Senate · Afternoon Sitting

Clerk, do we have quorum? Serjeant-at-Arms, kindly ring the Quorum Bell for 10 minutes.

[(The Quorum Bell was rung)]

Order, Hon. Senators. Kindly those who are standing to take their seats. Sen. Tabitha, take your seat. We do have quorum now. Clerk, you may proceed to call the first Order.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, for giving me this opportunity to welcome the team from Makueni. This team was here from yesterday and has interacted extensively with our members of staff, the National Assembly Speaker and his House Business Committee (HBC) . This morning, they have been in discussion with the Leadership of the Senate, hosted by the Senator for Garissa. They have learnt a lot and we…

Next Order, Clerk.

The Senate Majority Leader, Commissioner Kinyua.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. On behalf of the Senate Majority Leader, I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table of the Senate today, 20th March,

Sen. Mundigi, you are totally out of order. Can you go to the Bar and bow to the Chair to move to the other line? Proceed Commissioner.

[(Sen. Munyi Mundigi walked to the Bar and bowed to the Chair)]

Thank you, Mr. Speaker Sir.

Report of the Auditor-General on Financial Statements of Homa Bay County Executive Car Loan and Mortgage (Members) Scheme Fund for the year ended 30th June,

The Chairperson Standing Committee on Land, Environment and Natural Resources or any Member of the Committee can proceed to lay the Paper.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I beg to lay the following Paper on the Table of the Senate, this day of 20th March, 2024- Report of the Standing Committee on Finance and Budget on the County Governments (Additional Allocations) cash disbursement Schedule for Financial Year 2023/2024.

[(Sen. Tabitha Mutinda laid the document on the Table)]

Next Order. Proceed, Chairperson Standing Committee on Finance and Budget.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I beg to give notice of the following Motion- THAT the Senate adopts the report of the Standing Committee on Finance and Budget on the County Governments (Additional Allocations) Cash

Disbursement Schedule for the Financial Year 2023/2024, laid on the Table of the Senate on Wednesday, 20th March, 2024. That pursuant to Section 17(7) of the Public Finance Management Act and Standing Order No.189(3), the Senate approves the County Governments (Additional Allocations) Cash Disbursement Schedule for the FY 2023/2024.

The Chairperson Select Committee on Delegated Legislation. Sen. Faki, you may proceed.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I beg to give notice of the following Motion- THAT, AWARE THAT the Sacco Societies Order, 2023 Legal Notice No. 178 of 2023 was tabled in the Senate on 15th November, 2023 and referred to the Select Committee on Delegated Legislation for consideration; RECOGNIZING THAT this Order relates to imposition of a levy on non-deposit taking SACCO societies; COGNIZANT THAT …

[(Non-Deposit Taking Levy)]

[(Cap 2A, Laws of Kenya)]

[(Non-Deposit Taking Levy Order)]

[(Legal Notice No. 178 of 2023)]

Clerk, next Order.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I stand pursuant to Standing Order No.52 (1) to make a Statement on a matter of general topic of concern, namely, the escalating incidents of road accidents in the country which has led to an alarming number of deaths and injuries among our citizens. Mr. Speaker, Sir, the statistics are sobering. The 2023 economic survey reports rising road accident fatalities to 4,69…

I thank you.

We are now on Statements pursuant to Standing Order No.53 (1) .

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I rise pursuant to Standing Order No.53 (1) to seek a Statement from Standing Committee on Roads, Transportation and Housing regarding the status of upgrading Nanyuki-Mutara-Rumuruti and Mutara-Gwaku roads in Laikipia County. In the Statement, the Committee should-

Next is Sen. Mwaruma.

Next is Sen. (Prof.) Tom Ojienda.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I rise pursuant to Standing Order No.53 (1) to seek a Statement from the Standing Committee on Labour and Social Welfare regarding the various fees introduced by the Human Resource Management Professional Examinations Board (HRMPEB) . In the Statement, the Committee should-

Sen. Wafula has two Statements.

The two Statements by Sen. Alexander Mundigi are deferred to tomorrow pursuant to his request.

Sen. Kathuri, your Statement has been reinstated. You may proceed to request the Statement.

Hon. Senators, allow me to make this Communication before we proceed with the interventions. In the public gallery, we have 148 form four students and five teachers from Kiurani Boys High School in Tharaka Nithi County, who are undertaking a one-day education visit in the Senate. In our usual tradition of receiving and welcoming visitors to Parliament, I extend a warm welcome to them. On behalf …

Sen. Osotsi, your three minutes have since been consumed by your contribution. So, I will invite the hon. Members who have requested on the dashboard to speak to this Bill. Sen. Maanzo, kindly proceed.

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I want to thank Sen. M. Kajwang’ for bringing this Bill back. The County Boundaries Bill, 2023 was previously County Boundaries Bill, 2022 and it was caught up with Parliamentary time. It had been moved by the now Governor of Makueni, who was then Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, the County Boundaries Bill has tried to put together and s…

complained without justification that, in fact, they wanted to pay levies to Taita Taveta County, yet they are in Makueni County. When it went to Mombasa courts, the court stated that it had no jurisdiction to deal with the matter and referred the matter to the National Land Commission (NLC). The NLC was unable to deal with the matter for lack of jurisdiction and was sent back to the courts. The …

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I want to thank Sen. M. Kajwang’ for bringing this Bill back. The County Boundaries Bill, 2023 was previously County Boundaries Bill, 2022 and it was caught up with Parliamentary time. It had been moved by the now Governor of Makueni, who was then Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, the County Boundaries Bill has tried to put together and s…

Thank you, Sen. Maanzo. Sen. Oketch Gicheru, you may have the Floor.

between counties which have been co-existing peacefully. That sort of an idea is criminal and that person should be dealt with in an appropriate manner that a criminal is dealt with, so that people co-exist peacefully. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, while still on this particular matter, on the other side of Taita-Taveta, the last polling station is somewhere in the park. It is even kilometres away …

the issue of altercations that come with altering those boundaries because of different issues. I find this Bill amazingly placed in the context of helping our counties to define their borders. Last year, one of the biggest confrontations that we had in this House was on the issue of Sondu versus Kericho. If you remember, my brother, Sen. (Dr.) Boni Khalwale of Kakamega together with yours truly,…

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, Sen. Cherarkey is looking at me with unusual eyes. I do not know what is going on but it is okay. I feel protected especially because it is in the evening. Sen. Cherarkey is not as dangerous in the evening as he is at the start of the session. Indeed, this is a wonderful Bill. If you read Chapter Six of the Constitution, it starts by defining the territory of our count…

When this Bill is back in the Order Papers, Sen. Oketch, you will have eight more minutes to contribute to it.

child born in 1992 is probably 31 years old. Within 32 years, many things have happened in terms of delineation of a physical feature that defined boundaries at that time. If for instance, a river that used to be seasonal, was used as a feature at that time in the district boundaries marking and even in redistricting, by now the river no longer exists. If you used that river to say district X whic…

When this Bill is back in the Order Papers, Sen. Oketch, you will have eight more minutes to contribute to it.