Senate · Afternoon Sitting

Monday, 19 August 2024

Session Summary

Senate members interrogated County Assembly witness Hon. Zipporah Kinya about the size of the Governor’s office staff, citing claims of a bloated workforce and an excessive wage bill. The witness confirmed 111 employees, detailed categories such as cleaners and information officers, and referenced documents and advisories from the Auditor‑General, Transition Authority and IGRTC as evidence. Senators debated the scheduling of witness clarifications, with Sen. Gloria urging earlier opportunities to question witnesses and the Temporary Speaker ruling on procedural points. The ensuing exchange between the witness, Mr. Elias Mutuma, and MCA Hon. Zipporah Kinya centered on whether a petition‑letter was addressed to the Governor or County Secretary, marked by repeated interruptions and a tense tone. The witnesses, Mr. Jacob Kirari and Mr. Elisha Ongoya, examined the existence and handling of specific letters recorded in a register, repeatedly questioning who received each correspondence. The exchange highlighted procedural uncertainties about record‑keeping and the role of staff member Joy in logging letters, with occasional confrontational remarks.

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The Speaker (Hon. Kingi)

Clerk, do we have quorum? Sen. Orwoba and Sen. Beth Syengo, take your seats so that we start this afternoon’s business. Clerk, you may proceed to call the first Order.

[(The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted with the Speaker)]

[(Sen. Orwoba and Sen. Beth Syengo walked into the Chamber)]

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The Speaker (Hon. Kingi)

Hon. Senators and parties to this impeachment proceedings, we are first going to hear the case of the County Assembly. Counsel for the County Assembly, you have four hours to present your case. The four hours include the evidence-in-chief, cross-examination and re-examination.

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The Speaker (Hon. Kingi)

This is how we are going to conduct this investigation. You will call a witness, they will be sworn in, and you will lead them in evidence-in-chief. Thereafter, they will be cross-examined by the team for the Governor. You will proceed to re-examine the witness and, thereafter, the Senators will be allowed to seek any clarification or ask questions to that witness. The time taken by the Senators …

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Mr. Elias Mutuma

Is there any other action that was taken by the Governor after we came to the Senate? Yes or no?

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Hon. Zipporah Kinya

I am not aware.

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Mr. Elias Mutuma

The Governor has not done anything else concerning those individuals apart from what had transpired previously. Is it not so?

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Hon. Zipporah Kinya

I am not aware.

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Mr. Elias Mutuma

Thank you. Let us go to the last issue of a bloated workforce. I want you to read the first five and the last five names in the list you have attached in your current Motion of Impeachment, where you are alleging that the Governor has employed a bloated workforce. Go to Page 164 of volume two of your document. I want you to read the first five and the last five names. First of all, confirm, how m…

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Hon. Zipporah Kinya

Yes.

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Mr. Elias Mutuma

Please, read the first five and the last five names.

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Hon. Zipporah Kinya

Yes.

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Mr. Elias Mutuma

Thank you. Let us go to the last issue of a bloated workforce. I want you to read the first five and the last five names in the list you have attached in your current Motion of Impeachment, where you are alleging that the Governor has employed a bloated workforce. Go to Page 164 of volume two of your document. I want you to read the first five and the last five names. First of all, confirm, how m…

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Hon. Zipporah Kinya

Yes.

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Mr. Elias Mutuma

Please, read the first five and the last five names.

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Hon. Zipporah Kinya

Yes.

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Mr. Elias Mutuma

The first five names, kindly.

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Hon. Zipporah Kinya

I read them?

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Mr. Elias Mutuma

Yes, read them.

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Hon. Zipporah Kinya

The first name is Gitonga Harrison Gatobu.

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Mr. Elias Mutuma

Second name?

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Hon. Zipporah Kinya

Linda Gakii Kiome.

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Mr. Elias Mutuma

Third name?

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Hon. Zipporah Kinya

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Mr. Elias Mutuma

Fourth name?

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Hon. Zipporah Kinya

Gideon Kimathi.

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Mr. Elias Mutuma

Fifth name?

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Hon. Zipporah Kinya

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Sen. Cheruiyot

Very well Counsel, we may proceed. That was a procedural matter that we had to dispense with. For your guidance, you had already utilized 10 minutes, you have 50 minutes to conclude with your evidence.

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Mr. Elisha Ongoya

Sorry?

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Mr. Jacob Kirari

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The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Wakili Sigei)

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Hon. Senators, it is now 11

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