National Assembly · Afternoon Sitting
Wednesday, 6 November 2024
The debate focused on the Land Control Amendment Bill, with Hon. Kuria praising the inclusion of private‑sector members on constituency land boards and the new powers to investigate land fraud and protect public‑utility land. He also highlighted the need to digitise title deeds, noting long‑standing delays and procedural absenteeism that have hampered progress. Overall, the discussion was constructive about the bill’s provisions but critical of past implementation failures. Hon. Wanami Wamboka moved a motion to adopt the Public Investments Committee report, condemning stalled university construction projects, costly consultancies and severe under‑staffing in TVET institutions. He urged the Treasury, Ministry of Education and oversight bodies to enforce stricter project approval, equity and staffing policies, while the Temporary Speaker deferred the question for a later date. The afternoon sitting focused on procedural motions to amend several clauses of a Bill, with members proposing deletions, substitutions, and renumbering to align terminology with health product standards and WHO recommendations. A brief dispute arose when Hon. Francis Sigei attempted to raise a tea issue but was ruled out of order, prompting a light‑hearted response. The Temporary Speaker and Chairman managed the amendment process and ensured proper drafting.
Hon. Members, there is no quorum. Serjeant-at-Arms, ring the Quorum Bell for 10 minutes. We now have quorum. Let us proceed.
[(The Quorum Bell was rung)]
Deputy Leader of the Majority Party.
Thank you, Hon Deputy Speaker. I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table:
Next is the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning. Hon. Vice-Chairperson, do you have a Report? We can move to the next item as we wait for the Chairperson.
The first request for statement is by Hon. Peter Masara.
On a point of order, Hon. Deputy Speaker.
What is your point of order, Hon. (Dr) Oundo?
Hon. Deputy Speaker, as has been the custom in this House since the beginning of the 13th Parliament, a Cabinet Secretary normally comes to answer questions and requests for statements on Wednesday afternoons. The Cabinet Secretary for the Ministry of Roads and Transport was expected to appear here before we went on recess. However, we were informed by the Speaker that he had sought the indulgence…
Hon. (Dr) Oundo, you are right. I have a letter dated 5th November 2024 addressed to the Clerk of the National Assembly and it is signed by the Cabinet Secretary, Ministry of Roads and Transport, Mr Davis Chirchir. It states: I was scheduled to appear before the Plenary of the National Assembly on Wednesday, 6th November. However, I will be accompanying His Excellency the President to the Republic…
On a point of order, Hon. Deputy Speaker.
What is your point of order, Leader of the Majority Party?
Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. It is, indeed, true, that the Cabinet Secretary wrote to us, and I was copied in that letter. We have also since written to him requesting him to appear before the House next week, Wednesday, 13th November 2024, together with the Cabinet Secretary for Education, Mr Migos Ogamba. Now that I have the opportunity, I would like to point out that several Members whose Q…
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Basil are also absent. However, Hon. Sarah Korere is consistently in the House, and she is present today.
Let the Leader of the Majority Party finish his point of order.
Hon. Rael Kasiwai, who sits somewhere there, is not in the House. The Member for Kajiado South, Hon. Samuel Parashina, as always, is never in the House. The Member for Matuga Constituency, Hon. Kassim Tandaza, who is also the Vice-Chair of the NG-CDF Committee, is always in the House just like now. The Member for Igembe Central, Hon. Daniel Karitho, is always in the House and is here. I am on a p…
[(Hon. Sarah Korere spoke off the record)]
Hon. Members, the Leader of the Majority Party is on a point of order. Hon. Sarah Korere, you will have an opportunity. Please, hold on.
The Member for Mwingi West Constituency, Hon. Charles Ngusya (CNN) , is always in the House, but he is not in. The Member for Ikolomani Constituency, Hon. Shinali, is usually on and off in the House, and he is not here. What point am I making? Last week, we were in a leadership conference under the able leadership of the Chairperson of the Parliamentary Service Commission (PSC) , who is also our S…
[(Hon. Moses Kirima walked into the Chamber and spoke off record)]
I want to tell Chairpersons from both sides of the House to take their work seriously. If you do not, we have another 280 Members who can take those positions. Do the honourable thing if you do not have time for the House. As Hon. Junet Mohammed says, we are in a season of impeachment. I am not encouraging anyone to impeach them but, if need be, please, impeach these Chairpersons and Vice-Chairper…
[(Laughter)]
Hon. Members, what the Leader of the Majority Party has said is part of what was resolved during the leadership retreat in Naivasha. I know that Members have proposed that Chairpersons be changed. I will restrain myself from putting that question until the substantive Speaker is in the Chair.
On a point of order, Hon. Deputy Speaker.
Meanwhile, before we proceed, Member for Kitutu Masaba, what is your point of order? No! Please, sit down. There is someone else on their feet.
[(Hon. Parashina Sakimba stood up in his place)]
Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. With all due respect to the Leader of the Majority Party, I was worried whether he is in order, knowing very well that our constituents are watching us on television. Is it in order for him to name individuals and read a list whereas some of the Members he has named were here during the morning session all the way to the end? They are on their way coming and so, the…
[(Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah spoke off the record)]
Member for Kitutu Masaba, I do not think any of the Chairpersons have given you a brief to be their advocate. They will speak for themselves. Member for Kitutu Masaba, please, be seated. Yes, you do not hold brief for them. They shall respond on their own behalf. I now give this opportunity to Hon. Sarah Korere.
[(Hon. Clive Gisairo stood in his place and spoke off the record)]
Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I agree with the Leader of the Majority Party that the people who are bestowed with leadership must be held accountable. Regarding the Cabinet Secretaries, our very good friend and sister, Hon. Soipan Tuya, lost her brother and he was being buried today. I was to attend the funeral, but I cancelled. This is because the Cabinet Secretary was to appear before this Hou…
It would be good if the cabinet secretaries notified us of the cancellation in good time. We have just heard he is not coming and yet, we had the whole of yesterday. Last time, before we went on recess, the Question Time was cancelled on the last day. They should try to be sensitive because we have a lot of things to do. I know some Members who are appearing on that list are not here today because…
I think the Leader of the Majority Party has noted that. Member for Kajiado South, you are out of order for standing up before I give you an opportunity to speak. I am following the order of requests. Before you placed your request, the Member for Kitutu Masaba and Hon. Sarah Korere had already requested. So, you were third in line. When you decide to request properly, press the intervention but…
[(Hon. Parashina Sakimba stood up in his place)]
[(Hon. Parashina Sakimba spoke off the record)]
Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. My point of order is about the Office of the Clerk. We are the representatives of the people and so, when you have a Question to be answered by the Cabinet Secretary, it is from our constituents. In most cases, I alert them that on a particular day, I will be on the Floor of the House articulating the issues that have been paining them. It would be in order that onc…
Hon. Kassim Tandaza, Member for Matuga, you have made a valid point. The Leader of the Majority Party has taken note of that. The fact that Members have said it is good for them to know in due time is noted. The Leader of the Majority Party will communicate that to the members of the Executive. Hon. Members, allow me to re-order the Order Paper so that we go to Order No. 8 and then come back to S…
[(Hon. Junet Mohamed spoke off the record)]
Hon. Members, before we go to Order No. 8, I will allow the Member for Suna East to welcome our guests on our behalf. Please, make it brief.
[[The Deputy Speaker (Hon. Gladys Boss) left the Chair]]
[[The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) took the Chair]]
Hon. Deputy Speaker, I want to seek your indulgence on a matter that… Hon. Temporary Speaker, when I saw a black man, I knew there was a change of the Chair. I want to bring to the attention of the House a matter that is very important. As you are aware, our main business is legislation. One of the biggest predicaments we have faced on issues of legislation is public participation. I want the Ho…
Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Let me first commend the Leader of the Minority Party, Hon. Junet Mohamed, for raising this issue on the matter of the judgment. I also take this opportunity to commend the Supreme Court. The architecture of our Constitution, and we must thank God that under the 2010 Constitution, the Supreme Court came into being. As an advisory court, they have now set the pace…
participation exercises in the legislative processes of this House, the Senate, and our county assemblies. I want to agree with the Leader of the Minority Party that in line with Article 2 of our Constitution, the people may exercise their sovereign power either directly or through their democratically elected representatives, and those democratically elected representatives are the men and women…
tell us that: “Hatutaki wanyeshe”, while it was them that we sought to protect. It is our young mothers, daughters, our sisters we sought to protect from cheap, finished products of sanitary towels, which nobody can authenticate how hygienic they are in terms of the standards that they have been manufactured under in the West and the Far East. Some of those Far East countries have no standards. Yo…
Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I also want to join the Leader of the Minority Party and the Leader of the Majority Party in commending and appreciating the judgement that was made by the highest bench — the Supreme Court — regarding public participation. Just like the Leader of the Minority Party has said, this can only be compared to a study in jurisprudence that you and I know on …
decisions in that case. We found a positivist on the bench - and I think it was Justice King. We also found a clear naturalist and one we even never wanted to touch. This question of public participation has brought a lot of confusion within our courts. There are differences in views of the judges. One judge's view in Kajiado High Court differs from the one in Kisii, Kerugoya, Mombasa, and anothe…
Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs.
Thank you very much.
I have not allowed you to speak. It takes the Speaker to recognise you. When the Speaker does not allow you and you insist, you become disorderly and it may cost your presence this afternoon. So, you are not yet recognised. Let Hon. Murugara proceed.
Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. The issue of public participation is a very important issue in this country. We laud the Supreme Court for the interpretation and the guidance it has given to the House and to Kenyans as regards what exactly is public participation, and to what extent should this House consider views that are collected from the public during public participation. Indeed, it is t…
I have two very important things to say. The Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs has two drafts of public participation Acts which we are looking at. In fact, we had scheduled December to be our deadline so that we are able to produce something for the House to look at, but we are happy to hear the Hon. Leader of the Majority Party say that they are also working on an Act of Parlia…
Hon. Kimani Kuria, you want to speak to this? I hope you are not laying. Okay.
[(Hon. Kimani Kuria spoke off the record)]
Hon. Temporary Speaker, I want to join my colleagues in celebrating the Solomonic wisdom of the ruling by the Supreme Court of the Republic of Kenya. The reason why the Finance Bills for the last two years have become a subject of discussion in the whole country is because the Departmental Committee of Finance and National Planning made a deliberate decision that we would engage members of the pub…
President was compared to that of the President of Botswana. The difference is we have our 2010 Constitution. We have several laws in this country that spearhead such a programme and until the time when we change our Constitution or we change those particular statutes and laws, then that will be the procedure. Therefore, I am urging Kenyans that during our deliberation on the various legislative …
I will only give two more Members the opportunity to comment and then we can go back to the main business. The Hon. Deputy Leader of the Majority Party followed by Hon. Beatrice Elachi.
Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for giving me an opportunity to weigh in on what Hon. Junet has said about the ruling of the Supreme Court. It asserted the doctrine of separation of powers. It has simply demonstrated that Parliament has its work cut out for it and it should be allowed to do it. Equally, the Judiciary also has its work cut out for it and it should be allowed to do it. …
Hon. Members who are leaving, I request for your patience because we need your numbers in Order No.8. Remember, we altered the order of business to await some good numbers. So, I request that we allow Hon. Beatrice Elachi to say something on this, and then we go back to the Orders which require your numbers. I ask for your patience to stay within the Chamber.
Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Let me also appreciate the Leader of the Minority Party for bringing up this matter. I thank the Supreme Court because they have gone back to the Supreme Court Act. Indeed, the purpose of the Supreme Court is to deal with public interest. Our aspiration for this country was to have such a court. Under Section 3 (c) of the Supreme Court Act (Cap.9B) , the objects …
that have gone to the courts, one of the things that the High Court has always disregarded is public interest. What is public good? The Judiciary is an arm of Government that utilises public resources. They receive and spend the resources, and then nullify a whole Bill and yet, they have benefited from that same law. That makes one wonder what happens in our country. We have gone through a rough …
Hon. Eckomas Mwengi Mutuse.
Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for giving me the opportunity to contribute on the important issue that has been brought by Hon. Junet Mohamed. In my understanding, the Supreme Court is supposed to balance between the philosophical, technical and political interests of a country. If you look at the historical foundations of the creation of the Supreme Court, right from the United States of Amer…
we also enact one on referenda. This will ensure that our country is adequately resourced legally to deal with those two issues. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for giving me the opportunity to contribute. I also assure the House that having successfully impeached the former Deputy President, I will not impeach any other person soon because we cannot go lower than that.
Hon. Members, I think we will allow the Members who have spoken on the matter to have done so on behalf of the whole House. Call Order 8.
The Chairperson of the Select
Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I beg to reply and thank the Hon. Members for their contributions. The most important thing that I want to ask the Cabinet Secretaries and departmental heads, is that, when they do budgeting, they need to include some monies to enable the implementation of some of the resolutions. I wish to donate two minutes to Hon. Mwenje.
Hon. Raphael Wanjala, the Chairperson, Select Committee on Implementation, if you intend to donate some of your minutes, you do so before you reply. Unfortunately, those Members have now been overtaken. Therefore, go ahead and just reply.
Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to reply.
[(Question put and agreed to)]
We had re-organised the Order Paper. Could you now go back to Order 7? We pended the laying of Papers and some Statements.
Chairperson, Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning.
Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to lay the following Paper on the Table: Report of the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning on its consideration of the Equalisation Fund (Administration) Bill, (Senate Bill No.14 of 2023) .
Thank you very much. Please, go ahead and lay the Paper.
[(Hon. Kuria Kimani laid the Paper on the Table)]
Hon. Peter Francis Masara, Member for Suna West.
Hon. Temporary Speaker, allow me to first welcome the delegation from Suna West National Government Constituency Development Fund (NG-CDF) , both the committee and staff, who are today’s guests of this august House. I appreciate even those who are not here, for working so hard to make Suna West shine the way it has. Hon. Temporary Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 43, I wish t…
Leader of the Minority Party.
Hon. Temporary Speaker, I wish to give my condolences to the family of the late Princess Jully. Migori County has lost a very serious artist who used her music to teach people many things. Princess Jully, at the height of her career, when Kenyans were faced with the scourge of HIV and AIDS, came up with a set of music that has taught people how to behave and also how to make sure that Kenyans can…
With those few remarks, I thank you.
Thank you, Hon. Peter Masara, for your Statement, and thank you Leader of the Minority Party for your recognition of the late Princess Jully. On behalf of the National Assembly, we record our condolences and pray for God’s comfort and strength to the family of Princess Jully. Hon. Julius Sunkuli.
Hon. Temporary Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order, 44 (2c) , I rise to request for a statement from the Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Affairs regarding two organisations known as SOS Mission and SOS Adventure, that are operating in Kilgoris Constituency. Several concerns have been raised regarding those organisations that have established…
Is the relevant Committee Chair in the House? The Hon. Gabriel Tongoyo is not there. The able Vice-Chair, Hon. Dido Raso, is present. Would you commit on when you can give the statement?
Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I believe the matter raised by Hon. Sunkuli is a national security concern. Going further, it is within the realm of NGOs. Most likely, they might have been allowed to operate in Kenya by the NGOs Coordinating Board. We will give a brief to the House within two weeks.
Hon. Julius Sunkuli, are you satisfied with the commitment? No doubt.
Yes. Of course, the two weeks. I am not looking at it from the NGO angle but from the security angle. We do not know what those people are doing. Two weeks is a good time to do that research.
Thank you for indulging the Committee to that extent. I will go back to the Order Paper. There was a response to the statement requested by Hon. Mohamed Adow. The Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Agriculture and Livestock, do you have the response? Is the Chair or Vice-Chair in the House? Do you have the report ready? Give him the microphone.
Yes, Hon. Temporary Speaker, I have a Statement regarding the status of the strategic promotion and development of dry land agriculture in Kenya.
Is Hon. Mohammed Adow in the House? That is good then. We have a response to his request of Statement.
Hon. Brighton, have you given Hon. Robert Gichimu a copy of that Statement?
Yes, he has a copy.
Then, I request for the sake of time that you move to the material parts.
Okay. This is a long response concerning Kimunye and Thumaita tea factories discrepancy with regards to the tea bonus. Tea bonus is a second payment to tea farmers that is payable at the end of each financial year. Every month, the tea farmers in Kimunye and Thumaita tea factories are paid an initial amount of Ksh25, which is an advance against their green leaf delivered. This is because the proce…
external auditor. The financial statements are then presented to the factory boards for approval, together with the proposed rate of bonus. Subsequently, the directors disseminate the same to the factory and shareholders. Clarification was also sought on the amount reserved or retained from farmers’ payment per kilogram of green leaves and specific purpose of those reserves or retentions and whet…
On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker.
What is out of order, Hon. Pukose?
I did not want to interrupt or disrupt the presentation by the Vice-Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Agriculture and Livestock, but you gave a directive that he goes into the material in terms of response because the Hon. Member has read the response. Therefore, I thought Hon. Brighton could restrict himself to the guidance of the Temporary Speaker.
Hon. Brighton, why can you not go to the specifics in terms of the statement requested? I was in a Parliament, Hon. Members, in the Philippines, and where a report or a statement has been given to the Members seeking it and they are satisfied, it is just passed. Where a Member has something to raise further, the Member indicates before the statement is called by the House. So, why can you not jus…
Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Sometimes, the farmers are following this. This matter of discrepancy of the bonuses between different factories of KTDA is a thorny issue. In fact, in my area, we lost one life because of agitation over the discrepancy between the bonus from the West and the East.
You are right. Proceed.
That is why this matter is being followed by the farmers so that they can be able to account for where their bonuses went to. I am in the final response. Number four, during the last election for directors that was held in July 2024, candidates for the position of tea factory directors - including Mr. Enos Njeru who is also the zonal board
member of KTDA - used the rate of bonus payment as a bait to persuade tea farmers in voting for them. In that regard, Mr. Enos Njeru had promised tea farmers in Kirinyaga County that they would be paid Ksh60 per kilogram of green leaves that is delivered to the factory. The promise was supposedly made based on the nine months accounts which is from July 2023 to March 2024, which usually has not ta…
Hon. Robert Gichimu is no doubt satisfied.
Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Let me start by thanking the Vice-Chairman and the Departmental Committee on Agriculture and Livestock for coming up with that response. Tea matters in my constituency are very important for almost half of the population who entirely rely on the crop. I sought this statement so that I am able to relay to the farmers that I represent, who sell their tea at Kimunye…
Thank you, Hon. Robert Gichimu. The Hon. Vice-Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Agriculture and Livestock, do you have the response for Hon. Sarah Korere?
Yes, I have a response concerning the lease of Agricultural Development Corporation (ADC) land in Rumuruti in Laikipia County. The response from the Ministry is as follows: The Agricultural Development Corporation (ADC) , through its subsidiary land limited, owns approximately 63,220 acres in Rumuruti, Laikipia County. Out of those 63,220 acres, 15,000 acres were leased to a company called Waragu…
Hon. Sarah Korere. Hon. Sarah Korere : Thank you. I want to thank the Vice-Chair of the Departmental Committee on Agriculture and Livestock for attempting to respond to the statement request. However, again, it goes without saying that the response is shallow and annoying. This is because ADC Mutara is a 63,000 acres piece of land in Laikipia. Clearly, the
[(Laikipia North, JP)]
intention of the Government, in having such a parastatal there, was to undertake breeding and upgrading of the breeds of the neighbouring communities. It is an open secret that, as we speak, the ADC Mutara Farm does not have a single cow. A whole parastatal that is being run using taxpayers' money has less than 1,000 goats. It does not make sense to have it there. To make the matters worse, the C…
Hon. Brighton, do you want the Committee to move on its own Motion and interrogate the matter deeper or would you prefer that Hon. Sarah Korere raises a question? It clearly appears that there are some issues beyond the statement.
Hon. Temporary Speaker, Hon. Sarah Korere has raised issues other than those that are contained in the statement request. There are very serious issues which needs more investigations. Therefore, we will take it back to the Committee to conduct further investigations on the matter of the land that she says has been leased out irregularly. Maybe, she can also pursue the other route of raising a sub…
It is not necessary. Take it up on your own Motion. You know the inadequacies of statements but, ultimately, we are resolving issues of concern to Kenyans, whom we represent here. So, take up the matter. Invite Hon. Sarah Korere, invite the sectoral heads and the Cabinet Secretary involved. You will be undertaking an inquiry on every case. Conduct your investigation expeditiously and ensure that y…
I will be very brief, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Thank you for giving me this opportunity. As a matter of fact, and law, the lease of Government land, whether owned by a parastatal or directly by the national Government, is actually privatisation. So, when the Committee investigates this matter, it should tell us how the leasing of that land fits within the Privatisation Act and within the privatisat…
Hon. Brighton Yegon, do you now see the reason as to why I said you should come up with a report to be debated in this House? If knowledgeable persons like Hon. Caroli Omondi do not come to the Committee, they can speak to whatever report you will bring to the House. We are ultimately operating under Article 95 (2) of the Constitution to resolve issues of concern to the people.
On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker.
What is out of order, Member for Sotik?
Hon. Temporary Speaker, I would like to revisit the issue of tea. I raised my hand but you completely refused to see it. I want to request for an opportunity to make a few comments on the tea issue.
Hon. Sigei, there is something in law called functus officio. Parliament is functionally out of that business for now.
So, I stand down?
I can assure you that these are not matters where I can permit you to deal with us the way you used to when you were a Commissioner.
[(Laughter)]
Is Hon. Kamene, Member for Machakos County, in the House to move the Bill? We will step down this particular Order to a future date when the House Business Committee will next schedule it for consideration. Next Order.
Hon. Eve Obara had a few minutes remaining to contribute. Is she in the House? I cannot see any interest in contributing to this Bill. Is there any Member who is keen to contribute to it? Chairman of the Department Committee on Finance and National Planning, Hon. Kimani Kuria.
Hon. Temporary Speaker, one of the issues that we were discussing earlier on the absenteeism of Members is that you prepare for one Bill only for it to be stepped down because the Mover is not there. You have to recollect where you were in the other Bill. I rise to support the Land Control Amendment Bill, (National Assembly Bill No. 39 of 2023) . This Bill is seeking to replace the Land Registrat…
either fraudulently, and acquired title deeds or sale agreements for land that is purely meant for the use of the public. For example, Hon. Temporary Speaker, in Molo Town, we have two very interesting cases where a court case has been going on for the last 20 years. One case is of someone who owns a piece of land inside a police station and lives inside there, while the other case is about one w…
Thank you very much. Hon. Rindikiri Mugambi, do you want to contribute to this?
Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. As articulated by our Chairman, matters of land in our country are very emotive. We have had many challenges in the management of land in this country. We have so much land and yet, many conflicts are associated with it. This Bill addresses matters of land arbitration. Land control boards are very essential for land matters in the village. I am glad that those bo…
Next is Hon. Francis Sigei, Member for Sotik.
Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for giving me this opportunity. This is a very important Bill. At the outset, I want to state that I have chaired many land control boards. Land control boards have played a vital role in stabilising land management in this country. I am very happy that we are now validating and modernising this Land Control Bill. Land control boards have existed for a long time…
In ordinary circumstances, I would have called the Mover to reply, but this particular Bill is very critical. I, therefore, defer further debate on it to a future date. Call the next Order.
The Chairperson of the Public Investments Committee on Governance and Education.
Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move the following Motion: THAT, this House adopts the Report of the Public Investments Committee on Governance and Education on its Examination of the Reports of the Auditor- General on the Financial Statements of State Corporations (Nyanza Region) for the financial years 2018/2019, 2019/2020 and 2020/2021, laid on the Table of the House on Thursday, 25th July 20…
Are you talking of Kenyatta University?
No! I am talking about Rongo University. It has four on-going construction projects. The Jaramogi Oginga Odinga University of Science and Technology has five stalled projects over a span of six years. They stand incomplete to date. That results in loss of Government funds and no value for money in the long run as a result of inflation. The Committee recommends that the National Treasury should
only approve projects whose funding it can guarantee and whose completion is within the medium-term economic framework. The Committee further recommends that the said projects should only be approved after existing projects are completed to avoid the lumping of stalled projects in institutions. The policy should be: One project at a time. I want to report to this House that we are in the process …
Firstly, the Committee recommends that all public agencies must comply with the constitutional provision on equality and inclusiveness as buttressed by the National Cohesion and Integration Act No. 12 of 2008. The Committee also recommends amending the TVET Act, 2013 to grant those institutions the authority to engage with the Public Service Commission during the hiring process of the 50 per cent…
are asking for fairness. Incidentally, those that have resources are given more. I do not know if they are applying the biblical wisdom that whoever has more will be given more, and they will live in abundance. Whoever does not have, even what they have will be taken from them. That is because if you look at the poverty index of some of the communities in this country, they are so poor that they h…
The books of accounts of Jaramogi Oginga Odinga University of Science and Technology disclose a dinner allowance of Ksh55,250 paid to an officer who was involved in the preparation of data with the Commission for University Education within the university precincts. That is contrary to Section 21(11) of the University Collective Bargain Agreement of 2013-2017, that states that meal allowances shal…
Hon. Mwenje, who is the Deputy Whip of the Minority Party, to second.
Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I thank the Hon. Chairman together with my colleagues in the Committee for a job well done. From the get-go, I want to just highlight the issue of education. When he talks about education, you realise that it empowers individuals. Education is all about economic growth and stability. Education is all about poverty reduction. It improves health, promotes equality…
disbursed were to the tune of Ksh800 million, but the project is incomplete. Why can we not do those projects in phases? If that money had been spent in phases, we could have partially opened some of those lecture rooms, libraries and have an ongoing project. That is something that the Ministry must look into. They must ensure that we do not have wastage where you just pour in Ksh800 million and i…
The support from the National Government Constituency Development Fund (NG- CDF) has been amazing as has been mentioned with the situation in Suna East. We were able to reach out as a Committee, engaged the Committee there, together with the area Member of Parliament who immediately was able to support us. I encourage all those institutions to engage the NG-CDF. It must also be made clear that NG-…
Hon. Kakai Bisau. Hon. Bisau Kakai : Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for giving me this opportunity to contribute.
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On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker.
Hon. Rindikiri, what is out of order?
Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. This is a very important Report which requires the attention of all Members of this House. It has raised very weighty issues that are touching on various factors like mismanagement, investigations, audit and regional issues. To give this Report justice, the entire House needs to be present for sizeable deliberations. I stand under Standing Order 35. We need to h…
What does Standing Order 35 state?
It is on lack of quorum, Hon. Temporary Speaker. This is a very substantive Report.
Ring the Quorum Bell for 10 minutes.
[(The Quorum Bell was rung)]
Hon. Members, the time being 8.09