National Assembly · Morning Sitting

Deputy Leader of the Majority Party, Hon. Baya.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table: Reports of the Auditor-General and Financial Statements for the years ended 30th June 2021, 30th June 2022, and 30th June 2023 and the certificates therein in respect of:

Thank you, Hon. Owen.

Hon. Members, before we go to the Questions and Statements, allow me to reorganise the Order Paper so that we go to Order No.8 and then revert to Order No.7. Order No.8.

Mover of the Bill, kindly move the Third Reading in the amended form.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I beg to move that the Community Health Workers Bill (National Assembly Bill No. 53 of 2022) be now read a Third Time. I also request our Chairman, Hon. (Dr) Pukose, to second.

Hon. Pukose.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I second.

Hon. Members, I have confirmed that we have the requisite quorum for the purpose of this decision.

[(Question proposed)]

[(Question put and agreed to)]

[(The Bill was accordingly read a Third Time and passed)]

We revert to Order No.7.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I have two Responses to Statements. I will start with the request by the Member for Mwala Constituency.

Begin as in the Order Paper. Start with the one by Hon. Phelix Odiwuor.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I will start with the one that was requested by the Member for Lang’ata Constituency, Hon. Phelix Odiwuor, alias Jalas Jalang’o. He sought a Statement regarding the current management and public access to Uhuru Gardens. The Member for Lang’ata Constituency, Hon Phelix Odiwuor sought for a Statement, pursuant to Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , regarding the current m…

Hon. Jalas, are you satisfied?

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. We are satisfied with these answers and we accept.

Thank you. Hon. Kwenya, next response to the Member for Mwala Constituency.

I taught Hon. CNN is a ranking Member. The Chairperson can assist the Member for Mwala by facilitating a meeting with the Principal Secretary. That way, the questions he has asked will be answered. Otherwise, Hon. Thuku cannot answer some of those questions. I wish he asked a question rather than a statement. The Chairperson reads a statement and that is the end of the story. If he can facilitate …

That is the route we will take. Member for Mwala I agree with Hon. Makali that we will not get a solution from this statement. I propose that the Chairperson of the Committee calls the Cabinet Secretary or Principal Secretary for Foreign and Diaspora Affairs for the meeting where you will also be present. These questions are better answered by the ministry. Hon. Kwenya are you guided?

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker for the guidance. Indeed, this family needs closure of this matter. We will endeavour to do whatever is within our purview to bring this matter to rest. I will communicate the same to the Chairperson of our Committee. Thank you.

That is well guided. The next Statement is from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Energy. Hon. Musau you are the one responding to Hon. Makali Mulu.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Things change so fast. I am in the frying pan. Hon. Makali Mulu requested for a Statement regarding

the status of compensation to Master Simon Mwema for injuries sustained following electrocution from Kenya Power lines. The response we got from the ministry did not satisfy us. Hon. Temporary Speaker, this is the response. Master Simon Muema suffered electrical burns at Kyethani Village in Mwingi on 17th December 2017 while playing with part of a vandalised stay wire that was attached to a pole …

Member for Kitui Central.

Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I want to thank the Chairperson of the Committee for admitting that this Statement is totally inadequate. When I looked at this Statement, I asked myself whether KPLC knows what they should be doing. On a serious note, who blames a child who sustained injuries from a live low-hanging wire at a primary school gate? This Statement should not even have bee…

Hon. Vincent, precedence has been set by your issue. When you follow up on that issue, invite Hon. Makali to be present to execute and prosecute the pending issues. As you have said, it is not sufficient. You can give your commitment from here on how long you will need and the action you will take.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, this is not a small matter. It might even form an enquiry. What we want to know is, if a claim like this one cannot be paid, then what other claims have not been paid. How much money has been paid? I request that we be given enough time so that we institute a full enquiry on this matter because it affects many other Kenyans. Hon. Temporary Speaker, if you give us one month…

Hon. Member for Mwala, do not pre-empt your investigations.

I just wanted to give the Member confidence. Can we have one month?

Do not pre-empt. Hon. Makali.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. The family of the affected boy has been waiting for seven years. It will not cost us anything to wait for one month as long as this matter is concluded. A month is okay with us.

Hon. Member for Mwala, you have one month. Let us have the response to a Statement request by the Member for Loima. Is he in the House? Is Hon. Protus in the House? If the Member is not in the House, the Statement will be tabled, not read, so that we make progress. Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Energy, table the Statement to Hon. Protus’ request. Is the Member for Lungalunga, Hon. Ch…

[(Hon. Vincent Musau tabled the response to the Statement request)]

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I present a response to a Statement request by Hon. Joshua Kandie, the Member for Baringo Central Constituency, regarding regulation of labour migration through private recruitment agencies. The Statement is based on the questions that were asked. The first part of the question was on the roles of the Ministry of Labour and Social Protection in the registration and regulat…

Thank you, Hon. Chairman. Member for Baringo Central.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. The only problem I have with this Statement is that I was among the delegation that went for the signing of an agreement with the German Government in September. I met some recruiting agencies which have been banned dining with the high and mighty people in Germany. So, this Statement is in theory, but in practise, banned recruitment agencies do business. How wil…

Hon. Chairman.

Thank you, Hon. Chairman. While I consider the sentiments by Hon. Member very important, I will appreciate if there is any supplementary information from him. He has alleged that he was in Germany with some recruitment agencies that have either been banned or their licences revoked. As the Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Labour, I will appreciate if more information is relayed to our Com…

Hon. Chairman, Hon. Kandie has said that we are very good with the theories on paper, but we do not implement them. I hope this can be a continuous process. If Hon. Kandie has more information, he has a responsibility to supply it to the relevant committee to assist them in their work. Any Member can do that. Let it be settled at that point.

On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

Before we go to Hon. Wanami Wamboka, there is a point of order from Hon. Yusuf Hassan.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for giving me the opportunity. I rise to speak on a terrible disaster that took place in my neighbourhood. Today is a very dark day in Kamukunji. Last night, we had a devastating fire in Kitui Village, Pumwani Ward, Kamukunji Constituency. Seven people were killed and scores of people were seriously injured. As I speak, several people are missing, including chil…

Thank you, Member for Kamukunji. On my behalf and that of the House, I offer our condolences. I know the Member for Nairobi City County had also spoken to the Speaker about the matter. I will give you two minutes to offer your condolence and then close the matter.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. We are saddened that we keep having fire incidents in Nairobi and we keep losing lives. A few months ago, a mother lost three of her children. Today, a father has died with three children, a mother has died with one child and a man has been burnt beyond recognition. In fact, all the bodies are burnt beyond recognition. It is disheartening that we do not have acc…

Thank you. We will now go to Hon. Wanami Wamboka’s request for Statement. Hon. Wamboka, you had been called upon earlier. You should apologise first for coming late.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I am always very committed to the business of this House. I was with the delegation from South Sudan, the Chairman of the Public Accounts Committee and his team. I am very sorry to have delayed. Hon. Temporary Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I wish to request for a Statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Labour reg…

There is no further proceeding. You have requested for a Statement. The request is committed to the Departmental Committee on Labour immediately. Hon. Wamboka, you have made a request for a Statement on the status of implementation of the court order. I have committed it to the Departmental Committee on Labour. The Leader of the Majority Party, kindly note. I do not see the Chair or Vice-Chair of…

[(Hon. Wanami Wamboka spoke off the record)]

On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

Hon. Wamboka, what is out of order?

Hon. Temporary Speaker, about three months ago, I requested for a Statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Defence concerning recruitment in Bumula Constituency. That debate was so heated in this House because more Members and, therefore, more constituencies, were affected. The Chairman brought a response which was not adequate and not befitting of the standards of this Hous…

powerful that she can ignore what this House directs her to do? Is the Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Defence untouchable to the extent that he can do what he wishes and not subscribe to the tenets of this House? I beg that you give your guidance and directions to this effect.

You have made your point, and rightfully so. I have been briefed that the issue was canvassed and the response was to come in the first two weeks after resumption. I direct that the Leader of the Majority Party ensures the Chairperson brings the response to the issue raised by Hon. Wamboka in the next one week. Finally, to close on this Order is the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on He…