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A certified version of this Report To this end, the Committee is expected to immediately commence their approval process, notify the nominee and the general public of the time and place for holding the approval hearing. Thereafter, upon conclusion of the approval hearing, the Committee should Table its report on Tuesday, 4th November 2025 to enable the House to consider the matter within the pres…

Hon. Owen, on behalf of the Leader of the Majority Party, kindly give me a minute to recognise schools whose learners are present in the galleries. They have to leave early. Hon. Members on their feet, I will give you a minute to take your seats. Hon. Members, I wish to recognise learners from the following schools. They are seated in the Public Gallery: Olkiriane Secondary School from Narok Sou…

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Hon, Owen, you may proceed on behalf of the Leader of the Majority Party to lay papers.

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. On behalf of the Members of Parliament I welcome all the schools and guests to this honourable House. Hon. Deputy Speaker, I beg to lay the following papers on the Table:

Next Order.

Hon. Aden Wario, Member for North Horr. Are you ready? You may proceed.

Hon. Deputy Speaker, pursuant to provision of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request for a Statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security regarding the persistent conflicts facing constituents of North Horr. Since August 2022, the people of Shurr, Hawaie, Balesbura, Bisik, Sarimo and Qorqa communities in North Horr have experienced over…

That stands committed to the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security. Is any Member of the Committee here? Hon. Rasso, when do you anticipate to give a response?

Thank you very much, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I come from the area and I am cognisant of what Hon. Wario has presented. As a Committee, we will give a response in two weeks.

Before we move to the next Request for a Statement, I know a few Members have asked when shall we have the Petition relating to cancer read out. Hon. Nyikal, I will have it back in the Order Paper in a short while once its typing is ready. I know that some of our guests here, the Kenya Network of Cancer Organisation, actually want to witness the Petition being read out. So, it will be coming very …

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Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Pursuant to Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request for a Statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security regarding the unfortunate death of Mr. Simon Warui while in police custody in Central Police Station, Mombasa County. Reports indicate that Mr. Warui, a 26-year-old Kenyan citizen of ID No. 37118817 who went m…

Chairperson, Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security, Hon. Raso.

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. What is on the lips of Kenyans is the issue of police brutality and impunity. What is unacceptable is for people in lawful custody to die or be killed. We will respond to the House in two weeks.

The next Request for a Statement is by the Member for Turkana County, Hon. Cecilia Ngetit.

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. Pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request for a Statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Education regarding withheld Kenya Certificate of Secondary Education (KCSE) certificates.

A certified version of this Report It is always the hope of secondary school leavers that after four years of hard work and perseverance, they will obtain their KCSE certificates and get the opportunity to realise their dreams. However, thousands of students who sat for KCSE examinations dating back as far as 2013 remain stranded due to withheld certificates, mainly because of unpaid school fees.…

Chairperson, the Departmental Committee on Education, you seem distracted by the Deputy Leader of the Majority Party. A request for a Statement has been read out relating to the withholding of school certificates.

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I will bring the response in the next two weeks.

The next Request for a Statement…

[(Hon. Gedion Ochanda spoke off the record)]

Yes, what is your point of order?

Not really a point of order, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I only wish to add some emphasis as the Chairman was responding regarding the time within which they will respond. I wanted to mention a few things. First, if you look at how school fees are currently structured, the real issue is not fees as such, but money for food, particularly lunch programmes in day schools. The costs schools incur mainly cove…

A certified version of this Report schools are ordered to release certificates without settling those debts, what happens to the suppliers? Second, in some schools, once this directive was issued, parents became slower in paying even the meal contributions, because they know certificates will still be released. Balancing this is difficult. Certificates must be given out immediately after students…

Tomorrow, we have the Cabinet Secretary for Education appearing before the House. Perhaps this can be raised as a rider question. Hon. Melly, you can address it when you bring the answer. Hon. Owen?

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. This matter has been before this House. I actually raised it earlier, and a decision was made and approved. There is already a circular to that effect. If the same question is raised again and a Statement is demanded, then calling the Cabinet Secretary to respond on something that already has a clear directive... I think the issue is not the decision itself but its …

The Member for Turkana, Hon. Cecilia Ngitit, has stated that schools are acting contrary to the circular. She has even quoted its date. We are fortunate that the Cabinet Secretary for Education will be here tomorrow. Hon. Cecilia can raise the matter as a rider so that it can be addressed conclusively.

What we will get is mere rhetoric. The Cabinet Secretary will explain himself and all that, but the problem will persist. I previously suggested in this House that we must delink tuition from examinations. They are handled by different entities. The Kenya National Examinations Council should have its own process, and results should be released directly to students, not to schools. We know schools …

We shall have the occasion to ask the questions tomorrow.

Hon. Deputy Speaker, if we distinguish examinations and tuition, we will get a panacea to it. Otherwise, it will just be the same vicious cycle. The same question will be asked and the same answer will be given, but nothing will happen. Our country should not move that way. We would like to see action taken on this matter. Hon. Melly should ensure it is enforced. Let him not just answer to some pu…

We will have a more productive discussion tomorrow as opposed to the speculation we are doing now, but we will definitely ensure we give permission to Hon. Cecilia. Let us proceed to the next Question.

On a point of order, Hon. Deputy Speaker.

What is your point of order, Hon. Dawood?

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I agree with Hon. Baya. We should link the Kenya National Examinations Council (KNEC) to eCitizen and de-link it from the Ministry of Education to enable students print out their certificates instead of going to the schools to pick them.

Thank you. Let us proceed to the next Request for a Statement by the Member for Wajir West, Hon. Yussuf Farah. Is he here? Oh, there you are.

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Hon. Deputy Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I wish to request for a Statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Energy regarding the status of oil and gas exploration in Wajir County. In 2014, an exploratory oil and gas drilling exercise in Wajir County indicated the presence of significant amounts of natural gas deposits, with preliminary es…

Is the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Energy here? Give him the microphone.

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. Give us two weeks to respond.

Thank you. Next is Request for a Statement by the Member for Kwale County, Hon. Fatuma Masito.

Hon. Deputy Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request for a statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Labour regarding employees’ payment of terminal dues and arrears and unfair labour practices by Amani Tiwi Beach Resort formerly known as Tiwi Beach Resort. Hon. Deputy Speaker, Article 41 (1) of the Constitution provides that every…

A certified version of this Report terminal dues. Regrettably to date, the affected individuals have not received the payments as ordered by the Court. Hon. Deputy Speaker, it is against this background that I seek a Statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Labour on the following:

Departmental Committee on Labour. Hon. Alice Ng’ang’a, how long will it take to respond to this Request for a Statement?

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. Five minutes.

Sorry?

Five minutes. Is it a Request for a Statement?

No. Hon. Masito has requested for a Statement from...

After two weeks!

Yes. Two weeks from now.

Thank you.

It is actually the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Labour, Hon. Chonga, and not the Departmental Committee on Social Protection. Is he here? Anyway, Hon. Alice has given an undertaking on his behalf. Yes, Hon. Omboko. Are you giving an undertaking on behalf of your Committee?

[(Hon. Omboko Milemba spoke off the record)]

Yes. Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. On behalf of the Chairperson of the Committee, we are seriously concerned with the Request for a Statement. We shall give an answer in the next two weeks.

Lastly, we have a request for a Statement by the Member for Nandi Hills, Hon. Bernard Kitur. I thought I saw him but he seems to have stepped out. Hon. Members, as we wait for him, allow me to go back to Petitions and read the Petition because it is now ready.

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I rise under Standing Order 44 (2) (c) . On 4th June 2025, I requested for a Statement from the Departmental Committee on Administration and National Security regarding the scope of immigration at Wajir International Airport. To date, I have not received a response, and I would like to ask that the Committee provides one.

Hon. Raso, the Member is referring to a Request for a Statement that has not been responded to. When do you plan to bring the response since it is overdue?

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. We will have a tête- à-tête with the Member, and we will respond in one week.

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Hon. Members, I would like to re-order the Order Paper. We will first address Orders Nos. 8 and 9. After that, we will return to Petitions and proceed with the Requests for Statements.

Mover.

Hon. Deputy Speaker, I saw, at least, three Members led by Hon. Abdul, walking out when you were on your feet. When the Speaker is on their feet, Members should watch their movement. Hon. Deputy Speaker, I beg to move that the Virtual Asset Service Providers Bill (National Assembly Bill No. 15 of 2025) be now read a Third Time. I also request Hon. Naomi Waqo to second.

I second.

[(Question proposed)]

Put the question!

[(Question put and agreed to)]

[(The Bill was accordingly read a Third Time and passed)]

A certified version of this Report THAT, this House do agree with the Report of the Committee of the Whole House on its consideration of the Kenya Roads (Amendment) (No. 3) Bill, National Assembly Bill No. 34 of 2025.

Mover! Hon. Kaluma is not present.

Hon. Deputy Speaker, he requested me to do this for him. I beg to move that the Kenya Roads (Amendment) (No. 3) Bill, National Assembly Bill No. 34 of 2025, be now read a Third Time. I also request Hon. (Dr) Nyikal to second.

I second.

[(Question proposed)]

Put the question!

[(Question put and agreed to)]

[(The Bill was accordingly read a Third Time and passed)]

Yes, Leader of the Majority Party.

Hon. Deputy Speaker, I beg your indulgence regarding Order No.10 on Committee of the whole House, on the Privatization Bill (National Assembly Bill No. 36 of 2025) . I kindly request that we step this down for today because several Members have approached me about their need to file amendments. We should allow them until the close of business today to submit any further amendments concerning this …

Leader of the Majority Party, allow the Clerk to read out the Order and then you can conclude on that point.

Yes, Leader of the Majority Party.

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Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I apologise for jumping the gun. As I indicated earlier, several Members have approached me and your office, expressing their wish to file further amendments on the Privatization Bill. Therefore, I invite all Members who wish to file amendments to do so by the close of business today for approval. We will revisit this business at a later time. I thank you.

Please, indicate the time and date.

By the close of business today, 7th October 2025, up to midnight. After that, as they say, may you forever remain quiet or until we have another Bill touching on the same issue.

Thank you, Hon. Members. I hope that is clear. Let us go back to Petitions first before Statements because we have guests from the Kenya Network of Cancer Organisation. They have been here from the beginning to listen to their Petition. Allow me to read their Petition while they are still present, then we can return to our other business. It is only considerate to do so.

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. Pursuant to the provisions…

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I sincerely apologise, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I stepped out. I did not know my turn was coming that fast. Sincere apologies for that. Pursuant to provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request for a statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Transport and Infrastructure regarding the expansion of the Eldoret-Shamakhokho Road. The Eldoret-Shamakhokho Road is a majo…

Chairperson for the Departmental Committee on Transport and Infrastructure, are you here? I can see you, Hon. GK. When will you respond to the issue of the Eldoret-Shamakhokho Road?

We will respond in two weeks’ time.

Okay, thank you. We still have two other Statements which are not on the Order Paper but had been approved – a Statement by Hon. Alice Ng’ang’a on National Youth Opportunities Towards Advancement (NYOTA) Project, and another a Statement by the Hon. Ruweida of Lamu. Proceed, Hon. Ng’ang’a.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 43 (1) , I rise to make a General Statement on a perceived imbalance in the treatment of Lamu East Constituency, which for far too long has been left out of the national picture. Lamu East remains relegated to the margins, denied visibility, opportunities and even basic presence of State Departments, while the neighbouring Lamu W…

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Asante Mhe. Spika wa Muda. Sababu wanayotoa wakienda Lamu Magharibi ni ghali kusafiri. Lakini bado kuna watu wanaoishi huko. Kamati nyingi zikizulu wanasema ni vigumu kwenda kule kwa vile wanaogopa bahari. Ninaomba Jumba hili la Bunge lichukue hilo jukumu. Wakija for public participation au kwa chochote kinachofanyika Lamu wapewe ndege aina ya helikopta iwasafirishe kule. Usafiri usikue sababu ya…

A certified version of this Report Mhe. Spika wa Muda, wewe ni mwalimu. Unajua madhara ya kutokua na cheti cha kuzaliwa. Wanafunzi hawajumuishi kwa National Education Management Information System (NEMIS).

Tafadhali, kuwa mfupi kwa sababu ni wewe mwenyewe uliyeandika ombi la Kauli. Tafadhali malizia.

Mhe. Spika wa Muda, ninataka wewe na watu wajue kuwa kama mwanafunzi hajaandikishwa kwa NEMIS hatapata pesa ya capitation na vitabu. Akikosa hivyo vyote na anafanya mtihani mmoja na wanafunzi wote Kenya na majibu yatakuwa D- (Minus) ama E. Hayo matokeo yanachangia upotofu wa usalama. Asante.

Hon. Member, you had the opportunity to present all that in a request for Statement, and the House would still have appreciated the entire speech. Thank you. Let us move to the next Order, which is the response to Statements. The first one we begin with is a response to Hon. Mark Mwenje, Member for Embakasi West, followed by Hon. Ali Wario, Member for Garsen, and Hon. Rahim Dawood, Member for Nor…

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I want to respond to the Member for Garsen, Hon. Ali Wario; the Member for Embakasi West, Hon. Mark Mwenje; and the Member for North Imenti, Hon. Dawood Rahim, respectively. Pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , they requested a Statement from the Cabinet Secretary for Defence concerning the upcoming Kenya Defence Forces recruitment. The Membe…

A certified version of this Report issued manually. People have been paying money to crooks out there who provide them letters that look very much like those that are issued by the KDF, only to get to the training centre and get turned away, giving our military a bad name. Those letters are manufactured by crooks who take money from innocent Kenyans seeking recruitment, but they are turned away d…

A certified version of this Report I therefore request Members that, where possible, we handle this matter outside Plenary, to ensure that all the questions you have raised are addressed as quickly as possible. Most of the cases now emerging are similar in nature. It is either: An administrative unit that has been left out, centres that have been misspelt, or people feeling disadvantaged. I wish …

Very well. Is Hon. Mwenje in the House? If the three of you are present, then each Honourable Member should have just one turn. Beginning with Hon. Mwenje.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Let me begin by expressing my utmost disappointment with the response I have received. This matter has indeed gone to court, and all 19 Members of Parliament from Nairobi are the petitioners. This came as a result of our engagement and to pick up where Hon. Nelson Koech left off, we wrote a letter. I am glad he is here today. We had not been able to find him for …

A certified version of this Report The Cabinet Secretary stated that the Act allows for recruitment at the county level. Then why not change the advert to make it fair for all of us and recruit at the county level, only 47 centres, and see if that will be accepted? Why would you say the Act dictates this and implement it only in Nairobi, but apply something different elsewhere? This is why we are…

Order, Hon. Mwenje. If you need to discuss anyone, you must bring a substantive Motion. Is Hon. Ali Wario also interested in this matter? Be brief, because there are three of you.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I thank the Chairman for the response, but it is not satisfactory. Garsen Constituency is 16,000 square kilometres. Initially, before this administration took office, we had only one sub-county, called the Tana Delta. The Cabinet Secretary, Hon. Tuya, was once in this House and served on the Speaker’s Panel. She led many sessions in this Parliament. Before this s…

You have made your point—

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Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. The Chairperson of the Committee is my good friend. I have served with him. However, this Statement is not good enough. He has just mentioned that he is always available. I have tried to get in touch with him over the last two weeks, but I have been unable to reach him. I do not know where he was and would not want to guess. As Hon. Mwenje said, I wrote a letter…

Precisely, Hon. Temporary Speaker. First, allow me to apologise to the Members who tried and could not find me for the last two weeks. I was out of the country in the United States of America (USA) for the United Nations General Assembly (UNGA) . I came back last weekend. I have also been in the constituency to catch up on what I was unable to do during that period. My apologies for that. Hon. Mw…

A certified version of this Report Beyond that, Hon. Mwenje, we all come from a constituency. My children also come from Belgut Constituency. We all come from a specific constituency even before we end up in Nairobi. Some feel that those who would have been recruited in Nairobi should be recruited in their original home. Nonetheless, I share your frustration and that of your colleagues. I promise…

176 kilometres.

Yes,176 kilometres. Your consistency is vast. It is an issue that I promise, in fact, I request that when I finish this statement, the three Members sit with me outside. I will make calls and see what can be addressed.

Very good, so please make it brief and I will allow it.

Is that fair enough? Hon. Dawood, I think the best approach is to step out, let me understand the issue, make a call, and see if there are any changes we can make at this point, rather than going back and forth with questions. Hon. Temporary Speaker, I submit.

Very well, Hon. Members, I will not open it up as I had earlier explained.

Let us move to the next response to a statement. This one is a reply to Hon. Samuel Gachombe. It is about incomplete works on Subukia Road No. D366 by the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Transport and Infrastructure. Is Hon. Gachombe in the House? In his absence, I will advise that the report be submitted. Where is the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Transport and Infrast…

[(The Statement was laid on the Table)]