinet Secretary for Health : I was in Nyandarua three weeks ago. I want to assure the House that there are sufficient TB drugs in Nyandarua. I am ready to send my officers to Nyandarua with the Hon. Member to verify this information. I cannot lie here; TB drugs are available in all hospitals in Nyandarua County. Under your direction, I will dispatch the Director-General o…

[(Hon. Aden Duale)]

Fair enough. Next is Hon. Kaguchia. Question 73/2025

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Could the Cabinet Secretary in charge of Health clarify whether there is an outstanding debt amounting to Ksh450 million owed to Consolata Hospital Mathari, and Ksh433 million owed to Nyeri County hospital, including Ksh36.7 million for Mukurweini Hospital and Ksh236 million for Tumutumu Hospital?

Order, Hon. Kaguchia. That is not your question. You are not allowed to go beyond what is on the Order Paper. Just read out your question. You can ask about those other figures in your supplementary question.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Could the Cabinet Secretary—

Cabinet Secretary. The Cabinet Secretary for Health : Hon. Speaker, regarding Consolata Hospital Mathari, I first want to clarify that the NHIF legacy debt is one of the

[(Hon. Aden Duale)]

biggest issues we are facing as a country. This is making the Social Health Authority a bit bumpy—many questions raised regarding debt concern the legacy debt of the NHIF. As at 30th September 2024, when this House enacted the new Social Health Authority Act, the NHIF liability owed to Consolata Hospital Mathari stood at Ksh153 million. This facility falls under the category of health providers’ o…

services such as surgery, oncology, and dialysis. These high-complexity medical claims require a thorough medical review during the claims adjudication process to ensure compliance with established clinical, contractual, and financial requirements. They must undergo an audit. For instance, if it is an oncology claim, we must ensure the cancer patient was there and that they have gone through all …

Hon. Kaguchia.

Thank you very much, Hon. Speaker. May I start by thanking the Cabinet Secretary for the students from Kenya Medical Training College (KMTC) , Mukurweini. They have now reported and started learning today. For that reason, I thank the Cabinet Secretary on behalf of the people of Mukurweini. It is indeed true that the Cabinet Secretary has raised the concern that Consolata Hospital Mathari, PCEA T…

Leave the Chairman out for now. Chairman, prepare and bring a response next week. Cabinet Secretary. The Cabinet Secretary for Health : Hon. Speaker, SHA was enacted by this House and aligns with the Data Protection Act, 2019, as the DHA. Member for Mukurweini, I appreciate you coming to my office. I am happy that I complied with the KMTC issue. This is a Government that delivers. We serve the p…

[(Hon. Aden Duale)]

facility, whether through C-section or normal delivery, and you want SHA to pay, part of the claims document. In that case, there must be an important document known as a birth notification. If there is no birth notification, how can SHA pay you and prove that a child has been born? We should not compare SHA with the defunct, corrupt, and organisationally dysfunctional NHIF. They are worlds apart.…

Hon. Kassim Tandaza. Question 74/2025

Hon. Speaker, I rise to ask the Cabinet Secretary for Health the following question:

Order, Hon. Nabulindo and Hon. Oundo. This is not a market in your regions.

Hon. Speaker, I rise to ask the Cabinet Secretary for Health the following question:

Hon. Naisula. Question 78/2025

Hon. Speaker, I rise to ask the Cabinet Secretary for Health the following question:

Hon. Kwenya. Question 79/2025

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I beg to move the following Motion: THAT, taking into consideration the findings of the Departmental

Hon. Baya, proceed.

Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. From the onset, I take this opportunity to second this Motion that Hon. (Eng.) Michael Thoyah Kingi be appointed as a member of the SRC. Michael Thoyah Kingi was a Member of the 12th Parliament. We worked with him in this House. He also served in several committees. During his tenure in Parliament, he showed his ability to lead. I know Michael Thoyah …

[(Hon. Wanami Wamboka spoke off the record)]

As pronounced by the ‘acting Leader of the Minority Party’, I request that you go ahead and put the question.

Order, Hon. Members. Let me propose.

[(Question proposed)]

Hon. Tandaza, proceed. We give you the first chance to speak on this.

Asante, Mhe. Spika wa Muda, kwa kunipa hii fursa. Kwanza, tutambue kwamba katika Katiba yetu ya 2010, katika uteuzi wowote ambao unafanyika katika Tume, ni lazima kuwe na wakilishi wa kimaeneo. Kwa muda mrefu, Eneo letu la Pwani limeachwa nyuma katika uteuzi kama huu. Kwa hivyo, ninampongeza Michael

Kingi kwa sababu, kwa mara ya kwanza, tumepata uteuzi katika tume hii. Tangu kuanzishwa kwa tume ya SRC na nyinginezo, hatujakuwa na mwakilishi kutoka Eneo la Pwani. Pili, katika masuala ya mishahara, ni lazima kuwe na mwanahisabati pale. Mimi kama mhandisi – kama vile alivyo mhandisi Michael Kingi – litakuwa jukumu letu kuangalia zile nambari ndogo ndogo. Tutafanya hesabu ya kugawa na kuongeza k…

Put the question!

Before I put the question, I will give the chance to Hon. Fatuma Masito, Member for Kwale County. Proceed.

Ahsante sana, Mhe. Spika wa Muda. Ninampatia kongole Michael Kingi, aliyekuwa katika Bunge hili. Amepata nafasi hii na ninawaomba Wabunge wenzangu wamuunge mkono. Mbali na kuwa Mpwani na haswa, Mmijikenda, jamii yetu ilikuwa imeachwa nyuma sana. Ninamshukuru Mheshiwa Rais kwa kuwatambua Wapwani safari hii. Kila nafasi zinapotokea, tunaomba Mpwani mmoja au wawili wapate fursa ya kuteuliwa. Ningepe…

There being no more interest in this Motion, I call upon the Mover to reply.

Much appreciated, Hon. Temporary Speaker. You and I know the nominee very well. Hon. Michael Thoyah Kingi is a very sober person, looking at his record in The Hansard of the 12th Parliament. He deserves to be rewarded for his humility with such a nomination. He is not biased in his judgments. Just as Hon. Fatuma has said, I, therefore, take this opportunity to urge Members to approve his appointm…

Hon. Members, I will defer the putting of the question until tomorrow at 2.30 p.m. Next Order.

[(Putting of the Question deferred)]

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move the following Motion: THAT, further to the Resolution of the House of 19th August 2025, regarding nullification of Circular No.4 of 2025 on enforcement of compliance with the Mandatory Use of the Electronic Government Procurement System (E-GPS) and pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 209 (2) , this House adopts the Fourth Report of the Select Committ…