National Assembly · Afternoon Sitting

Thursday, 15 August 2024

Session Summary

Hon. Suleka Harun highlighted the deteriorating condition of the Ashabito solar mini‑grid, causing power outages that jeopardise health services, education and security in Mandera County. Members of the Energy Committee pledged to respond within five days, but emphasized the need for urgent replacement or upgrade of the system. The debate reflected both concern over the crisis and a constructive commitment to address it. Members sought a statement on the long‑standing Turkana‑Pokot conflict, with the majority leader promising a response within two weeks, while expressing frustration over unanswered questions and a missing constituency fund manager. The session also featured a youth parliamentarians’ address on the 2024 KYPA Bunge Youth Dialogue, emphasizing digital tools for governance and recommending actions before the House recessed. Members debated the lack of a response from KeRRA on emergency funds for road repairs in Baringo, with some urging immediate action while others highlighted procedural delays. The temporary speaker managed procedural items, including a request for a statement on the recent Mpox outbreak from the Health Committee. Tensions arose over perceived political influence and the need for timely government intervention.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)

I notice that Members are still streaming in. There is no quorum. Serjeant-at-Arms, ring the Quorum Bell for five minutes. Hon. Members, I can now confirm that we now quorate to transact business. Hon. Members who are on their feet, please, take your seats. Clerk-at-the-Table.

[(The Quorum Bell was rung)]

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)

Hon. Members, as you are all aware, the House approved the Motion on the Report of the Committee of the whole House on the consideration of the Senate amendments to the Sugar Bill, (National Assembly Bill No. 34 of 2022) , on Thursday, 1st August 2024. Notably, the Committee had rejected some of the Senate amendments to the Bill. This decision consequently committed the Bill to a mediation committ…

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)

Leader of the Majority Party.

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Hon. Owen Baya (Kilifi North, UDA)

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table:

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)

Thank you. The Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Trade, Industry and Co-operatives, Hon. Gakuya. The Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security. Hon. Raso is here.

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Hon. Ali Raso (Saku, UDA)

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to lay the following Paper on the Table: Report of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security on its attendance at the Commission on Narcotic Drugs Held in Vienna, Austria, from 14th to 22nd March 2024. Thank you. I beg to lay.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)

The Chairperson of the Diaspora and Migrant Workers Committee.

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Hon. Haika Mizighi (Taita Taveta County, UDA)

Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Paper on the Table: Report of the Diaspora and Migrant Workers Committee on the inquiry into the role and conduct of private employment agencies in the recruitment of migrant workers and placement of students abroad. I beg to lay.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)

Thank you, Hon. Haika. That marks the end of that Order. Do we have a Member who has been left out? What is it, Hon. Gitari?

[(Hon. Joseph Gitari spoke off the record)]

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Hon. Joseph Gitari (Kirinyaga Central, UDA)

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I am standing in for the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Lands. I have a Paper to lay.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)

Hon. Gitari, approach the Clerk-at- the-Table. Hon. Gichimu, you had something to say.

[(Hon. Joseph Gitari approached the Clerks-at-the-Table)]

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Hon. Gichimu Githinji (Gichugu, UDA)

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I am a member of the Departmental Committee on Trade, Industry & Co-operatives. The Chairperson was meant to table some papers. I wanted to hold his brief, but I am being informed by the Clerk- at-the-Table that they do not have the papers. I request that the matter be stood over until the next sitting.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)

Just inform your Chairperson that his attendance in the House is key. He will be allowed to lay the papers the next time the House sits. Hon. Gitari, you can take the next seat and lay the Paper. Hon. Gitari will lay the Paper on behalf of the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Lands.

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Hon. Joseph Gitari (Kirinyaga Central, UDA)

Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Paper on the Table:

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)

Thank you. Next Order.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)

In this Order, we have three Members who have notices of motions. Member for Nairobi City County, are you ready? Hon. Mwenje, allow the Member for Nairobi City County to be ready for this business. Hon. Passaris, are you ready to give notice of a motion? Okay. The Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Trade, Industry and Co- operatives. Hon. Haika, you have a notice of motion to give. Go …

[(Hon. Mark Mwenje consulted with Hon. Esther Passaris)]

[(Hon. Esther Passaris spoke off the record)]

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Hon. Haika Mizighi (Taita Taveta County, UDA)

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to give notice of the following Motion: THAT, this House adopts the Report of the Diaspora and Migrant Workers Committee on the inquiry into the role and conduct of private employment agencies in the recruitment of migrant workers and placement of students abroad, laid on the Table of the House on Thursday, 15th August 2024. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)

Thank you. Hon. Passaris, do you now have the notice of motion or we need to give you more time?

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Hon. Esther Passaris (Nairobi City County, ODM)

One more minute! It is being brought. Sorry, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

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Hon. Millie Odhiambo-Mabona (Suba North, ODM)

On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)

Okay. Whip of the Minority Party, you are recognised and welcomed to the House this afternoon. Go ahead.

[(Laughter)]

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Hon. Millie Odhiambo-Mabona (Suba North, ODM)

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for recognising me. I have two issues that I wish to raise. One relates to what you have just said on being the Whip of the Minority Party. I would like to seek guidance from the House leadership on my correct title. Am I the broad-based Whip or the main Whip? I know there are two: Broad-based Whip and main Whip. I think I am the main one. So, you can ask the Hou…

[(Laughter)]

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)

Order. Hon. Millie. You are quite okay, but can we finish because we are in the middle of Order No. 6? Nothing is out of order in Order No. 6. So, let us deal with that and then we come to you.

[(Laughter)]

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Hon. Esther Passaris (Nairobi City County, ODM)

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for your indulgence. I apologise. Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to give notice of the following Motion: THAT, aware that Article 43 (1) as read together with Article 53 (1) (b) of the Constitution provides that every person has the right to education and enshrines the right of every child to free and compulsory basic education; further aware that Kenya Vision 20…

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Hon. Esther Passaris (Nairobi City County, ODM)

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)

Thank you. Before I listen to Hon. Millie, I would like to re-organise the Order Paper, so that we consider Order No. 8 and 9, and then we come back and listen to Hon. Millie. Then, we will go back to Order No. 7.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)

Hon. Members, debate on this Motion was concluded.

[(Question put and agreed to)]

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)

Hon. Members, we have Members’ Questions and Statements. I will start with the Member for Manyatta Constituency. Just hold

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)

on. Let us start with Members who have requests for statements. Let us start with the Member for Kandara, Hon. Chege Njuguna. You can use the microphone next to you.

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Hon. Njuguna Chege (Kandara, UDA)

Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Hon. Temporary Speaker, pursuant to Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I wish to request for a statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security regarding the appointment and conduct of the Chairperson of Betting, Control and Licensing Board, one Ms. Jane Mwikali Makau. Ms Jane Mwikali Makau was appointed as…

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)

Thank you. Hon Members, because of the number of requests for statements today, we will not allow Members to comment on the requests. The next Member who has a request is the Member for North Horr, Hon. Adhe Wario. Sorry. Hon. Raso, before we move to the Hon. Member for North Horr, this is directed to your Committee.

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Hon. Ali Raso (Saku, UDA)

Thank you very much Hon. Temporary Speaker. I have heard what my colleague has presented as a request for a statement. It borders on a civil case but also it talks about a court ruling. As a Committee, we will have to sit. We will also not delay. We will dispatch it to the Ministry and then we will give the House feedback during the second week after recess, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)

Thank you. Hon. Njuguna, is that okay with you.

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Hon. Njuguna Chege (Kandara, UDA)

Thank you Hon. Temporary Speaker. I agree with the Member.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)

Thank you. So, two weeks after we resume from recess. Hon. Member for North Horr.

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Hon. Adhe Guyo (North Horr, KANU)

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I rise to request for a statement regarding the brutal and senseless killings of innocent and peace loving Kenyans along the Kenya-Ethiopia Border. Hon. Temporary Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I wish to request for a statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security regarding…

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)

Thank you. Hon. Raso.

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Hon. Ali Raso (Saku, UDA)

Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I am personally aware of what Hon. Adhe, the Member for North Horr has presented. The Ministry and the national Government are seized of that matter. The statement he has requested will be dealt with by the Committee. The Committee will deal with it as soon as it is practically possible. The Ministry is already seized of the matter.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)

Are there timelines?

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Hon. Ali Raso (Saku, UDA)

We do not want to give ourselves two weeks because we can give him feedback in a weeks’ time. The people on the ground are doing their work.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)

Thank you. The Member for North Horr, is that okay with you?

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Hon. Adhe Guyo (North Horr, KANU)

That is okay. I and the Vice-Chair are affected by this. I agree to the proposed time frame.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)

Thank you. The next Statement is from the Member for Fafi, Hon. Yakub.

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Hon. Farah Yakub (Fafi, UDA)

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I rise to request for a statement on behalf of Fafi Constituency. Pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request for a statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security regarding insecurity in Fafi Constituency. Fafi Constituency has, for a long time, witnessed a series of attacks b…

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)

Thank you, Hon. Member. By now, you know the drill. All the things that you wanted should have been captured in your request for a statement. There are no speeches after you have issued your request for a statement. Hon. Dido Raso, today is your day.

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Hon. Ali Raso (Saku, UDA)

Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Today we were vetting the nominee for the position of Inspector-General of the National Police. As you are fully aware, we also had the Cabinet Secretary for the Ministry of Interior before the Committee. That is one of the things that the Committee has been grappling with, particularly in the Arid and Semi-Arid Lands (ASALs) . Hon. Adhe, the Member for…

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)

Thank you. Hon. Yakub, the Hon. Member has told you what they are going to do. At that time, when they give their answer, you will tell them whether it is ‘desktop or laptop’ and then you deal with it at that level.

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Hon. Farah Yakub (Fafi, UDA)

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I was just emphasising that, so that the Committee can take the issue seriously. I have been crying in this House for the longest time. I hope this time round they will come up with the right answers. I also hope that they will visit the area to get the facts themselves. They have been sitting here listening to the Ministry only. We want them to go to the ground …

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)

Hon. Raso, you can carry the laptops to the ground so that the answers you give are not just laptop answers but real answers from the ground.

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Hon. Ali Raso (Saku, UDA)

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Hon. Yakub is aware that I am a former KDF officer and not just a decorated officer. Many of these issues that are being raised, particularly by the corner communities that live in far-flung areas like Turkana, Marsabit, Wajir, Garissa and Mandera. They are not new. That is why we are pushing the Ministry to re-look at its security architecture. What we have agai…

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)

Thank you. I think that is okay. Member for Garsen.

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Hon. Ali Wario (Garsen, ODM)

Hon. Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request for a statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Tourism and Wildlife regarding the indefinite closure of Malka-Halaku Corridor that runs between Tsavo East National Park and Galana Kulalu. Hon. Speaker, we appreciate that natural resources are a cornerstone for the attainment of Sustain…

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)

Thank you. That is quite a long one. The Chairperson of the Committee on Tourism and Wildlife? Any Member from that Committee?

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Hon. Khamis Chome (Voi, WDM)

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. The Chairman and Vice-Chairman of the Committee are not in the House. They went to Eldoret for the conferment of the city status. As a Committee, we will take up the matter after the recess. We will bring a statement to this House two weeks after the resumption.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)

Member for Garsen, I think that is reasonable.

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Hon. Ali Wario (Garsen, ODM)

Hon. Temporary Speaker, it is not reasonable because the people are suffering. There is severe drought there. People have no access to water. KWS officers are harassing and arresting people. They are denying people flowing water.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)

What would you rather the Committee does?

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Hon. Ali Wario (Garsen, ODM)

Hon. Temporary Speaker, the Committee should direct the KWS, as the President directed, to allow the community to access water immediately.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)

Hon. Khamis.

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Hon. Khamis Chome (Voi, WDM)

Hon. Temporary Speaker, the Committee is scheduled to meet next week on a different matter. I will talk to the Chairman and he will be able to give a more definite answer. At the moment, the only way we can bring a statement to this House is after the recess when the House is in session. Thank you.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)

Because of the urgency of the matter, Hon. Khamis, please communicate to your Chairman that the Hon. Member for Garsen be invited to your Committee and this matter be placed before it next week when it is sitting. I think that should be able to sort out the urgency of the matter. Hon. Nyamai, I had decided that we are not going to have Members comment on the statements. What is it you wanted to s…

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Hon. Rachael Nyamai (Kitui South, JP)

Hon. Temporary Speaker, thank you for allowing me to comment. I do not know how the Hon. Member for Garsen will take this. The matter he is raising is not only a matter of tourism or wildlife, but it is also a security issue. I am saying this because the Hon. Member is my neighbour. He talked about people being arrested on the side of Kitui and on the other side. One of the places he mentioned is …

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)

Thank you so much. The Member for Garsen, this is the last bite on this.

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Hon. Ali Wario (Garsen, ODM)

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. The ranking Member, who is also in the Speaker's Panel, did not understand the question. The question is not about the Kone-Kaliti issue. It is between Galana Kulalu and the Tsavo East National Park. I think you are obsessed with Kone-Kaliti, Hon. Nyamai. The Kone-Kaliti issue is different. In fact, it is not in my constituency. This is the Garsen Constituency. T…

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)

Thank you. The Member carrying a hand up, do you have a card? Go ahead.

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Hon. Said Hiribae (Galole, ODM)

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Let me remind the Member that Kone-Kaliti is in my constituency. It is not in her constituency. The people who are staying there are Ormas. There are no Ormas in Kitui.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)

Thank you. The Member for Kitui South is guided to bring a statement on that matter, if she wants it handled the way she proposes. This matter for now will go to the relevant committee, which is the Committee on Tourism and

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)

Wildlife. Then the matter will be handled with the relevant committee when a statement in regard to that is brought before the House. Hon. Members, before we move to the next statement, join me in welcoming students from Tingatela Comprehensive School in Kipkelion West in Kericho County, and students from Borowet Primary School in Kipkelion West, Kericho County. They are seated in the Public Gall…

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Hon. Titus Khamala (Lurambi, ODM)

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request for a statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Agriculture and Livestock, regarding the reduction of sugarcane prices by the Agriculture and Food Authority (AFA) . The Agriculture and Food Authority was established under Section 3 of the Agriculture and Food Author…

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)

Before I allow the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Agriculture and Livestock to respond, the Member for Kakamega has a related question. I will allow her to proceed. You do not have to go through your question the way he has done. You can just go through the areas you think he has left out.

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Hon. Elsie Muhanda (Kakamega County, ODM)

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I take this early lead to congratulate Hon. Millie Odhiambo “Anguka Nayo” as our new Minority Whip. As women, we are very proud of her. Hon. Temporary Speaker, I rise to request for a statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Agriculture and Livestock regarding the interim cane price for the month of August 2024, as set out by the Agricultu…

[[The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) left the Chair] [The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai) took the Chair]]

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai)

Thank you, Hon. Elsie Muhanda. Is the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Agriculture and Livestock, Hon. Mutunga, in the House?

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Hon. (Dr) John K. Mutunga (Tigania West, UDA)

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I have heard what the Hon. Member has asked. We can bring a report the first week after recess.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai)

Hon. Members, in the interest of time, I will stick to the guidance that had been given earlier that we do not make comments because we have so many statements to go. Hon. Elsie, your statement will be responded to the first week after recess. Is that alright with you? Put it on record, please. No! We have already passed that. Hon. K’Oyoo, you are out of order. You are not going to comment on thi…

[(Hon. James K’Oyoo spoke off the record)]

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Hon. Dorice Donya (Kisii County, WDM)

Hon. Temporary Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request for a statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Education and Research regarding the school start time in the country. Hon. Temporary Speaker, our school-going children are subjected to early mornings in a bid to start classes on time. It is unfortunate to note that the majori…

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Hon. Dorice Donya (Kisii County, WDM)

and an increase in depressive symptoms including suicidal ideation, among other behaviours. Sleep deprivation also has long-term physical and mental health consequences such as diabetes, cardio-vascular diseases and obesity. Hon. Temporary Speaker, Section 84 of the Basic Education Regulations of 2015 states that the official operating hours for all day public or private official school instituti…

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai)

Thank you, Member for Kisii. Is the Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Education and Research, Hon. Melly, in the House? Hon. Members, we agreed that we stick to the Ruling of the Speaker that there would be no comments because we have many statements. Any Member of the Departmental Committee on Education and Research? Hon. Clive.

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Hon. Clive Gisairo (Kitutu Masaba, ODM)

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. We will give a response in two weeks.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai)

Thank you very much. Member for Kisii, is that in order with you?

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Hon. Dorice Donya (Kisii County, WDM)

Though it was a bit urgent, we have ten days for the schools to reopen, and I am worried. I wanted that attention to be taken keenly on what time children should be going to school and when they are supposed to leave. I am told some students wake up at 3.30 a.m. What are you doing in school at 3.30 a.m.? You get fatigued and you know the Gen Zs are saying they do not fear death. Maybe, they have e…

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai)

Okay, take your seat Member for Kisii. The matter you are raising is important and urgent. However, you sought a statement and the only way to get it is by having it brought to the House. The Member seated next to you has been kind enough to take the statement on behalf of the Chairman. It will be responded to in the first week after we open. Hon. Members, we have a Statement by Member for Ijara.…

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Hon. Abdi Ali Abdi (Ijara, NAP-K)

Hon. Temporary Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request for a statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security regarding the brutal attack of herders in Gababa Location in Ijara Constituency.

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Hon. Abdi Ali Abdi (Ijara, NAP-K)

Hon. Temporary Speaker, on 13th August 2024, two herders from Ijara Constituency, Mr Resora Abdi Muhamed of ID number 34595419 and Mr Burow Hassan Muhamed of ID number 34602136 were brutally attacked in Tabatak area, Gababa Location, which borders Galole Constituency in Tana River County. The herders were grazing their cattle when they were assaulted by eight National Police Reservists (NPRs) acco…

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai)

Thank you, Member for Ijara. Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security, when will you respond to that request for statement?

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Hon. Ali Raso (Saku, UDA)

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. It will be available two weeks after we resume from recess. The statement that has been sought by Hon. Abdi is a very important one.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai)

Thank you. Hon. Abdi, you will get the response two weeks after the recess.

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Hon. Abdi Ali Abdi (Ijara, NAP-K)

Thank you very much.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai)

Thank you. Hon. Suleka Harun, Nominated Member.

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Hon. Joseph Lekuton (Laisamis, UDM)

Hon. Temporary Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request for a statement from the Chairperson of

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Hon. Joseph Lekuton (Laisamis, UDM)

the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning regarding the operations and performance of the Unclaimed Financial Assets Authority (UFAA). The UFAA was established under Section 39 of the Unclaimed Financial Assets Act, Cap. 494. It plays a crucial role in safeguarding unclaimed financial assets held by various entities such as banks, insurance companies, pension funds and other fin…

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai)

Thank you very much, Member for Laisamis. The Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning is not in House because of the way things are today. Is the Vice-Chairman or any Member of the Committee in the House? Yes, you may proceed.

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Hon. John Namoit (Turkana South, ODM)

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I have spoken to Hon. Chairman. He has told me that he would respond to the request for statement the second week after recess. Thank you.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai)

Thank you, Hon. Namoit. Is that agreeable to you, Member for Laisamis?

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Hon. Joseph Lekuton (Laisamis, UDM)

No objection, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai)

Hon. John Kiarie, Member for Dagoretti South. I cannot see him where he normally sits. The assumption is that he has withdrawn from the Chamber. We will move to the next one. Hon. Joshua Kandie, Member for Baringo Central.

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Hon. Joshua Kandie (Baringo Central, UDA)

Hon. Temporary Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request for a statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Transport and Infrastructure regarding the deteriorating state of roads within Baringo Central Constituency.

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Hon. Joshua Kandie (Baringo Central, UDA)

The Kenya Rural Roads Authority (KeRRA) is responsible for the development, rehabilitation, management and maintenance of rural roads. In carrying out those functions, KeRRA receives funds as appropriated by the National Assembly. Rehabilitation of roads is expected to be regular and as when required due to damages that may arise from time to time. Rainfall experienced in the last few months has c…

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai)

Thank you very much, Hon. Joshua Kandie. Is the Chairman or Vice-Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Transport and Infrastructure in the House? Is there a Member of this Committee? Hon. TJ Kajwang’, I have been informed that you are the one to respond to this matter. You may proceed.

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Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM)

Yes, I am, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I am a ranking Member of this Committee. I have understood the concerns of the Member. We will fast-track that response within two weeks after we come back from recess. I have heard that children will go back to school and the roads are dilapidated. I am not sure, if the Member’s concerns would be ameliorated within those two weeks. However, we will respond two w…

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai)

Thank you very much, Hon. Kajwang’. You are indeed a ranking Member of this House. Hon. Joshua, are you okay with the two weeks?

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Hon. Joshua Kandie (Baringo Central, UDA)

I am okay, but I will be very happy if they can contact the Director-General of KeRRA, so that he can do something using emergency funds.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai)

Hon. Kajwang’.

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Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM)

Whereas we cannot speak about the funds, automatically the first thing we do is to call the agencies. In fact, we do not have any response.

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Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM)

I am just a normal Member like you. I have no more information than you do. We call those agencies and bring in verbatim response that they give us. If the issue of funds will arise, this Member will be called to this Committee to state his issues in the presence of KeRRA. If there are some funds that he is aware of, then we will be very happy because Baringo people will benefit. Thank you.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai)

You will bring a response the second week after we come back from recess. Hon. Owen Baya.

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Hon. Owen Baya (Kilifi North, UDA)

Hon. Temporary Speaker, Hon. Kandie is my very good friend, and he is almost a ranking Member. He is the one who controls KeRRA in his constituency. If a road is dilapidated, he needs to call the Director-General and they can fix it without waiting for the recess to end and then a further two weeks and yet, the children will go to school the next day. This is something that he can do within the d…

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Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM)

On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai)

Is it a point of order or you would like to discuss this matter? What is out of order, Hon. Kajwang’?

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Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM)

Let us not allow this statement to go in The Hansard. If Members take phones and call people out there, let it not go in The Hansard. Whether Hon. Kandie is on the other side or this one, he is just a legislator like all of us. He has no more powers than I do, even when he is in the Majority Party. All of us oversee those people. It is, in my view, very unfortunate that the leader puts it in The H…

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai)

In the interest of time, I order that the response should be brought in the second week. Hon. Caleb Amisi, Member of Saboti, has a request for a statement to the Departmental Committee on Transport and Infrastructure.

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Hon. Members

Absent.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai)

He may have withdrawn from the House. I may not be able to know if he is absent. I think he has withdrawn from the Chamber. I am informed that Hon. Njoki will present the request for statement of Hon. Justice Kemei, Member for Sigowet/Soin. You may proceed.

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Hon. Pamela Njeru (Embu County, UDA)

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I am here to represent Hon. Justice Kemei. Pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I wish to request for a statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Health regarding the recent outbreak of Mpox in East and Central Africa. The Ministry of Health recently confirmed the country's first Mpox case, an infectious disease commonl…

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Hon. Pamela Njeru (Embu County, UDA)

Alarmingly, the Democratic Republic of Congo has reported nearly thousands of infections and even deaths related to Mpox in the recent past. However, there has not been ample response by the Ministry to that potential health crisis. Given the serious nature of that health threat, it is imperative that we discuss the situation urgently. It is against this background that I request for a statement …

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai)

Thank you very much, Hon. Njoki Njeru. The Speaker has given permission to Hon. Machua Waithaka to say something as a follow-up to this. Is Hon. Machua in the House? That is okay. We proceed. I can see that the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Health is not here. The Vice-Chairperson? Any Member of this Committee in the House? Deputy Leader of Majority Party.

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Hon. Owen Baya (Kilifi North, UDA)

We will respond in two weeks after opening. I will let Hon. Pukose know about that request for statement so that they can follow up. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai)

Thank you very much. Hon. Njoki Njeru, is that acceptable?

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Hon. Pamela Njeru (Embu County, UDA)

That is okay, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Thank you.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai)

Thank you very much. The Hon. Member from Mbeere, Hon. Geoffrey Ruku, you have a request for statement. He seems to have withdrawn from the Chamber. In that case, we proceed to the Hon. Wanami Wamboka, Member for Bumula. You have a request for statement. You may proceed.

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Hon. Wanami Wamboka (Bumula, DAP-K)

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) . I wish to request for a statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Defence, Intelligence and Foreign Relations regarding the disparities in the recruitment by the Kenya Defence Forces. The Kenya Defence Forces annually recruits general service officers. That recruitment initiative is …

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Hon. Wanami Wamboka (Bumula, DAP-K)

more regrettable that among the youth that were recruited, some claimed to be from Bumula Constituency, but their records reflect otherwise. Hon. Temporary Speaker, it is against this background that I request for a statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Defence, Intelligence and Foreign

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai)

Thank you very much Member for Bumula. Chairperson, Departmental Committee on Defence and Foreign Relations? Vice- Chairperson or any Member of that Committee? In the absence of all, I would like to ask Hon. Owen Baya to respond to the request for statement by the Hon. Wanami Wamboka on behalf of the Chairperson. When will Hon. Wamboka get a response?

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Hon. Owen Baya (Kilifi North, UDA)

Hon. Wamboka being my friend, I will gladly ask that in two weeks after resuming from the recess. I will ask Hon. Koech to fast track the request for statement. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai)

Thank you. Hon. Wamboka, is that acceptable with you?

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Hon. Wanami Wamboka (Bumula, DAP-K)

Indeed, Hon. Baya is my partner in crime. We do so many things together. That thing affects very many Members. I am seated with Hon. Kibagendi here and he confirms that a majority of the people who were recruited in his constituency were not from there. What I would want my good brother in crime to do - in Christ - is to have a comprehensive answer. I agree with him on the two weeks.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai)

Order, Hon. Wanami. Did

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Hon. Wanami Wamboka (Bumula, DAP-K)

I said, “my brother in Christ” because we fellowship together in the same church. The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai) : I ask the Clerks-at-the-Table to check whether you said, “brother in crime”. Would you like to withdraw if you said that?

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Hon. Wanami Wamboka (Bumula, DAP-K)

In case I said, “crime”, it was a slip of the tongue.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai)

Would you like to withdraw?

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Hon. Wanami Wamboka (Bumula, DAP-K)

I withdraw because he is indeed my brother-in-Christ.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai)

Alright.

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Hon. Wanami Wamboka (Bumula, DAP-K)

My point, Hon. Temporary Speaker, is that this affects almost every constituency. My brother-in-Christ, please, ensure that the Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Defence. Intelligence and Foreign Relations gives us a comprehensive answer. Two weeks after recess is agreeable.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai)

Thank you very much, Hon. Wamboka. Hon. Gonzi Rai, Member for Kinango. Is Hon. Gonzi Rai in the House? Since he has withdrawn from the Chamber, we proceed to Hon. Danson Mwashako, Member for Wundanyi.

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Hon. Danson Mwashako (Wundanyi, WDM)

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I rise on behalf of myself and my colleague Hon. Khamis Chome. Hon. Temporary Speaker, I rise pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , to request for a statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security regarding the alarming rise in motorbike theft and killing of bodaboda riders in Taita Taveta County. Ho…

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai)

Thank you very much, Hon. Mwashako. Hon. Members, for the record, Hon. Khamis Chome associates himself with the Statement that has been made by Hon. Mwashako. The Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security has withdrawn from the Chamber and the Vice-Chairman is not here. Do we have a Member of that Committee? In the absence of any Member from the Committee, Hon.…

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Hon. Owen Baya (Kilifi North, UDA)

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I sympathise with the people of Taita Taveta for the problems in the bodaboda industry. Having said that, I commit that I will inform Hon. Tongoyo to respond within two weeks. But this is something that probably requires an urgent operational kind of action. Therefore, I may also ask officers at Vigilance House to do something as we wait for the response. We than…

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Hon. Owen Baya (Kilifi North, UDA)

Thank you, Hon. Speaker.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai)

Two weeks after recess. Hon. Mwashako and Hon. Khamis?

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Hon. Danson Mwashako (Wundanyi, WDM)

Let me allow my colleague Hon. Khamis Chome to say whether that is proper.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai)

Hon. Khamis, you limit yourself to the timelines.

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Hon. Khamis Chome (Voi, WDM)

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I join Hon. Mwashako in condemning the brutal and senseless murders of our bodaboda operators. The time limit given, because we want a sufficient response, is adequate in our opinion, given that the Deputy Leader of the Majority Party has promised to prompt the security agencies into action, while we are waiting for the statement. That will bring back confidence …

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai)

Very well, Member for Voi. Hon. Member for Tiaty, Hon. William Kamket. Hon. William Kamket seems to have withdrawn from the Chamber and so, we skip that. Hon. Clive Gisairo, Member for Kitutu Masaba.

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Hon. Clive Gisairo (Kitutu Masaba, ODM)

Hon. Temporary Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request for a statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Transport and Infrastructure regarding aircraft safety in the country. Hon. Temporary Speaker, on 5th March 2024, a catastrophic mid-air collision occurred involving two aircrafts, a Cessna 172M aircraft, registration 5Y-NNJ, carr…

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai)

Thank you, Hon. Clive. Hon. Members, in the absence of the Chairman and the Vice-Chairman, I give a chance to Hon. Baya to respond on behalf of the Leader of the Majority Party.

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Hon. Owen Baya (Kilifi North, UDA)

Hon. Clive, I will inform the Chairman so that you can receive a response within two weeks after the resumption of the House. Thank you.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai)

Thank you, Deputy Leader of the Majority Party. Hon. Clive?

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Hon. Clive Gisairo (Kitutu Masaba, ODM)

I am most obliged, Hon. Temporary Speaker. However, knowing that this happened in a busy airspace around Nairobi, it is important that we take this matter seriously. That time, the accident may have cost us two lives, which is already too many. If this matter is not taken seriously, it may lead to an incursion between a major airliner heading to JKIA and another one departing from Wilson Airport.

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Hon. John Namoit (Turkana South, ODM)

Hon. Temporary Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I wish to request for a statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security regarding the strategy to address and resolve the long-standing conflict between the Turkana and the Pokot communities. Turkana and West Pokot counties have been plagued by an inter-communal co…

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai)

Thank you, Hon. Ariko. The Chairman and the Vice-Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security have withdrawn from the Chamber. Let me give this chance to Hon. Owen Baya to speak on behalf of the Leader of the Majority Party.

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Hon. Owen Baya (Kilifi North, UDA)

Thank you, Hon. Ariko. I will speak to the Chairman, Hon. Tongoyo, on the same so that we can get a response within two weeks after we resume from recess.

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Hon. John Namoit (Turkana South, ODM)

Hon. Temporary Speaker, as I agree with Hon. Baya, it is quite unfortunate that we have raised a number of Questions in this House, but we have not received any responses. The Committee had gone round the volatile areas but up to now, no findings have been brought to this House. In addition, I had requested for a statement regarding the abduction of my constituency fund manager but to date, no res…

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai)

Hon. Ariko, what I can do now is to focus on the current request. We will stick to the timeline of two weeks as guided by the Deputy Leader of the Majority. The Speaker has already ruled that we do not make comments in the interest of time. So, I will not give you a chance. I now give the Floor to Hon. George Mukunji, the Member for Manyatta and Chairperson of the Kenya Young Parliamentarians Ass…

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Hon. Gitonga Mukunji (Manyatta, UDA)

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I am Gitonga Mukunji John, not George. We have George Murugara Gitonga and John Mukunji Gitonga.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai)

That is noted.

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Hon. Gitonga Mukunji (Manyatta, UDA)

Hon. Temporary Speaker, this being the International Youth Week, I rise to read a General Statement regarding the 2024 Kenya Young Parliamentary Association (KYPA) -Bunge Youth Dialogue. Pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 43, I rise to make a Statement regarding the Kenya Young Parliamentarians Association (KYPA) Bunge Youth Dialogue 2024, which took place on Monday, 12th August 2024, a…

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Hon. Gitonga Mukunji (Manyatta, UDA)

transparent and accountable political processes at both local and national levels, responsive political decisions can be achieved. Hon. Temporary Speaker, on 12th August 2024, KYPA had the privilege of hosting 80 youths from across Kenya, representing diverse political parties, youth-serving organisations, universities and civil society groups. Under the sub-theme "From Clicks to Progress: Youth'…

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai)

Thank you very much, Hon. John Mukunji. Congratulations on the good work that you are doing with the young people, and also for preparing them for future leadership. Hon. Members, I know that this is a matter that has a lot of interest, especially with the young parliamentarians. However, because of the business that we have, and bearing in mind that we are going on recess today, I will give a ch…

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Hon. Irene Mayaka (Nominated, ODM)

Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I want to join our Chairperson in commemorating that very important period for the young people of the world. Some of us are millennials but we acknowledge that the Gen. Z of this country have had so much influence on young people in the rest of the world in the sense

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Hon. Irene Mayaka (Nominated, ODM)

that they have been very aware of the issues that affect their country. They have had a conversation that has stirred even us leaders to think in the right direction. I want to encourage young people that even when we are told that we are the leaders of tomorrow, we should insist that we are the leaders of now. Therefore, the young people of this country need to take ownership in terms of leadersh…

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai)

Thank you. Leader of the Majority Party, let us have the Thursday Statement, pursuant to Standing Order 44 (2) .

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Hon. Owen Baya (Kilifi North, UDA)

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. It has been a long wait, indeed, but we are finally here. First, I would like to congratulate the gallant lady for having been given the chance to be a Whip. Geza geza, you are welcome to the leadership of the House. It will be a pleasure to serve and learn from you. Hon. Temporary Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order44 (2) (a) , I rise to issu…

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Hon. Owen Baya (Kilifi North, UDA)

work. I want to thank all Member for their dedication because this House has passed critical businesses during this Session. I thank everybody. With regard to the business as from Tuesday, 17th September 2024, when we resume our sittings, the House is expected to consider the Second Reading of the Coffee Bill. We expected the Bill yesterday, but it was not considered. Today, I am not so sure whet…

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai)

Thank you very much, Deputy Leader of the Majority Party. Next Order.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai)

Thank you very much. Hon. Murugara, Member for Tharaka.

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Hon. George Murugara (Tharaka, UDA)

Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for giving me the opportunity to debate this Bill. The Bill originated from the Senate and the Members started debating it yesterday. This morning, we walked into a very sensational Report by one media house on the Mung Beans Bill, popularly known as the Dengu Bill, and in American English, the Green Grams Bill. The Mung Beans Bill had been debated in…

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Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo (Funyula, ODM)

On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai)

Order, Hon. Member for Tharaka. I know you are very enthusiastic on this subject just as many Members are, but there is a point of order by Hon. Wilberforce Oundo, Member for Funyula. What is out of order, Hon Member?

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Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo (Funyula, ODM)

Hon. Temporary Speaker, my good colleague is debating a very important Bill that touches on the lifestyle of so many people. I rise under Standing Order 35. Looking around the Chamber, we obviously do not have quorum to debate such an important Bill. I, therefore, seek your guidance.

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An Hon. Member

Wewe enda recess.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai)

Once a Member says there is no quorum, I would have to go ahead and order the Bell to be rung for ten minutes.

[(The Quorum Bell was rung)]

[(Several Members left the Chamber)]

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai)

Hon. Members, when the Bell is being rung, our Standing Orders do not allow you to leave. I, therefore, request that you stay in the Chamber and see whether we can raise quorum. Hon. Wanami, we have another seven minutes to decide.

[(Hon. Wanami Wamboka left the Chamber)]

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai)

I order the Serjeant-at-Arms to stop the Bell. Ten minutes have expired. Thank you very much, Hon. Members.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai)

Hon. Members, the time being