National Assembly · Afternoon Sitting

Thursday, 13 March 2025

Session Summary

Members debated the allocation of additional funds, urging that money earmarked for teachers be used to improve pensions, promote long‑serving staff and hire older teachers before they become unemployable. The House also approved a Ksh150 million increase for the Auditor‑General’s budget and discussed the need for greater visibility and funding of commissions, including the Commission on Administrative Justice and gender‑focused bodies. While most speakers expressed support, concerns were raised about past neglect and equitable distribution of resources. Hon. Kuria Kimani moved a series of amendments (New Clauses 1B‑1H) to the Public Finance Management Act, each reducing the statutory deadline for public entities to submit financial statements from three months to two months and mandating accounting officers to act on Parliament’s recommendations from Auditor‑General reports. All motions were procedurally presented, second‑read and agreed to during the afternoon sitting. The National Assembly debated a series of amendment clauses (4A‑4E) to the Public Finance Management Act, each reducing prescribed timeframes from three months to two months and were read a second time and agreed. The Temporary Chairman announced that clauses 4F‑4I were dropped on constitutional grounds, and a consequential amendment to Clause 2 was adopted. A motion was also moved for the committee to report on the PFMA (Amendment) (No.2) Bill with its approvals.

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Hon. Speaker

Hon. Members, we have a quorum to start our business. I would like to direct the House as follows: Aside from the laying of papers, there will be no preliminaries and so, we will proceed directly to the main business of the day. Many Members have statements today and I direct all of them to be slated for tomorrow morning. We will start with request for statement and responses at 10.00 a.m. The onl…

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The Deputy Minority Whip.

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Hon. Naomi Waqo (Marsabit County, UDA)

Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table:

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Hon. Speaker

Next is the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning. Is he here? Leader of the Majority Party, where is the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning?

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Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA)

He must be finalising the amendments to the Insurance Bill.

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Hon. Speaker

Okay. We will skip that. Next Order.

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Hon. Speaker

I said I would only allow the usual Statement by the Leader of the Majority.

[(Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah stood up in his place)]

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Before that, Leader of the Majority Party, please take your seat. Hon. Members, allow me to recognise a delegation from the National Assembly of Zambia. I wish to introduce to you a delegation from the National Assembly of Zambia, comprising of Members of the Steering Committee on the Establishment of the Parliamentary Institute of Zambia who are seated in the Speaker’s Row. Hon. Members, when I c…

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Hon. Osoro.

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Hon. Silvanus Osoro (South Mugirango, UDA)

Thank you very much, Hon. Speaker. Indeed, I asked for a minute to appreciate the delegation from Zambia for the hospitality they accorded us when we visited them with you, as the House Business Committee sometime last year but one. I am reminded by the Majority Leader that it was last year when we visited Zambia. Of course, it was a learning experience being in Zambia. I hope that as they travers…

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Hon. Silvanus Osoro (South Mugirango, UDA)

were having lunch that they may not get the hospitality they accorded us when we visited them in terms of food. I told them to, again, extend their invitation very fast so that we can visit and enjoy the meal they served us and the experiences we shared in terms of the legislative duties that we all have. So, on behalf of the House Business Committee and this House, I wish to appreciate the Hon. M…

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Thank you Majority Whip. Hon. Rachel Nyamai, one minute.

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Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai (Kitui South, JP)

Thank you, Hon. Speaker for giving me this opportunity. I would like to welcome all the students that have come to visit Parliament today. I would like to specifically welcome students from Muthale Girls. I went to Muthale Girls High School many years ago and I still have memories of the encouragement that we were given by our teachers and our principal then, Mrs Mbuko. This is a school that made …

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Reluctantly, Hon. Munyoro. One minute.

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Hon. Joseph Munyoro (Kigumo, UDA)

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I want to welcome all students into Parliament, especially Rarakwa Girls from my constituency. It is one of the very few girls’ schools. We only have three girls’ schools in Kigumo. I want to encourage them and let them know that they have an opportunity to learn and come to sit where we sit currently. They have been doing very well in exams. I wish them well and a safe jo…

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Thank you. Hon. Kemei Justice. Hon. Justice Kemei (Sigowet/Soin UDA) : Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I wish to welcome Hon. Members from Zambia. I have been to Zambia over five times. It is a great country. I was also in school at the University of Wales with three students from Zambia and they were very hardworking. Welcome to Kenya. Thank you.

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Hon. Jared.

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Hon. Jared Okello (Nyando, ODM)

Hon. Speaker, I thank you for giving me the opportunity. Zambia actually came up with the Constituencies Development Fund (CDF) way ahead of us. When our parliamentarians in the 10th Parliament were writing the laws around the CDF, they borrowed heavily from what was already existing as the CDF in Zambia. Today, I am very happy that they have come to benchmark with the Centre for Parliamentary St…

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His name has got nothing to do with Zambia. Yes, the Leader of the Majority Party.

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Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA)

Is it for the Statement or to welcome?

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Hon. Speaker

It is for the Statement and you can welcome your pet school, Alliance. Two of my sons went through that school as well.

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Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA)

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. It is called: “The School.” Allow me, before I read the usual Thursday Statements, on behalf of the House

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Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA)

and on my own behalf to welcome the school that we host in Kikuyu, “The Alliance High School.” I want to tell the young men seated in the Speaker's Gallery that I was in that school about 31 years ago. Is it 31 years? I left that school in 1994 as the house captain of Smith House and the senior prefect in charge of discipline. They know what happens when there is indiscipline in the school. Allow…

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They accorded us a very good welcome.

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Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA)

It was extremely good. I missed that opportunity to visit Zambia. However, from the time the Majority Whip came back from Zambia, he has always had stories about the Zambian Parliament and how their parliamentarians live within the constituency houses in the City of Lusaka. We have a lot to learn from them, even as they seek to learn from us on the matter of the CPST.

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Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA)

Moving on to the Thursday Statement. Pursuant to the provision of Standing Order 44 (2) (a) , I rise to give the following Statement on behalf of the House Business Committee, which met on Tuesday, 11th March 2025, to prioritise business for consideration during the week. Hon. Speaker, as Members are aware, last week the House approved the Medium-Term Debt Management Strategy. Earlier today, the …

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Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA)

It is good to emphasise, especially now that all the Departmental Committees have their Chairs in place that there are very many committees that still have pending reports that are holding the processing of certain Bills to progress to Second Reading. I really want to urge all of us – because this is a short working recess – to take that break and allow committees to work on the reports and inquir…

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Thank you, Leader of the Majority Party. Next Order.

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Members on their feet, take your seats. Hon. Pauline and Member for Aldai, take the nearest seats. Hon. Members, I will now put the question at Order No. 8. Mover, Hon. Owen Baya.

[(Hon. Pauline Lenguris and Hon. Marianne Kitany walked along the gangways)]

[(Question put and agreed to)]

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Hon. Owen Baya (Kilifi North, UDA)

Hon. Speaker, I beg to move that the National Land Commission (Amendment) Bill, (National Assembly Bill No. 43 of 2023) , be now read a Third Time. I request Hon. Osoro to second.

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Hon. Silvanus Osoro (South Mugirango, UDA)

Thank you very much, Hon. Speaker. I second.

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Hon. Speaker

Thank you. Member for Ruiru, take your seat.

[(Hon. Simon King’ara walked into the Chamber)]

[(Question proposed)]

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Hon. Members

Put the question.

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Hon. Speaker

I will now put the question. I confirm that we have Quorum in the House to warrant a vote.

[(Question put and agreed to)]

[(The Bill was accordingly read a Third Time and passed)]

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Next Order. Hon. Members, be upstanding. Even the students in the Galleries, stand up.

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The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. Martha Wangari): Order, Hon. Members. We are back to the Committee of Supply on the Second Supplementary Estimates for the Financial Year 2024/2025. We had processed it up to Vote 1311.

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THAT, further to the Supplementary Appropriation (No.2) Act, 2024, the sum allocated to meet the expenditure (Recurrent and Development) for the year 30th June 2025 in respect of Vote 2021 (National Land Commission) be increased by a sum not exceeding Ksh176,000,000.

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Hon. Makali Mulu

Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. I support this increment. As I do that, let me go on record that we are very concerned as representatives of the people. Many Kenyans have given their land to development of public projects, but they have never been compensated for the land. For example, the Kitui-Kibwezi-Mwingi Road, our people gave out their land six years ago but, up to now, none o…

[(Programme 0119000 agreed to)]

[(Vote 2021 agreed to)]

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Hon. Gladys Boss (Uasin Gishu County, UDA)

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move: THAT, the schedule be amended in Vote 2031 by deleting the figure Ksh3,661,686,102 in Column 9 , under the programme 0617000 Management of Electoral Processes, and substituting therefor the figure Kshs3,811,686,102. This is to cater for an increase of Ksh150 million because IEBC has several pending bills. This increase will help them cover other pending …

[(Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission)]

[(Gross Recurrent Estimates)]

[(Question of the amendment proposed)]

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Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo (Funyula, ODM)

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, it is good hearing the Chairlady of the Liaison Committee indicate that the additional amount is for paying bills. However, there is a humongous amount of pending bills in terms of legal fees at IEBC. What amuses everybody is that the bills have been pending for many years but, each subsequent election cycle, those advocates still take up more instructions and briefs. Is …

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Hon. Gladys Boss (Uasin Gishu County, UDA)

This is just to notify Members that the net effect of this proposed amendment is that it will be an increment of Ksh30 million. The Temporary Chairlady : Hon. Makali Mulu.

[(Hon. Martha Wangari)]

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Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu (Kitui Central, WDM)

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairperson. That is the clarification I needed because she was saying Ksh150 million but there was a reduction of Ksh120 million. So, we are only allowing Ksh30 million more that will go towards the payment of the pending bills.

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Hon. Gladys Boss (Uasin Gishu County, UDA)

It will be positive.

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Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu (Kitui Central, WDM)

As we talk about pending bills, it is important, just like all other bills, that some of those bills are audited so that we get to know whether they are genuine or the normal Kenyan bills where people bill the Government having provided no services. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady.

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Hon. Gladys Boss (Uasin Gishu County, UDA)

Thank you. Member for Sigowet/Soin, are you on this? Hon. Justice Kemei (Sigowet/Soin, UDA) : Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. While I support the increment to the IEBC, Parliament must increasingly look at pending bills in all public institutions, particularly those that relate to lawyers and advocates. While they are providing a critical service, we need to look at them critically so that, …

[(Programme 0617000 as amended agreed to)]

[(Programme 0618000 agreed to)]

[(Vote 2031 as amended agreed to)]

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Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo (Funyula, ODM)

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, the issue of teachers and the Teachers Service Commission (TSC) is very emotive. I just want to go on record that in this country, we have P1 teachers who graduated between 2010 and 2015 and are yet to be fully absorbed. The question on everyone’s mind is whether they will reach retirement age before benefiting from the fruits of their labour in the classroom, or what the…

[(Hon. Martha Wangari)]

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Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu (Kitui Central, WDM)

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. Ksh18 billion is a lot of money, and colleagues, as we approve these resources, we must demand fairness in promotion and recruitment. The TSC has been very unfair to Kenyans. As a House, we must demand fairness in terms of promotion and recruitment of teachers. The Temporary Chairlady : Very well. Member for Sigowet/Soin, proceed. Hon. Justice Kemei (Sigowet…

[(Hon. Martha Wangari)]

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Hon. Catherine Omanyo (Busia County, ODM)

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. I also request that the additional money be used for the purpose it has been allocated for. I always see teachers, once they retire, suffering and travelling back and forth between the City and remote areas, begging to get their pension on time. I hope this time no one will die before seeing the fruits of their labour.

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Hon. Catherine Omanyo (Busia County, ODM)

The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. Martha Wangari): Hon. Jerusha Momanyi.

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Hon. Jerusha Momanyi (Nyamira County, JP)

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. I also support that the increased funds be used to promote the right teachers who have served for a long time in the same job group. When the promotions are done, they should be fair and equally distributed throughout the country. Those who graduated a long time ago and especially, P1 teachers who have not been employed, should also be considered, bearing in m…

[(Hon. Martha Wangari)]

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Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai (Kitui South, JP)

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. As I support the increment, I would like to say that we have teachers who are above 40 years. We all know that in public service, once someone reaches 45 years, they can no longer be employed. During the oversight of this Budget, the Departmental Committee on Education should ensure that teachers who are above 40 years in our constituencies are hired before the…

[(Programmes 0509000, 0510000 and 0511000 agreed to)]

[(Vote 2091 agreed to)]

[(Hon. Martha Wangari)]

[(Recurrent and Development)]

[(Question proposed)]

[(Hon. Martha Wangari)]

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Hon. (Dr) James Nyikal (Seme, ODM)

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, as I rise to support this, the Auditor-General should take note that this House has just passed a Bill, which is likely going to be consented to soon, aimed at expanding their services in human resource. This is an area of concern for us in the country. With this increase, they should try to operationalise this Act as soon as it is consented to. Thank you. The Temporary …

[(Hon. Martha Wangari)]

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Hon. Ferdinand Wanyonyi (Kwanza Ford-K)

Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairlady, regarding Vote 2091 on the Teachers Service Commission, I want to suggest that...

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Hon. Ferdinand Wanyonyi (Kwanza Ford-K)

The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. Martha Wangari): Order, Hon. Ferdinand Wanyonyi. We are already done with that. We are on Vote 2111 on the Auditor-General. Hon. Owen Baya, do you want to speak to Vote 2111?

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Hon. Owen Baya (Kilifi North, UDA)

No. The Temporary Chairlady : Hon. (Dr) James Nyikal, do you want to speak to this?

[(Hon. Martha Wangari)]

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Hon. (Dr) James Nyikal (Seme, ODM)

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I support the increase. This is one Commission that we do not feel. If you ask many Kenyans what that Commission does, it may be doing a lot of work, but we do not feel its impact, even in Parliament. It should become more visible and improve communication with the public. The Temporary Chairlady : Asante. Member for Endebess, do you want to speak on this one? Hon. (D…

[(Hon. Martha Wangari)]

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[(Programme 0731000 agreed to)]

[(Vote 2131 agreed to)]

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Hon. Nicholas Mwale (Butere, ODM)

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, for us to attain gender equality, I support the increase. The Temporary Chairlady : Hon. Keynan.

[(Hon. Martha Wangari)]

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Hon. Adan Keynan (Eldas, JP)

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. This is a very important Commission, especially considering the many challenges, such as gender-based violence, and the issues that are facing our girls. We need to feel the presence of this Commission in all counties. I hope that what we have experienced over the last year comes to an end. In the future, I suggest that we fund that Commission more than any oth…

[(Hon. Martha Wangari)]

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Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA)

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, this is a very important Commission that appeared before the Departmental Committee on Health on a Bill from the Senate on Reproductive Health. They came with their commissioners and senior staff to Parliament. I applaud the Commission, which is led by the former Member of this House, Hon. Jaldesa. We should support it. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. The Temporary …

[(Hon. Martha Wangari)]

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Hon. Samuel Atandi (Alego Usonga, ODM)

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I join my colleagues in saying that this is a very important Commission. We recently approved the Chairperson of this Commission, but since her appointment, she has been unable to work due to lack of vehicles and resources. This increase is significant and we should support it. The Temporary Chairlady : Very well said.

[(Hon. Martha Wangari)]

[(Programme 0621000 agreed to)]

[(Vote 2141 agreed to)]

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Hon. (Dr.) Ojiambo Oundo (Funyala, ODM)

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, this is a commendable increase, and I, sincerely hope the Oversight Policing Authority will use this additional funding to probe the dangerous trend of abduction, forced disappearances and crimes committed by police officers, as well as undertake various services. The Temporary Chairlady : Hon. Ferdinand Wanyonyi.

[(Hon. Martha Wangari)]

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Hon. Ferdinand Wanyonyi (Kwanza, FORD-K)

I think the money we are giving IPOA may not be enough. The Temporary Chairlady : What?

[(Hon. Martha Wangari)]

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Hon. Ferdinand Wanyonyi (Kwanza, ODM)

We need policing oversight because of what has happened. There have been many demonstrations by the youth. I believe in the coming months, I will propose increasing this amount to ensure we have enough mobility facilities to

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Hon. Ferdinand Wanyonyi (Kwanza, ODM)

address these issues, as there are many demonstrations, some of which are destructive to the economy. I support. The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. Martha Wangari): Hon. Mishi Mboko.

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Hon. Mishi Mboko (Likoni, ODM)

Ahsante. Naunga mkono kuongezwa kwa fedha hizi katika kitengo hiki cha kuangalia hali ya usalama. Tumeona hali ya usalama imekuwa mbaya, hasa kwa sisi wanawake. Juzi na jana, tumeona wanawake wengi wameuawa katika hali za kutatanisha. Ikiwa fedha hizi zitaongezwa, kitengo hiki kitaweza kujisaidia kupata usafiri, kwani mara nyingi kinakosa. Vilevile, katika kazi zao, kitahakikisha kuwa dhuluma zim…

[(Hon. Martha Wangari)]

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Hon. Kangogo Bowen (Marakwet East, UDA)

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. Even as we increase the allocation to the Independent Police Oversight Authority (IPOA) , IPOA needs to work within the Constitution and understand the functions of the police. Sometimes, police officers are harassed by IPOA when they are doing their work. For example, last month in Narok, a policeman had his hand cut off, and IPOA continued to pursue those of…

[(Hon. Martha Wangari)]

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Hon. David Mwalika (Kitui Rural, WDM)

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I support this, but I believe we need to review the Act, amend it and grant IPOA more powers.

[(Programme 0622000 agreed to)]

[(Vote 2151 agreed to)]

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Hon. Temporary Chairlady (Hon. Martha Wangari)

Hon. Dawood.

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Hon. Rahim Dawood (North Imenti, Independent)

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. I support this increment. I wish the Chairman of the Budget and Appropriations Committee will consider that we increase money to the Judiciary in the coming years. This is because many courthouses in this country are incomplete. For good justice, we need more money. Thank you.

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Hon. Temporary Chairlady (Hon. Martha Wangari)

Thank you. Hon. Bartoo.

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Hon. Phylis Bartoo (Moiben, UDA)

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I support. We have a shortage of judges at all levels of our courts and so, this will go a long way in improving the justice system.

[(Programme 0610000 agreed to)]

[(Vote 1261 as amended agreed to)]

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Hon. Temporary Chairlady (Hon. Martha Wangari)

Hon. Atandi.

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Hon. Samuel Atandi (Alego Usonga, ODM)

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, this increase to the Judicial Service Commission (JSC) is one of the most important ones. There is an ongoing process to clean up the Judiciary by getting rid of some judges that have undermined justice in the country. Therefore, this allocation is very important. I believe the JSC will do a good job to ensure that they have competent, qualified and uncorrupt judges. I s…

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Hon. Temporary Chairlady (Hon. Martha Wangari)

Thank you. Hon. Keynan.

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Hon. Adan Keynan (Eldas, JP)

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, the JSC is the administrative arm of our justice system. We must fund them so that they can hold the judges and other judicial officers to account, and play their constitutional role effectively. I support.

[(Programme 0619000 agreed to)]

[(Vote 2051 agreed to)]

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Hon. Temporary Chairlady (Hon. Martha Wangari)

Hon. Mishi.

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Hon. Mishi Mboko (Likoni, ODM)

Ahsante, Mhe. Mwenyekiti wa Muda. Hiyo Vote 2041 ni muhimu sana kwa sababu inasimamia mambo mengi katika Bunge letu. Wakati tulipunguza fedha katika vitengo tofauti kwa sababu ya uchumi wa Kenya, hii Vote ilipunguzwa sana. Mambo mengi ambayo yanahusu Bunge letu katika nyanja tofauti yalitatizika. Ni muhimu sana iongezewe ili matakwa yetu na shughuli zetu za Bunge ambazo zinapitia kwa Tume hii ya B…

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Hon. Mishi Mboko (Likoni, ODM)

Naunga mkono.

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Hon. Temporary Chairlady (Hon. Martha Wangari)

Hon. Tindi.

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Hon. Nicholas Mwale (Butere, ODM)

Hon. Temporary Chairlady…Mwenyekiti wa Muda, nitaendeleza kwa kunena ya kwamba…

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Hon. Temporary Chairlady (Hon. Martha Wangari)

Kanuni za Bunge zinasema haufai kuchanganya lugha. Ukianza kwa Kiswahili, umalizie kwa Kiswahili.

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Hon. Nicholas Mwale (Butere, ODM)

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Hon. Temporary Chairlady (Hon. Martha Wangari)

‘Madam’ sio lugha ya Kiswahili. Endelea.

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Hon. Nicholas Mwale (Butere, ODM)

Nimesema Bi. Spika. Ahsante sana, Mhe. Mwenyekiti wa muda. Ninamuunga mkono mwenzangu, Mhe. Mishi Mboko kwa kunena kwamba hii Vote ambayo inahusisha…

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Hon. Temporary Chairlady (Hon. Martha Wangari)

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Hon. Adan Keynan (Eldas, JP)

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, the Parliamentary Service Commission (PSC) plays a very important role in the welfare of the Members of Parliament and members of staff. At times, when I look at the newspaper, it is like they assume Members do not exist. There is nothing to fear. It is a high time we support the Commission and the Commissioners, because without them, there is no Parliament. Therefore, th…

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Hon. Temporary Chairlady (Hon. Martha Wangari)

Thank you very much.

[(Programmes 0765000 and 0766000 agreed to)]

[(Vote 2041 agreed to)]

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Hon. Temporary Chairlady (Hon. Martha Wangari)

30th June 2025 in respect of Vote 2043 (Parliamentary Joint Services) be increased by a sum not exceeding Ksh416,000,000.

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Hon. Temporary Chairlady (Hon. Martha Wangari)

Hon. (Dr) Nyikal.

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Hon. (Dr) James Nyikal (Seme, ODM)

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, as I support this, I notice that Sub-Vote 047600 on Legislative Training, Research, and Knowledge Management, has not really received any support and particularly, research. This is extremely important in legislation. Maybe, it is just me; but I wonder whether many other Members realise that research has not been supported as much. There is a lot of bureaucracy if you wan…

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Hon. Temporary Chairlady (Hon. Martha Wangari)

Very well. Hon. Mishi.

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Hon. Mishi Mboko (Likoni, ODM)

Mhe. Mwenyekiti wa Muda, naunga mkono Mgao wa 2043 kwa sababu kitengo hiki ndicho kinasimamia wafanyikazi wa Mabunge yetu mawili: Bunge la Seneti na Bunge la Kitaifa. Mgao huu pia ndio unasimamia kuangalia miradi katika Mabunge yetu na maeneo yetu ya Mabunge. Hivi sasa, kuna mabadiliko mengi yamefanyika katika Mabunge yetu; na pia, tunaendelea kuona mengi yakifanyika. Mambo ya usalama wetu katik…

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Hon. Temporary Chairlady (Hon. Martha Wangari)

Hon. Tindi, you have known ni Mgao, the Vote.

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Hon. Nicholas Mwale (Butere, ODM)

The Vote? Yes.

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Hon. Temporary Chairlady (Hon. Martha Wangari)

You need to pay Hon. Mishi tuition fee.

[(Programmes 0723000 and 0746000 agreed to)]

[(Vote 2043 agreed to)]

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Hon. Gladys Boss (Uasin Gishu County, UDA)

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move that the Committee of Supply do report to the House its consideration of the Second Supplementary Estimates for the Financial Year 2024/2025 and its approval thereof with amendments. Thank you.

[(Question proposed)]

[(Question put and agreed to)]

[(The House resumed)]

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)

Hon. Chairperson.

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Hon. Martha Wangari (Gilgil, UDA)

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to report that the Committee of Supply has considered the Second Supplementary Estimates for the Financial Year 2024/2025 and approved the same with amendments, and, pursuant to the provisions of Article 223 of the Constitution, Section 39 of the Public Finance Management Act, 2012, and Standing Order 243, approves an overall increase in the total budget for the Finan…

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng)

Let us have the Mover, Hon. Deputy Speaker.

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Hon. Gladys Boss (Uasin Gishu County, UDA)

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Report of the Committee of Supply in its consideration of the Second Supplementary Estimates for the Financial Year 2024/2025 and, pursuant to the provisions of Article 223 of the Constitution, Section 39 of the Public Finance Management Act, 2012 and Standing Order 243, approves an overall increase in the total budget of the F…

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Hon. Gladys Boss (Uasin Gishu County, UDA)

June 2025 in respect of Vote 1013 (Office of the Prime Cabinet Secretary) be increased by a sum not exceeding Kshs. 233,400,000.

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Hon. Gladys Boss (Uasin Gishu County, UDA)

Technology and Digital Economy) be reduced by a sum not exceeding Kshs.

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Hon. Gladys Boss (Uasin Gishu County, UDA)

2025 in respect of Vote 1162 (State Department for Livestock) be reduced by a sum not exceeding Kshs. 1,837,950,250.

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Hon. Gladys Boss (Uasin Gishu County, UDA)

THAT, further to the Supplementary Appropriation (No.2) Act, 2024, the sum allocated to meet the expenditure (Recurrent and Development) for the year 30th June 2025 in respect of Vote 1176 (State Department for Micro, Small and Medium Enterprises Development) be increased by a sum not exceeding Kshs. 402,500,000.

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Hon. Gladys Boss (Uasin Gishu County, UDA)

2025 in respect of Vote 1202 (State Department for Tourism) be increased by a sum not exceeding Kshs. 4,155,787,999.

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Hon. Gladys Boss (Uasin Gishu County, UDA)

2025 in respect of Vote 2011 (Kenya National Commission on Human Rights) be increased by a sum not exceeding Kshs. 5,000,000.

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Hon. Gladys Boss (Uasin Gishu County, UDA)

PARLIAMENT

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Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA)

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I second.

[(Loud consultations)]

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)

Order, Hon. Members! You will vote the wrong way because you are not listening. Hon. Members, there is an amendment.

[(Question proposed)]

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Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA)

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Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move

THAT, the Motion for agreement with the Report of the Committee of Supply on its consideration of the Second Supplementary Estimates for the Financial Year

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Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move

2024/2025 be amended by inserting the words, “subject to recommittal of Votes 1173 and 1174”. I also request Hon. Owen Baya to second the Motion for recommittal.

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Hon. Owen Baya (Kilifi North, UDA)

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I second the Motion for recommittal.

[(Question of the amendment proposed)]

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)

Should I put the Question?

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Hon. Members

Yes! The House resolved accordingly: THAT, the House do agree with the Report of the Committee of Supply in its consideration of the Second Supplementary Estimates for the Financial Year 2024/2025 and, pursuant to the provisions of Article 223 of the Constitution, Section 39 of the Public Finance Management Act, 2012 and Standing Order 243, approves an overall increase in the total budget of the…

[(Question, that the words to be inserted be inserted, put and agreed to)]

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)

Next Order.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)

Programme 0304000 – Co-operative Development and Management

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Hon. Gladys Boss (Uasin Gishu County, UDA)

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move: THAT, the First Schedule to the Order Paper be amended – In Vote 1173 by deleting the figure Ksh4,830,408,765 in Column 9 under the programme 0304000 Co-operative Development and Management, and substituting thereof therefor the figure Ksh5,330,408,765. The Temporary Chairlady : Hon. Oundo.

[(State Department for Co-operatives)]

[(Gross Current Estimates)]

[(Question of the amendment proposed)]

[(Hon. Martha Wangari)]

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Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo (Funyula, ODM)

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, our normal practice is that the Mover of an amendment should provide more information. She has clearly said that she is substituting figures. The common mwananchi needs to know what we are talking about. What does co-operative development and management mean to the common mwananchi? Let the Mover explain clearly and give reasons. The Temporary Chairlady : Leader of the …

[(Hon. Martha Wangari)]

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Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA)

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, for your information, that was just an error. Instead of increasing the Vote by Ksh500 million, it was increased by Ksh500,000. We are just correcting a typographical error. It is the same case for the subsequent amendment that will be moved. The Temporary Chairlady : We are tidying up the Estimates.

[(Hon. Martha Wangari)]

[(Programme 0304000 as amended agreed to)]

[(Vote 1173 as amended agreed to)]

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Hon. Gladys Boss (Uasin Gishu County, UDA)

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move: THAT, the First Schedule to the Order Paper be amended – in Vote 1174 by deleting the figure Ksh3,480,037,327 in Column 9 under the programme 0309000 Domestic Trade and Enterprise Development, and substituting thereof therefor the figure Ksh3,280,037,327.

[(State Department for Trade)]

[(Gross Current Estimates)]

[(Question of the amendment proposed)]

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)

Hon. Chairperson.

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Hon. Martha Wangari (Gilgil, UDA)

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to report that the Committee of Supply has considered the Second Supplementary Estimates for the Financial Year 2024/2025 and approved the same with amendments and, pursuant to the provisions of Article 223 of the Constitution, Section 39 of the Public Finance Management Act, 2012 and Standing Order 243, approves an overall increase in the total budget for the Financi…

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)

Mover.

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Hon. Gladys Boss (Uasin Gishu County, UDA)

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Report of the Committee of Supply in its consideration of the Second Supplementary Estimates for the Financial Year 2024/2025 and, pursuant to the provisions of Article 223 of the Constitution, Section 39 of the Public Finance Management Act, 2012 and Standing Order 243, approves an overall increase in the total budget for the …

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Hon. Gladys Boss (Uasin Gishu County, UDA)

Executive, Parliament and the Judiciary during the year ending 30th June 2025 in respect of the Votes as contained in the Schedule. I ask Hon. Chepkong’a to second the Motion.

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Hon. Samuel Chepkong’a (Ainabkoi, UDA)

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I second.

[(Question proposed)]

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Hon. Members

Put the Question!

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)

If that is the feeling, I will, therefore, put the Question.

[(Question put and agreed to)]

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)

Next Order.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)

Mover. Is it the Chairperson of the Liaison Committee or Leader of the Majority Party?

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Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA)

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Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move

THAT, the Supplementary Appropriation Bill, (National Assembly Bill No. 8 of 2025) , be now read a Second Time. Everything that we said during the debate on the Report of the Committee yesterday is what I risk repeating today in this Bill. It is an exact replica of what we have just done in the Committee of Supply. I do not have anything to add other than what I said yesterday. In the interest of …

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Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo (Funyula, ODM)

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I stand to second. As I do so, I want to put two points straight home. Firstly, we are fairly late in the financial year. I hope and pray that the money meant for development projects will be absorbed, but not lost or taken back to the National Treasury. Secondly, we hope and pray that there will be adequate mechanism to ensure that the money that has been appro…

[(Question proposed)]

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Hon. Members

Put the Question.

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Hon. Gladys Boss (Uasin Gishu County, UDA)

Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move: THAT, the Bill be amended by deleting Clause 5, and substituting, therefore, the following new Clause— “The supply granted for the services of the year ending on 30th June 2025 in respect of votes R1014, R1016, R1054, R1091, R1112, R1162, R1173, R1203,

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Hon. Gladys Boss (Uasin Gishu County, UDA)

D1332 and D2141, in accordance with the Appropriation Act, 2024, and is reduced by the amount specified in the third column of the Second Schedule.” Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairman. (Question of the amendment proposed) (Question, that the words to be left out be left out, put and agreed to) (Question, that the words to be inserted in place thereof be inserted, put and agreed to)

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Hon. Gladys Boss (Uasin Gishu County, UDA)

Yes, I have an amendment. Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move: THAT, the First Schedule to the Bill be deleted and replaced with the following new Schedule— First Schedule

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Hon. Gladys Boss (Uasin Gishu County, UDA)

First Schedule

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Hon. Gladys Boss (Uasin Gishu County, UDA)

Is that the Second Schedule? I have an amendment to Clause 2 of the Bill. The Temporary Chairman : You have an amendment to the Second Schedule.

[(Hon. David Ochieng’)]

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Hon. Gladys Boss (Uasin Gishu County, UDA)

Yes, I have it. Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move: THAT, the Second Schedule to the Bill be amended and replaced with the new Schedule— Second Schedule

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Hon. Gladys Boss (Uasin Gishu County, UDA)

Second Schedule

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Hon. Gladys Boss (Uasin Gishu County, UDA)

Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move: THAT, Clause 2 of the Bill be amended by deleting the expression “one hundred and twenty-two billion, four hundred and twenty-eight million, nine hundred and seventy-four thousand, four hundred and nineteen shillings” appearing before the words “the sum of” and substituting therefor the expression, “one hundred and forty-one billion, nine hundred and sevent…

[(Question of the amendment proposed)]

[(Question, that the words to be left out be left out, put and agreed to)]

[(Question, that the words to be inserted in place thereof be inserted, put and agreed to)]

[(Clause 2 as amended agreed to)]

[(Hon. David Ochieng’)]

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Hon. Gladys Boss (Uasin Gishu County, UDA)

Thank you. I wish to confirm that the amendments that I have moved are under Standing Order 48. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairman. The Temporary Chairman : Thank you. The Temporary Chairman : We move reporting of this Bill. Mover.

[(Hon. David Ochieng’)]

[(Long title agreed to)]

[(Clause 1 agreed to)]

[(Hon. David Ochieng’)]

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Hon. Gladys Boss (Uasin Gishu County, UDA)

Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move that the Committee do report to the House its consideration of the Supplementary Appropriation Bill, (National Assembly Bill No. 8 of 2025) , and its approval thereof with amendments. The Temporary Chairman : Hon. Members, we will not report but move to the next Bill. Leader of the Majority Party, I hope you are around.

[(Question proposed)]

[(Question put and agreed to)]

[(Hon. David Ochieng’)]

[(Reporting deferred)]

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Hon. Gladys Boss (Uasin Gishu County, UDA)

Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move: THAT, Clause 5 of the Bill be amended in sub clause (4) by deleting the words “subsection 3 (d) and (e) ” and substituting therefor the words “subsection 3 (e) and (f) ”. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairman. The Temporary Chairman : Do you want to explain in a second what it means?

[(Hon. David Ochieng’)]

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Hon. Gladys Boss (Uasin Gishu County, UDA)

Do you want me to go to the next? The Temporary Chairman : No. State what the amendment is about.

[(Hon. David Ochieng’)]

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Hon. Gladys Boss (Uasin Gishu County, UDA)

It is just a correction of some typographical errors. (Question, that the words to be left out

[(Question of the amendment proposed)]

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Hon. Gladys Boss (Uasin Gishu County, UDA)

be left out, put and agreed to) (Question, that the words to be inserted in place thereof be inserted, put and agreed to)

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Hon. Gladys Boss (Uasin Gishu County, UDA)

Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move: THAT, the First Schedule to the Bill be deleted and replaced with the following new Schedule— Conditional Additional Allocations to County Governments from National Government’s Share of Revenue in FY 2024/25 (Kenya Shillings)

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Hon. Gladys Boss (Uasin Gishu County, UDA)

Conditional Additional Allocations to County Governments from National Government’s Share of Revenue in FY 2024/25 (Kenya Shillings)

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Hon. Gladys Boss (Uasin Gishu County, UDA)

Third Schedule THAT, the Third Schedule to the Bill be deleted and replaced with the following new Schedule— Conditional Additional Allocations from proceeds of loans or grants from Development Partners for Financial Year 2024/25 (Kenya Shillings)

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Hon. Gladys Boss (Uasin Gishu County, UDA)

Conditional Additional Allocations from proceeds of loans or grants from Development Partners for Financial Year 2024/25 (Kenya Shillings)

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Hon. Members

Put the question. The Temporary Chairman : Are you sure about that?

[(Hon. David Ochieng’)]

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Hon. Members

Yes.

[(Question, that the words to be left out be left out, put and agreed to)]

[(Question, that the words to be inserted in place thereof be inserted, put and agreed to)]

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Hon. Gladys Boss (Uasin Gishu County, UDA)

Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move that the Committee do report to the House its consideration of the County Governments Additional Allocations Bill, (National Assembly Bill No. 2 of 2025) , and its approval thereof with amendments. The Temporary Chairman : Hon. Members, we will now vacate reporting and move to the next Bill.

[(Question proposed)]

[(Question put and agreed to)]

[(Hon. David Ochieng’)]

[(Reporting deferred)]

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai)

Chairperson of Committee of the whole House, can we proceed?

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Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG)

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to report that a Committee of the whole House has considered the Supplementary Appropriation Bill, (National Assembly Bill No.8 of 2025) , and approved the same with amendments.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai)

Mover, can you move the motion of agreement?

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Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA)

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the report of the Committee of the whole House on its consideration of the Supplementary Appropriation Bill, (National Assembly Bill No.8 of 2025) . I request Hon. Oron to second.

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Hon. Joshua Oron (Kisumu Central, ODM)

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I second.

[(Question proposed)]

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai)

Let us move to the next Bill. I will give a few minutes for consultations.

[(The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted with the Temporary Speaker)]

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Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA)

Hon. Temporary Speaker, allow me to say something as you consult.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Racheal Nyamai)

Leader of Majority Party, what do you want to say?

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Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA)

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I just want to thank Members for availing themselves for this very important task of appropriating resources through the Supplementary Appropriation Bill. Once we finish with this business, tomorrow morning, we will avail more resources for expenditure to the people who have been waiting for the money. I know that many people have pending bills and have been told to wait f…

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Racheal Nyamai)

Thank you very much. Hon. Members, I defer putting the Question to a later day, when the matter will be scheduled for disposal by the House Business Committee.

[(Putting of the Question deferred)]

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Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG)

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to report that a Committee of the whole House has considered the County Governments Additional Allocations Bill, (National Assembly Bill No.2 of 2025) , and approved the same with amendments.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Racheal Nyamai)

Leader of the Majority Party, proceed.

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Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA)

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said report. I request Hon. Naomi Waqo to second the motion on agreement with the report of the Committee of the whole House.

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Hon. Naomi Waqo (Marsabit County, UDA)

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I second the motion.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Racheal Nyamai)

Hon. Members, I also defer putting of the Question to the next time the Bill will be scheduled for disposal.

[(Putting of the Question deferred)]

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Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG)

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to report that a Committee of the whole House has considered the Public Finance Management (Amendment) (No.2) , (National Assembly Bill No.26 of 2024) , and approved the same with amendments.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Racheal Nyamai)

Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning, can you move the motion for agreement with

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Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said report. I request Hon. Cynthia Muge, the great County Member of Parliament for Nandi, to second the motion.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Racheal Nyamai)

Hon. Cynthia, you may proceed.

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Hon. Cynthia Muge (Nandi County, UDA)

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I second the motion.

[(Question proposed)]

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai)

Hon. Members, I defer putting of the Question to another time.

[(Putting of the Question deferred)]

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Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG)

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to report that a Committee of the whole House has considered the Insurance Professionals Bill, (National Assembly Bill No.13 of 2024) , and approved the same with amendments.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Racheal Nyamai)

Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning.

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Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said report. I request Hon. David Mboni, the Member for Kitui Rural, to second the motion.

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Hon. David Mwalika (Kitui Rural, WDM)

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to second.

[(Question proposed)]

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Racheal Nyamai)

Hon. Members, I also defer putting of the Question on this Bill until next time.

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Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA)

On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Racheal Nyamai)

What is out of order, Leader of the Majority Party?

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Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA)

Hon. Temporary Speaker, there is nothing that is out of order. I rise pursuant to Standing Order 31, on adjournment of the House. Hon. Members will remember the substantive Speaker’s Communication that today we will be having a solidarity dinner with our colleagues of the Muslim faith. I, therefore, move that the House do now adjourn to tomorrow morning. We have amended our calendar and introduc…

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Hon. James K’Oyoo (Muhoroni, ODM)

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I second.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai)

Thank you very much, Member for Muhoroni.

[(Question proposed)]

[(Question put and agreed to)]

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai)

Hon. Members, the House stands adjourned until tomorrow Friday, 14th March 2025, at 10.00 am. The House rose at 5.47 pm.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai)

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