National Assembly · Afternoon Sitting

Hon. Members, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 41 (4) , I report to the House that I have received three Messages from the Senate regarding the passage of two National Assembly Bills and one Senate Bill as follows—

Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table:

Chairperson of Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs. Hon. Udgoon, are you a Member of the Committee?

Yes.

Go ahead.

Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Paper on the Table: Report of the Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs on its consideration of the Penal Code (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bill No.53 of 2024) Thank you, Hon. Speaker.

Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Trade, Industry and Cooperatives.

Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table: Reports of the Departmental Committee on Trade, Industry and Cooperatives on its inquiry into—

Chairperson of the Constitutional Implementation Oversight Committee, Hon. Caroli.

Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Paper on the Table: Fourth Report of the Constitutional Implementation Oversight Committee on the status of implementation of the Constitution by—

Chairperson of the Public Petitions Committee.

Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table: Reports of the Public Petitions Committee on its consideration of—

Hon. (Dr) Christine Ombaka.

Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Paper on the Table:

Next Order.

Hon. Speaker, I beg to give notice of the following Motion: THAT, this House adopts the Report of the Departmental Committee on Trade, Industry and Cooperatives on its inquiry into the alleged discrimination of local investors in the transport and logistics sector by multinational companies in the country, laid on the Table of the House on Wednesday, 19th November 2025.

Hon. Speaker, I beg to give notice of the following Motion: THAT, this House adopts the Report of the Departmental Committee on Trade, Industry and Cooperatives on its inquiry into the proposed sale of shares of the East African Portland Cement PLC, laid on the Table of the House on Wednesday, 19th November 2025.

Chairperson of Constitutional Implementation and Oversight Committee, Hon. Caroli.

Hon. Speaker, I beg to give notice of the following Motion:

A certified version of this Report THAT, this House adopts the Fourth Report of the Constitutional Implementation and Oversight Committee, laid on the Table of the House on Wednesday, 19th November 2025, on the status of implementation of the Constitution by—

Hon. Karemba of the Public Petitions Committee.

Hon. Speaker, I beg to give notice of the following Motion: THAT, this House adopts the Report of the Public Petitions Committee on its consideration of Public Petition No.76 of 2023 regarding discrimination on career progression guidelines for special needs education teachers in Kenya, laid on the Table of the House on Wednesday, 19th November 2025.

Secondly, Hon. Speaker, I beg to give notice of the following motion: THAT, this House adopts the Report of the Public Petitions Committee on its consideration of Public Petition No.15 of 2024 regarding gazettement of Mwala and Kalama sub-counties of Machakos County as hardship areas, laid on the Table of the House on Wednesday, 19th November 2025. Thank you, Hon. Speaker.

I rise to ask the Prime Cabinet Secretary the following Question: Could the Prime Cabinet Secretary:

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Thank you. The Prime Cabinet Secretary and Cabinet Secretary for Foreign and Diaspora Affairs : Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I beg to respond as follows. First, Kenyans migrating abroad must have travel insurance. I wish to state that no single insurance company has a monopoly covering Kenyans seeking jobs in the Gulf or any other country. Individuals and Kenyan private recruitment agencies are at li…

[(Hon. Musalia Mudavadi)]

A certified version of this Report number of recruitment agencies that have had their licenses revoked in the last five years. A multi-agency committee comprising the departments of Labour, Interior, Foreign Affairs, the Attorney-General, the National Police, National Intelligence Service (NIS) and the Director of Criminal Investigations (DCI) was set up. This committee vets all applications by re…

Hon. Naisula.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker and thank you, Prime Cabinet Secretary, for your response. I have two follow-up questions. Is it a coincidence that the Middle East is where we get most of the complaints about Kenyans being mistreated and not in any other parts of the world? I am sure some Kenyans go to work in other parts of the world. It is important that we get the full terms of the current Bilateral La…

A certified version of this Report on some of these matters so that we can put them to rest. I am sure this is not the first time this question has been asked in this House.

First, we will have Hon. Shakeel, Member for Kisumu East.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I am the Chairman of the African Parliamentarians Network against Corruption (APNAC) . In the next meeting, we will be discussing the challenges migrant workers face. I would like the Prime Cabinet Secretary, Hon. Mudavadi, to confirm whether the United Arab Emirates (UAE) countries have banned the system that they used to sell workers who were on contracts; they would lit…

Hon. Tandaza.

Asante, Mhe. Spika. Swali langu ni, kati ya wale watu 594 umeorodhesha, nina uhakika kuna Zawadi Jobs Abroad Limited na ThinkNorth Agencies Limited. Hao walikuja Kwale, Matuga, na wakasajili vijana 61 miezi minne iliyopita. Kisha, Wizara, kupitia Special Funds za Uwezo Fund, wakapeana pesa, wakachukuwa pesa na pasipoti zao. Miezi mine imeisha na mpaka sasa hawajapata habari zozote. Vijana hawa 61…

Hon. Oundo.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I want to request the Prime Cabinet Secretary to clarify on two damaging articles that appeared in the New York Times in the course of this week: one reads, “New York Times reveals Kenyan official profiting from workers abuse in Saudi Arabia”; they named insurance companies, and the details are extensive. Allow me not to quote because I am not the author of the article. S…

Waziri. The Prime Cabinet Secretary and Cabinet Secretary for Foreign and Diaspora Affairs : Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Let me start with the issues raised by Hon. Oundo. First of all, I want to state that as a Government, we take great exception to the articles that were purveyed by the New York Times, and of course, just reproduced by one of the local dailies. We want to clearly state that Kenya …

[(Hon. Musalia Mudavadi)]

A certified version of this Report It is unfortunate that that kind of sensationalism was brought out. We should all treat that with the condemnation it deserves. Clearly, there are some defamatory issues that are raised in these articles. That will be a matter for a different aspect. Now, let me address the specific issues that the articles raised. First of all, the data we have is very clear. …

You can forward it to my office. It will be circulated to the Members. The Prime Cabinet Secretary and Cabinet Secretary for Foreign and Diaspora Affairs : Thank you.

[(Hon. Musalia Mudavadi)]

We will end it here, Hon. Members, so that we go to the next business. Prime Cabinet Secretary, our engagement with you can end here. You are released to go back to your office to carry on with other duties. Please convey to your Cabinet colleagues to take this House seriously. We will sanction those who do not honour our invitations. The Prime Cabinet Secretary and Cabinet Secretary for Foreign …

[(Hon. Musalia Mudavadi)]

Thank you. Next Order.

A certified version of this Report Ratification Act (Cap.4D), approves the Ratification of the Comprehensive Economic Partnership Agreement between the Republic of Kenya and the United Arab Emirates subject to reservations of Article 13:33 (Protection of undisclosed test or other data for pharmaceutical products).

Order. Members on their feet, take your seats. Hon. Oundo, do not freeze. Take your seat. Hon. Members, our records show that an amendment was moved by Hon. (Dr) Nyikal. We will put a Question on it. If we carry it, then I will have the Motion as amended. That is now the Motion before the House. The debate continues. Hon. (Dr) Nyikal requested that I give him the first opportunity to speak to th…

[(Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo stood in the gangway)]

[(Question, that the words to be added be added, put and agreed to)]

[(Resumption of debate on Motion as amended)]

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Let me start by thanking Hon. Members for passing the amendment that we introduced on Article 2:13 of the Agreement. I do not know much about trade but I have faith, through the Report tabled by the Departmental Committee on Trade, Industry and Cooperatives. They have done due diligence on all the Articles, and therefore protected the interests of Kenya. I only want to sp…

[[The Speaker (Hon. Moses Wetang’ula) left the Chair] [The Deputy Speaker (Hon. Gladys Boss) took the Chair]]

A certified version of this Report over the world that the cost of healthcare and drugs go up in countries that do that. Many countries disagree. I appreciate the work that was done by the Committee pulling out examples like South Africa which declined to sign an agreement that brought that aspect. Nigeria is negotiating currently, but it is resistant to introduce data exclusivity. India does not…

Thank you. Member for Matungulu, Hon. Stephen Mule, has pressed the intervention button. He is not in the House. Hon. Shabbir.

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I stand to support the Motion with the amendment that we have just passed. The Motion that was presented to the Departmental Committee on Trade, Industry and Cooperatives to ratify an agreement with the UAE had a little bit of mischief on drugs. I thank the House for agreeing to amend that particular element. If it was not done, and if we were not cautious enough, t…

Member for Ruaraka, do you want to contribute?

No, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I am waiting to contribute to the next matter in the Order Paper.

Member for Tetu.

Hon. Deputy Speaker, I also do not wish to contribute to this matter. I am waiting to contribute to the next matter.

Hon. Owen Baya.

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Hon. Deputy Speaker, this Motion was comprehensively debated. What was the issue was the amendment. There has been a general agreement on it. Therefore, it is important that we move under Standing Order 95 and conclude debate on this matter and move to the next. I thank you.

Is that the mood of the House?

Yeah, it is the mood of the House.

[(Question, that the Mover be called upon to reply, put and agreed to)]

Hon. Kitany, are you the Mover?

Yes, Hon. Deputy Speaker, I am the one who moved the Motion. If it is the mood of the House, I can reply. Hon. Deputy Speaker, I beg to reply.

Next Order.

A certified version of this Report continue to moil and toil and to mentor the younger generation so that they can be better lawyers and judges. As you know, Hon. Deputy Speaker, you were part of those who came up with the Judicial Training Institute (JTI). We want to have some of these older judges being part-time lecturers in JTI so that they can help the new judges to make good rulings that wi…

Next order.

Is there anyone who would like to debate? Since there is no interest, I call upon the Mover to reply.

Thank you very much, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I beg to reply. Let me begin by…

[(Hon. TJ Kajwang’ spoke off the record)]

A certified version of this Report Sorry, I got destructed by Hon. TJ Kajwang’. Let me begin by reminding the House why we have Chapter 10 commissions and independent offices, which are commonly called the fourth arm of the state. We have 10 independent constitutional commissions and two independent offices, namely the Auditor-General and the Controller of Budget. Chapter 10 is the architecture o…

A certified version of this Report Article 249(3) by limiting the resources that we can dedicate to these independent commissions. It is our recommendation that the independent commissions be removed from the sector working groups. By their very nature, they are not supposed to be in sector working groups. They are supposed to be independent. They are accountability institutions that cannot be mi…

Thank you. I think we shall put the question in the next sitting. Let us proceed to the next Motion. We will defer it if the Mover is not here. Deputy Leader of the Majority Party, do you want to move it on their behalf?

[(Putting of the question deferred)]

Hon. Deputy Speaker, I was asked to move this

A certified version of this Report (NDCs), and the National Climate Change Action Plans (NCCAPs). All guide the nation's climate action agenda. The overarching goal of this policy is to provide a coherent suite of fiscal actions that will accelerate Kenya's transition to a low emissions economy, enhance climate resilience, and promote environmental sustainability while supporting inclusive green …

Hon. Caroli, are you aware of that?

Yes, he is. He is a learned man; he understands that. Second, regarding water and blue economy, we have incentives for water harvesting, sustainable fisheries, wetland restoration, and green port infrastructure. Third, regarding health and sanitation, we have support for disease surveillance systems, energy-efficient medical equipment, and organic pesticides. The Deputy Speaker has, for many years…

A certified version of this Report credit enhancement. The KGIB will bridge financing gaps and catalyse large-scale investment in renewable energy, clean transport, climate-smart agriculture, and sustainable infrastructure. It will be a key driver in Kenya's transition to a green economy. Hon. Deputy Speaker, in line with Article 118(1)(b) of the 2010 Constitution, the Committee invited public pa…

Hon. Deputy Speaker, I was not intending to second, but I have been ambushed. I have some recommendations that I may have to make. I rise to second the Motion on the National Green Fiscal Incentives Policy Framework. Mainstreaming fiscal incentives in our planning processes and budgetary processes, to protect the climate and implement climate action, is the right way to go. Kenya is at the forefr…

A certified version of this Report this particular area, not just as the host of the United Nations Environment Programme (UNEP), but also as a country that is endowed with a lot of resources. Hon. Deputy Speaker, this is a good Policy Framework that highlights the government priorities and proposals in offering green fiscal incentives and also ensuring that government processes comply with the n…

Hon. Fatuma.

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker, for the opportunity. I rise to support this good initiative from the Government. I will focus on one area that touches on the renewable energy—the promotion of geothermal, solar,

A certified version of this Report wind and off-grid power while phasing out our fossil fuel thermal plants. Renewable energy is the way to go because, currently, the world is suffering. We know that we need clean environment. Renewable energy is mostly found in sunlight, wind, water and heat from the earth. Kenya being a very hot country in our continent, would sustain renewable energy. On a shor…

Thank you. Hon. Jane Kagiri.

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker, for giving me the opportunity to support this Motion. I support the policy because of the many thematic areas that have been picked. Disaster risk management, water and blue economy, health and sanitation, agriculture and food security, and forestry, wildlife and tourism are the backbone of our economy. We should focus on incentives that would make sure these variou…

Mover, you can reply.

Thank you very much, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I thank every Member who has contributed to the debate on this Motion. This policy framework will help to anchor all laws related to the environment. It will also bring more money to the country through the use of the green energy. Hon. Deputy Speaker, with those remarks I reply. Thank you.

Thank you. Next Order.

Chairperson of the Special Funds Accounts Committee.

Thank you once more, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I request you to defer the debate to a later date. Thank you.

Thank you. The Motion is deferred to the next Sitting. Next Order.

A certified version of this Report THAT, this House adopts the Joint Report of the Departmental Committee on Labour and the Select Committee on Diaspora Affairs and Migrant Workers on the consideration of Sessional Paper No. 5 of 2023 on the National Policy on Labour Migration, laid on the Table of the House on Thursday, 9th October 2025, and approves Sessional Paper No. 5 of 2023 on the National…

Chairperson, Departmental Committee on Labour. He is not here. Next order.

Chairperson, Special Funds Account Committee.

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I kindly request that you defer it to a later date. Thank you. Next Order.

Chairperson.

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I kindly request that you defer it to a later date. Thank you. Next order.

A certified version of this Report THAT, this House adopts the Seventh Report of the Special Funds Accounts Committee on its consideration of the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements for the Land Settlements Fund for the Financial Years 2020/2021 & 2021/2022 and the Railway Development Fund (Holding Account) for the Financial Years 2017/2018, 2018/2019, 2019/2020, 2020/2021 &…

Chairperson.

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I kindly request that you defer it to a later date. Thank you. Next order which is the last one.

Chairperson, Public Petitions Committee. He is not present. Is there any other Member from that Committee?