National Assembly · Morning Sitting
Wednesday, 8 October 2025
Members debated procedural handling of several bill clauses, seeking clarification on recommitting clauses and enumerating specific clauses for further consideration. The Temporary Chairlady guided the process, moving amendments to delete clauses 9 and 10 and to modify wording in clause 12, while also addressing a technical microphone issue. The discussion centered on ensuring proper procedure and accurate legislative language. Members debated proposed limits on gamete and embryo donation, citing risks of excessive genetic siblings and potential incest, and argued for safeguards against commercial surrogacy. While some supported the 10‑donation cap and related clauses, others questioned the basis for the number and sought wording changes, such as deleting “or” in Clause 19(b). The discussion centered on protecting health, ethics, and ensuring altruistic fertility services. Members raised concerns over the lack of mobile network coverage in Lulis Location, Mandera County, and the disappearance of Mr Galgallo Bagaja Malicha in Marsabit County, seeking statements from the relevant departmental committees. The Deputy Speaker noted the absence of committee chairs and pledged responses within two weeks, while procedural motions dominated the sitting with several members absent.
Serjeant-at-arms, ring the Quorum Bell for 10 minutes. Hon. Millie, help us whip more Members since you have your important Bill on the Order Paper. Hon. Salasya, I make you a temporary Whip. Whip the Members for us. Hon. Salasya, I have given you the position of Whip. Go to the Lounge and whip Members. Serjeant-at-Arms, ring the Quorum Bell for another 5 minutes. Hon. Members, I think we are re…
[(The Quorum Bell was rung)]
[(Hon. Gideon Kimaiyo walked into the Chamber)]
Hon. Members, we had a request for a statement to be read by Hon. Naomi Waqo. She is not present, so we will hold that in abeyance as we wait for her. Then there is one by Hon. Umul Kheir Kassim. Hon. Umur Kassim, are you ready with your statement?
Yes, Hon. Deputy Speaker.
Please, proceed.
Hon. Deputy Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request for a statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Communication, Information and Innovation regarding the absence of communication network in Lulis Location, Banissa Sub-County, Mandera County.
Lulis Location comprises several major settlements including Andarak, Hardawa, Domal, Awaliatani, Ardamachi, Soroba, Kabil, Bughe, Ogonicho and Shobtoy. According to the 2019 National Census, this area is home to more than 50,000 residents and also hosts over 10 primary schools, two secondary schools and more than three dispensaries serving the local population. In today’s digital era, access to r…
Is the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Communication, Information and Innovation present? Is there a Member who can give an undertaking on behalf of the Committee? Is there a Member of that Committee present? On behalf of the Leader of the Majority Party, Hon. Waqo, please respond to this.
Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. We will make sure that the Chairman gives the response in two weeks’ time.
Thank you.
Let us have Hon. Naomi Waqo, Member for Marsabit County.
Hon. Deputy Speaker, pursuant to Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to seek a statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security regarding the disappearance of Mr Galgallo Bagaja Malicha, ID No.44041644. To date, there are many others, especially Guyo Jilo, who has disappeared for some days now. Mr Galgallo Bagaja Malicha, ID No.44041644, a reside…
since then. Despite widespread efforts by his family and community to trace him, Mr Galgallo’s whereabouts remain unknown. The incident was officially reported at Sololo Police Station on 3rd September 2025 under Occurrence Book (OB) No.63/9/25. However, as of today, there has been little progress in the investigation. Mr Galgallo’s family and the wider community are growing increasingly anxious a…
Thank you. That is directed to the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security. Is the Chairperson or any Member here? Hon. Ngusya are you a Member? How come you are on your feet? There being no Member present, Hon. Waqo, please respond.
[(Hon. Charles Nguna rose on his feet)]
[(Hon. Charles Nguna took his seat)]
Thank you Hon. Deputy Speaker, we will take note of that, and within the next two weeks, we should be given the response. Thank you.
Now, we move to the statements that were supposed to be responded to. Hon. Harun, nominated Member of Parliament. She is not here? Because the owner of the Statement is not here, we will pass it and move on. The next one is a response to a Request for a Statement by Hon. Nabuin, Member of Parliament for Turkana North. He is also not here.
Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I just want to go on record that I have the responses for the request for statements by Hon. Ekwom Nabuin and Hon. Suleka Harun but both of them are not in the House. An hon. Member : He is here.
Sorry, I did not notice the Member for Turkana North is in.
The Member for Turkana North is here.So, proceed with his response.
On a point of order, Hon. Deputy Speaker.
What is your point of order, Hon. Makali?
Thank you very much, Hon. Deputy Speaker. Indulge me on this matter which I think is very serious. It is now Questions and Statement time, and we see that Hon. Waqo is taking care of all the Chairpersons. I do not know whether people are tired or what is happening. I expect this House to be full with Chairpersons of Committees to respond to issues raised by Members. It looks like the Deputy Whip o…
Thank you. We will take it up with the Liaison Committee; the Committee of Chairpersons. Hon. Millie, you may now proceed to give the response.
Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I think the challenge is with the Chairpersons. Members are in the House. Many of them have come in and some are at the tea places. Hon. Deputy Speaker, I want to respond to a Request for a Statement by Hon. Ekwom Nabuin, Member of Parliament for Turkana North Constituency on the Todonyang massacre. Hon. Deputy Speaker, further to the earlier response tabled befor…
Thank you. Members, our next order was order No.8 but I will exercise my discretion under Standing Order No. 40 to reorder the Order Paper as we cannot put the question on Order No.8. We shall move to Order No.9.
Hon. Nabuin, Member for Turkana North, I am told you want to comment before we move to the next order.
Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I was expecting to be given a chance to make a comment on this…
Usually, you have to make a request. You have not logged in your card. I thought you were satisfied.
Sorry, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I am satisfied with the engagement of the Committee and their response. I also want to confirm that in the last two weeks, together with the special envoy, Hon. John Munyes, we engaged the Ethiopian authorities at a higher level in Addis Ababa and at the regional level and so, the happenings now are good. Both communities across the border are engaging. There are peace …
Is there any other comment on that response. If there is none, we can move to the next Order.
Hon. Members, can the Chairperson Report to the House.
Hon. Deputy Speaker, I beg to report that the Committee of the whole House has considered the Assisted Reproductive Technology Bill (National Assembly Bill No.61 of 2022) except for Clauses 2, 8, 14, 27, 30 and 52, and approved the same with amendments and seek leave to sit again. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker.
Mover.
Hon. Deputy Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said report. I request Hon. Sunkuli to second the Motion for agreement with the report of the Committee of the whole House.
Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to second.
Thank you.
[(Question proposed)]
[(Question put and agreed to)]
Hon. Members, the time being 1.05 p.m. the House stands adjourned until this afternoon at 2.30 pm. The House rose at 1.05 p.m.
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