National Assembly · Afternoon Sitting
Wednesday, 8 March 2023
The Joint Parliamentary Committee reviewed the nomination of Dr. Susan for Deputy Governor of the Central Bank of Kenya, outlining her extensive banking experience, academic credentials, and compliance clearances. Members highlighted the need for strong regulation of emerging financial technologies such as digital lenders, cryptocurrencies and forex trading, and urged the House to approve her appointment, noting the significance of her selection on International Women’s Day. Members voiced strong support for constitutional amendments to entrench the NG‑CDF and create an oversight fund for Senators, arguing these steps would improve development funding and accountability. They also endorsed reforms to achieve the two‑thirds gender rule, require Cabinet Secretaries to answer questions directly in the House, and establish an Office of the Leader of the Official Opposition. The overall tone was constructive, emphasizing enhanced representation and oversight. Hon. Kenneth Tungule praised the motion to constitutionally entrench the NG‑CDF and related funds, arguing they protect vital development projects and bursaries, especially for vulnerable regions like Ganze. He also supported the Senate Oversight Fund, the proposal for Cabinet Secretaries to answer parliamentary questions directly, and the establishment of a funded Office of the Leader of the Official Opposition, while expressing concerns about the Supreme Court’s expanded definition of gender affecting the two‑thirds gender rule.
Serjeant-At-Arms, you may ring the Quorum Bell. Order, Hon. Members! We now have quorum to transact business. Hon. Members at the back, take your seats so that I can convey a petition. Take your nearest seat.
[(The Quorum Bell was rung)]
[(Hon. Members took their seats)]
Hon. Speaker, I beg to give notice of the following Motion: THAT, this House adopts the Sixth Report of the Procedure and House Rules Committee on Amendments to the Standing Orders, laid on the Table of the House on Wednesday, 8th March 2023 and pursuant to the provisions of Article 124 (1) of the Constitution and Standing Order 265 –
Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. Next Order.
Hon. Members, I will start with the Statement by the Member for Embakasi Central, Hon. Benjamin Gathiru. Where is the Hon. Member? Can you give the Member a microphone? There you are Mheshimiwa.
Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request for a Statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Trade, Industry and Cooperatives regarding unfair trading practices by foreign investors in the country. Hon. Speaker, the country has been experiencing an influx of foreign investors in various sectors, including manufacturing …
Thank you, Hon. Member. Is the Chairperson for the Departmental Committee on Trade, Industry and Cooperatives here? Any Member of the Committee present, convey to your Chair that we need a response in two weeks’ time. Let us go to Questions now. The first Question is by Hon. Rindikiri Murwithania.
Hon. Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 42A (5) , I rise to ask the Cabinet Secretary for East African Community, the Arid and Semi-Arid Lands (ASALs) and Regional Development the following Question:
The Question will be replied to before the Departmental Committee on Regional Development. Is the Chairperson here? Expect the response in two weeks’ time. Next is Hon. Aduma Owour, the Member for Nyakach. Question No.27/2023
Hon. Speaker, this is the one and only Member for Nyakach. Hon. Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 42A (5) , I rise to ask the Cabinet Secretary for Tourism, Wildlife and Heritage the following Question: Could the Cabinet Secretary –
Thank you, Hon. Member. Is the Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Tourism and Wildlife here? If any Member of the Committee is here, pleases, inform your Chair that we need an answer in two weeks’ time. Member for Matungulu, Hon. Stephen Mule, ask Question 28/2023. Question No.28/2023
Hon. Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order No. 42A (5) , I would like to ask the Cabinet Secretary for the National Treasury and Economic Planning the following Question:
Thank you, Hon. Mule. Chairman of Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning, the Member for Molo; when can you bring the response?
I will bring it in two weeks’ time, Hon. Speaker.
Two weeks. So be it. On Question No.29, can we have the Member for Mathare, Hon. Anthony Oluoch? Question No. 29/2023
Hon. Speaker, I rise to ask the Cabinet Secretary for Health the following:
Thank you, Hon. Oluoch. Chair, Departmental Committee on Health, Dr. Pukose, when can you bring the response?
Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I want to thank Hon. Oluoch for that Question. I will bring the response to the House in two weeks’ time.
Thank you, Member for Endebess. Next is Question No. 30/2023 by Hon. Jared Okello, Member for Nyando. Question No. 30/2023
Hon. Speaker, permit me to, first, congratulate you. You have added an additional feather in your hat. You are now the Rt. Hon. (Dr) Moses Masika Wetangula Odhiambo.
Where does Odhiambo come from? Must you be an Odhiambo for you to have a doctorate certification?
Hon. Speaker, it goes without saying that we have told people not to throw stones aimlessly past Kericho all the way to Busia border, otherwise
you can hit a doctor or a professor. Going forward, we shall be very careful, protecting you within the compound. No stones shall be thrown where you are. Hon. Speaker, I would like to ask the Cabinet Secretary for Agriculture and Livestock
Thank you, Hon. Jared. Chairman of Departmental Committee on Agriculture and Livestock, Hon. Mutunga, are you here? If we have any Members of the Committee, please tell your Chair to bring the answer in two weeks’ time. Hon. Members, that brings us to the end of the Questions and Statements segment. Next Order.
Yes, Member for Turbo. Proceed.
Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I beg to move the following Procedural Motion: THAT, notwithstanding the provisions of Standing Order 227 (2) , this House resolves to extend the period for consideration of the Public Petitions specified hereunder by the Public Petitions Committee by a further period of forty-five (45) days with effect from 8th March, 2023 –
[(Committal of Petitions)]
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The Committee is dedicated and keen on pursuing matters referred to it to finality and provide relevant responses to the petitioners. It is against this backdrop that the Committee requests the House to grant it more time to enable it finalise the processes and present comprehensive reports on the Petitions. Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move and request Hon. Susan Kiamba to second the Motion.
Very well. Seconder?
Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I am a Member of this Committee. In dealing with each Petition, we realised that we needed to understand the complex realities surrounding it. This required engagement with a wide range of stakeholders, which needed more time. That made it quite challenging for us to complete the assignment as planned. Secondly, we realised that dealing with Petitions was not a …
[(Question proposed)]
Put the Question!
Is it the mood of the House that I put the Question?
Yes!
[(Question put and agreed to)]
Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move the following Motion: THAT, this House adopts the Report of the Joint Committee of the National Assembly and the Senate and approves the appointment of Dr. Susan Jemtai Koech as the Deputy Governor of the Central Bank of Kenya.
Please, read out the Motion as it is on the Order Paper. Give him the Order paper.
Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I stand guided.
Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move the following Motion: THAT, taking into consideration the findings of the Joint Committee of the National Assembly Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning and Senate Standing Committee on Finance and Budget in its Report on vetting of Dr Susan Jemtai Koech for approval as Deputy Governor of the Central Bank of Kenya, laid on the Table of the H…
[(Applause)]
The Joint Parliamentary Committee adhered to the provisions of Article 118 of the Constitution on public participation and openness in carrying out the approval process. A notification inviting members of the public to the hearing was placed on mainstream media on Saturday, 18th February as required by Section 6 (4) of the Public Appointments (Parliamentary Approval) Act of 2011. We did our joint …
This is where she really belongs because it matches her academic qualifications. It matches her long experience as a banker with KCB. She has also demonstrated a lot of interest, including continued membership in the Kenya Bankers Association. The nominee, in our considered opinion, meets the requirements of Chapter Six of the Constitution on leadership and integrity, having been issued with clea…
Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I rise to second this Motion. The Chair has done a good job. He has raised all the points that we, as a Committee, had. The approval at the Committee level was unanimous both at the Senate and National Assembly. When you look at Dr Susan’s curriculum vitae, it is clear that she is the most qualified lady to hold the position of Deputy Governor of the Central Bank…
as a Principal Secretary both for East African Community from 2018 to 2019 and State Department for Wildlife from 2019 to 2022. The Committee was expected to check the nominee’s suitability. This was done by checking her academic qualifications, experience and integrity. She is qualified in all those areas. I ask the House to approve the nominee so that we release her to start her duties. As we s…
Put the Question, Hon. Temporary Speaker.
Very well. Is it the mood of the House that I put the Question?
Yes.
[(Question put and agreed to)]
Next Order.
Hon. Members, the bell has been rung for 10 minutes, and I can confirm that there is no quorum in the House. The time being 5.46 p.m., this House stands adjourned until Thursday, 9th March 2023, at 2.30 p.m. The House rose at 5.46 p.m.
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