National Assembly · Afternoon Sitting

Hon. Members, as you are aware, the Annual National Prayer Breakfast is held each year, on every last Thursday of the month of May. In this regard, I wish to notify the House that the 2025 National Assembly Prayer Breakfast is scheduled to take place on Thursday, 29th May 2025 at the Safari Park Hotel, Nairobi. The Annual Prayer Breakfast is an inter-denominational prayer meeting organised by Mem…

Liza Chelule consulted loudly) Hon. Dorothy and the Member for Nakuru County, you are out of order. This communication is for you.

Hon. Members, as you are aware, at the rise of this sitting today, the House is scheduled to proceed on its long recess from Friday, 2nd May to Monday, 26th May 2025, in accordance with its Calendar for the Fourth Session. You may further recall that the countrywide public participation exercise for the Constitution of Kenya (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bill No.4 of 2025) is scheduled to be…

[(Hon. Ali Raso and several other Members walked into the Chamber)]

Hon. Members, I had already said I would allow the Majority Leader to deliver his Thursday Statement. Thereafter, we are expecting two Cabinet Secretaries, the Prime Cabinet Secretary and the Cabinet Secretary for Roads and Transport. Once we finish with the Majority Leader, if the Cabinet Secretaries are within, we can have and dispose of their matters. We have a lot of requests for statements. …

Commissioner Makau, take your seat. Hon. Members, I will now put the Question to the business under Order No.8. Hon. Members, this is for general direction. When we have ministers coming to answer Questions, we only deal with Questions that are listed on the Order Paper. I am addressing this to Hon. Basil. If you file a Question and it is not on the Order Paper, it is not fair, neither is it reas…

[(Question put and agreed to)]

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (a) , I rise to give the following Statement on behalf of the House Business Committee, which met on Tuesday, 29th April 2025 to prioritise business for consideration during the week. As Members will note, tomorrow shall be a public holiday. In this regard, the House is scheduled to proceed for a three-week long recess a…

committees ample time to expedite consideration of business pending before them as this will be a working recess. Upon resumption, the House shall continue with the consideration at Second Reading of the Political Parties (Amendment) (No.2) Bill (Senate Bill No.26 of 2024), should it not be concluded today. Additionally, debate will also be undertaken on the following Motions, should they not be …

Hon. Major Bashir.

Major Bashir.

[(A Member spoke off the record)]

A retired Major. Take your seat.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. He is a retired Major, which is why he is leaning, and not standing at attention.

Hon. Members, allow me to acknowledge in the Speaker's Gallery St Catherine Girls Secondary School from Bomet East, Bomet County. On my behalf and on behalf of the House, we welcome the students and those accompanying them to the House of Parliament.

[(Applause)]

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I would like to take this opportunity to welcome the students from St Catherine Girls from Bomet East. It happened that they were just coming from my doorstep, and I had not realised that they were from my Constituency. It is good that they have come to Benchmark here. Visiting here means they are going to work very hard and in the near future, most of them are going to jo…

Clerk-at-the-Table, call back Order No.6 for the Leader of the Minority Party to give notice of Motion.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I am happy the issue of RLMF is taking another direction.

Yes. Direction of negotiation, consultation, and engagement, contrary to how it was before in court.

Hon. Speaker, I beg to give notice of Motion on establishment of an ad hoc committee on a framework for the streamlining and consolidation of education funding in the country for purpose of provision of free and compulsory basic education through National Education Fund (NEF) : Aware that the Kenya Vision 2030 was rolled out with the aim of transforming Kenya into a newly industrialising, middle-…

of life to all its citizens by 2030; appreciating that education is a crucial compound of accelerating the realisation of Vision 2030, Articles 43(1) and 53(1b) of the Constitution entitles every child to the right to free and compulsory basic education; noting that the Government provides capitation per child towards free primary education and subsidised secondary and tertiary education, which is…

[(Loud consultation)]

Order! Order Hon. Members!

[(Loud consultation)]

On a point of order.

Yes, Hon. Bowen. What is your point of order?

Hon. Speaker, I would like to support the Motion by Hon. Junet.

Order, Hon. Bowen. Take your seat. You are a senior Member of this House. Under which Standing Order do you support a notice of Motion? This is a notice of Motion. You wait to debate and support it as loudly and boisterously as you wish. Let us go back to Order No.7. The Majority Whip has requested a few minutes to request for a Statement. All Members with requests for statements will do so after…

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I request for a Statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security regarding mining machinery belonging to Rio Kavirondo Limited, seized at Rongo Police Station in Migori County. Rio Kavirondo Limited is a Kenyan-registered mining company with recognised and valid m…

machinery belonging to the Rio Kavirondo Limited is a deprivation of their property rights and a threat to the company’s survival. It is against this background that I request a Statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security on the following:

Thank you. Hon. Members, we have the Prime Cabinet Secretary. Who is the Chairperson? Was it the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security? Yes, Tongoyo.

Hon. Speaker, we will give a response the first week after we return from recess.

The first week is crowded. Do the second week.

Yes. Nevertheless, we had discussed with the concerned Member that I reach the Inspector-General of police to see whether he can intervene, considering that the recess is a little bit long.

Yes, Gisairo.

Hon. Speaker, I seek your indulgence on an issue that is perturbing a number of Members. On 16th April 2025, while the Cabinet Secretary for the National Treasury was here, he promised to send Ksh7 billion on or before 29th April 2025. We are now going for a long recess. The Leader of the Majority Party wished us a very restful break and interaction with our constituents. I promise that will not …

[(Applause)]

You have made your point. We will give you communication in the course of the Sitting this afternoon.

Hon. Members, I have a short Communication and guidance on the consideration of the Budget Estimates for the 2025/2026 Financial Year before we invite the Prime Cabinet Secretary. Article 221 of the Constitution as read together with Section 39 of the Public Finance Management Act of 2012 requires the National Assembly to consider the Estimates of revenue and expenditure of the National Governmen…

Hon. Speaker, the real Finance Bill has now arrived in Parliament in line with your Communication.

Yes.

As you will remember a ‘Finance Bill’ has been circulating over the past two months. People have been discussing it in public forums claiming that there is over taxation. I want to urge Kenyans from the Floor of this House that the real Finance Bill is with us now. There should be no misinformation, disinformation, and misrepresentation to the public. The Finance Bill should be interpreted in acc…

your own things into it. The people I am talking to are looking at me in the eyes. I do not want to mention names because we know each other. Some of them are in this House. Please, let us tell the public exactly what is in the Finance Bill. If there is no more taxation let us not import things that do not exist in it. Thank you, Hon. Speaker.

On a point of order, Hon. Speaker.

Thank you, Hon. Members. We will now give an opportunity to Hon. Kamket and then we move on. What is it Hon. Kamket? Yes, Member for Baringo East. Member for Tiaty, that is in Baringo. Give him the microphone. It used to be called Baringo East.

Yes, that is true. That was before it was renamed mighty Tiaty.

What is your issue?

Hon. Speaker, I am very happy. I just wanted to comment on how times have really change. My friend, Hon. Junet is now a big defender of certain things.

Order, Kamket. Switch off that microphone. I can see the trajectory you are taking. I will not allow you.

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Hon. Speaker, I rise to ask the Prime Cabinet Secretary and Cabinet Secretary for Foreign and Diaspora Affairs the following question. Could the Cabinet Secretary:

No speech after the question. The Prime Cabinet Secretary and Cabinet Secretary for Foreign and Diaspora Affairs : Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I wish to respond as follows. First, the Government is apprised of the matter of children born to Kenyan mothers in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. The number of children born to Kenyan mothers is in our records. As of now, they are 388. The processing of exit …

[(Hon. Musalia Mudavadi)]

Hon. Cynthia.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I am a bit confused by the answer. I appreciate the efforts and the fact that the ministry is keeping proper records, if not all, at least it is appreciated that there is some. On the second question about mothers who have had their passports confiscated, the Prime Cabinet Secretary is speaking of an ideal situation whereas, I am addressing the real situation on the groun…

Hon. Adagala.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. There is a Kenyan from Shamakhokho, Vihiga County by the name Elizabeth Chausi, Passport No. AK11799241 who died in Abu Dhabi. I would like to know what steps the ministry is taking because this is a distressed family that cannot manage to take the remains of their relative back to Shamakhokho for burial. Could the Prime Cabinet Secretary tell us how the ministry is going …

Hon. Dido Raso.

Thank you very much, Hon. Speaker. I wish to ask the Prime Cabinet Secretary about Kenyans registering themselves at the Kenyan Embassy in Saudi Arabia. Apparently, of all the problems we see emanating from different regions, Saudi Arabia is the worst. How much registration takes place? Secondly, we signed a labour agreement with some of these countries. Why would they confiscate travel documents…

Let us take one more joyrider. The last one on this. Hon. Basil.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker and the Prime Cabinet Secretary. We have Kenyan single mothers whose exit visas for children are denied for bearing children outside marriage. What is the ministry doing to sort this particular issue?

What is your question?

I am asking about exit visas for children who are born outside marriage and are detained in Saudi Arabia. What is the ministry doing about this issue?

A child is a child whether the parents are married or not. Is that not the case? Hon. Ferdinand.

[(Laughter)]

Hon. Speaker…

I have already given Hon. Ferdinand.

Hon. Speaker, I think our country is having a lot of problems. Many of us have relatives or neighbours in the Middle East: Qatar, United Arab Emirates (UAE) and Saudi Arabia. I want to find out whether the Prime Cabinet Secretary has a programme to sensitise those going to these places before they leave. This is because most Members of Parliament may not be able to reach the majority of people tra…

Prime Cabinet Secretary, you can answer those. The Prime Cabinet Secretary and Cabinet Secretary for Foreign and Diaspora Affairs : Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I just want to revisit the issue of DNA. The DNA process is very personal. The details you get out of it must be protected to ensure they do not fall into the wrong hands. When we take the samples, we give the results to individuals in confid…

[(Hon. Musalia Mudavadi)]

Hon. Elisha Odhiambo, Member of Parliament for Gem

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. My question is reading 046/2025 instead of 036/2025, if we follow the sequence.

It is corrected. Question 046/2025

Could the Cabinet Secretary -

Pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 42, I wish to report to the House that I have received two Messages from His Excellency the President regarding referral of the following Bills to Parliament for reconsideration:

Yes. Hon. Speaker: Whom do I take or whom do I leave?

Hon. Beatrice Kemei.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for giving me this opportunity. I want to request for a Statement regarding the status of investigations into the murder of Mr Joshua Mutai, a village elder in Sigowet Ward, Kericho County. Hon. Temporary Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I wish to request for a Statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Admi…

On special request, Hon. Justice Kemei. Hon. Justice Kemei (Sigowet/Soin, UDA) : Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for giving me the opportunity to add my voice on the killing of this most dedicated and loyal servant of the people of Sigowet/Soin Constituency. Mr Joshua Mutai died in the hands of a person who is on the run. There is fear in the constituency, particularly in Sigowet Ward. Everybo…

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I wish to add my voice on the killing of Mr Mutai which is very unfortunate. It might look like it is a small thing that is happening in one part of the country, but it speaks to impunity. Only yesterday, Members of Parliament here were speaking about officers who are killed in the line of duty. You have just sent a contribution to my cousin, your constituent, wh…

Above that, the Government must also set up a fund that when you are killed in the line of duty, it should not be the responsibility of your family to bury you. Just like the case of Mr Mutai, my cousin is the only breadwinner in their family. We buried the father last week. We will bury him tomorrow. We now have to try and scrape through to get something. This is a person who used to work for th…

Hon. Dido Raso this is serious. Commit to the House when you shall respond to the House.

Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. This is a case of clear murder of an elder. I believe that something is already in progress. However, without waiting for the House to resume in May, once I receive the Statement from my colleague, we will escalate the matter to the Directorate of Criminal Investigations (DCI) to ensure that the culprit is arrested and brought before court in the shorte…

How short?

We will give a response to the House in the second week after we resume from recess, but we will not wait until then. We will escalate the matter with the authorities immediately.

Hon. Beatrice, two weeks after we come back from recess sounds reasonable. Give Hon. Beatrice Kemei the microphone.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I appreciate what the Member of that Committee has said. However, I wish that even before they issue the Statement, they could make arrangements to visit Kericho and cool the temperatures of the people down. They should be seen to be doing something as Members of Parliament. They can act. They should not wait until we resume. They can do something now.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. We are playing in the same pool with my very good friend from Kericho. Hon. Temporary Speaker, pursuant to Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I wish to request for a Statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security regarding the grievous incident involving the unfortunate killing of Madam Roselida Akinyi Wanga, a teac…

Notably, in May 2023, the husband of the deceased, Mr Paul Ali Wechuli, was also a victim of armed robbery at Harambee Market in Matungu Sub-county. This incident was reported at Harambee Police Station, but to date, there has been no substantive progress in the investigations or apprehension of suspects. These incidents have raised serious concerns regarding the state of security in Kakamega Coun…

Hon. Geoffrey Wandeto Mwangi, do you want to speak to this?

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I have a request for a Statement.

Do you have a separate request?

No. My earlier point of order was to request Hon. Beatrice Kemei not to debate her Statement, but that has since been overtaken by events.

The Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I will indulge my good colleague from Navakholo, so that we get more information from him. At the same time, they say justice delayed is justice denied. It has taken a while and for that reason, we will give a response to the House in the second week after recess. We will escalate it to the authorities as soon as possible.

Thank you. Hon. Emmanuel Wangwe.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. One immediate request I am seeking from the Committee is the deployment of officers from the Serious Crimes Unit and homicides, particularly from Nairobi, to go and support the team on the ground. Looking at the case, the husband was first abducted in May 2023, and the wife has now been murdered. This indicates a sequence of events affecting the family. It is not…

Was the husband also abducted and killed, or was he found?

The husband was abducted, but is alive. He is also a high school teacher in my sub-county.

The Chairman of the Committee says that he will indulge you. You might have more information that could help with this serious matter beyond what you are saying. You can either arrange with him now or at any other time

to give that information so that it can help the Committee that is overseeing security matters to go to the depth of the killing of this teacher. We will now proceed to the third request for a Statement by the Member for West Mugirango, Hon. Stephen Mogaka.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Pursuant to Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request for a Statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security regarding trespass and failure to enforce court orders on LR No. 8481/1 located in Kasarani Constituency within Nairobi County. Hon. Temporary Speaker, this land parcel is registered under the estate…

Chairperson, Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security.

Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. The Hon. Colleague who has presented this request for a Statement is a lawyer just like you are. The issue borders on a civil case. I do not want to put the cart before the horse, therefore, allow us to respond two weeks after the recess.

Hon. Stephen Mogaka, any rejoinder?

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I thank the Chairperson for acknowledging that I am a lawyer. I have cited court orders preserving the property that require our Executive, through the police, to enforce the court orders. Unless court orders are enforced, the alternative would be a recipe for lawlessness. That is why poor owners who have litigated and have orders in their favour fail to secure their proper…

Which officer was this order directed to for enforcement?

Okay. As we wait for the two weeks after recess, please supply the Chairperson of the Committee with the copy of that order so that when the matter is pursued with the relevant Ministry, that information goes to them. Because if there is a straight forward order to be enforced by a particular police station, division or the police at any level, it has to be complied to. So, two weeks after recess,…

Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

The next Statement is by Hon. Getrude Mbeyu, Member of Parliament (MP) for Kilifi County. consulted with the Clerks-at-the-Table) For the convenience of the House, the Request of Statement No. 4 on the Order Paper will be deferred to a future date.

[(The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma)]

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I wish to request for a Statement regarding suspension and dismissal of Mr Paul Wambua Ndambuki from the Kenya Revenue Authority (KRA) . Hon. Temporary Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request for a Statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Labour regarding suspension and subsequent dismissal of Mr Paul Wamb…

At the time of his dismissal, Mr Wambua was the sole breadwinner for his family and the unjust termination caused immense emotional, psychological and financial suffering to him and his dependents. Hon. Temporary Speaker, it is against this background that I seek a Statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Labour on the following:

Hon. Joshua Kimilu, do you want to add to the Statement request?

Yes. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Before I add, let me first correct you. In Kamba language, if you say Kiambaa, it means a big thing. The name is Kiamba. Hon. Susan is not a big thing. If you say that, it is like an abuse.

I know her to be very big in the Catholic faith, so it was deliberate.

[(Laughter)]

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I want to add to what my colleague has said because I know about Wambua’s family. In fact, it is a family which deserves to be compensated, and the Committee should take it seriously. The other day, three weeks ago, I visited Hon. Suzanne, and Makueni and Kaiti constituencies border each other. We passed through the home of that family when I was travelling to a …

Hon. Kiamba, are you looking at compensation or reinstatement?

Thank you. Mr Paul is over 75 old years now. He has suffered for the last, I do not know how many years. I do not expect him to be re- employed.

Is Hon. Ken Chonga the Chair of the Departmental Committee on Labour? He is the Chair. The experts who took leadership a short while back have started absenting themselves from the House. Who will commit on behalf of the Chair of the Committee? Is that Hon. Dorice Donya? Do you serve in the Departmental Committee on Labour?

Yes. I have served there for the last two years, and I confirm that I will pass it to the Chair, so that we can bring a response in two weeks after recess.

What is the magic about two weeks after recess? Can you give a response the first week after recess?

You have asked a very good question. Maybe we will sit during the first week and then make resolutions in the second week because we cannot have two sittings in a week. It is a mirage to have two in a week.

Fine, within the first two weeks? Hon. Kiamba, two weeks?

I would really appreciate if that is taken seriously. I am not sure how long the man will wait. He is very sickly. He is a diabetes and hypertensive case. He has no responsible children to take care of him. I think any serious action would be appreciated.

Hon. Dorice Donya, deliver the message of the seriousness of this matter to the leadership and membership of the Committee.

Yes, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

Within two weeks, there should be a very comprehensive report to the House for consideration. We know what happens in some of these cases. Some Kenyans have been treated so badly in the civil service. We cannot allow it as a House that makes laws on fair treatment of all Kenyans. Bring a comprehensive report for the House’s consideration within two weeks after the House comes from recess. Questi…

Pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I wish to request for a Statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental

Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Lands. Who will speak on behalf of the Committee in their absence? Hon.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. It is unfortunate that most of our chairpersons are not around. However, I take the responsibility to pass the information and within the first two weeks after recess, a response will be given.

Hon. Wandeto, is it acceptable?

That is acceptable, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

The response will be given two weeks after recess. Let us go to request for Statement No.7 by Hon. Dorice Donya, Member for Kisii County.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request for a Statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Trade, Industry and Co-operatives regarding the plight of retired teachers who founded Gusii Mwalimu Investment Company Limited (GUMICO) . In 1974, these teachers contributed diligently, each offering Ksh20 a month, to establish …

Hon. Dorice Donya, thank you for revealing to the House that you dropped me off at the Mwalimu International Hotel at the break of the New Year when we hosted the President in Gusii. It would be unfortunate if that investment is out of the reach of the people who made it. I saw Hon. Kemei ask how Ksh20 in 1974 would result in such an investment. That was a lot of money back then. Hon. Mukunji.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Since we came to this House, it is only the cabinet secretary who handles matters to do with cooperatives who has never appeared before us. I have questions waiting for him since 2022 to date. Many people in our communities have suffered due to the unscrupulous ways in which some investments were done by very hardworking teachers and farmers. Farmers in my consti…

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I want to add my voice on the issue that is before us. The Minister for Cooperatives has never appeared before this House. Many groups of teachers and farmers, as it has been said before, collected huge amounts of money. Many other groups collected money and bought land. However, they were taken to court by other small bwenyenyes. The bwenyenyes took their money …

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker for giving me this opportunity. I want to appreciate and congratulate my friend, Hon. Dorice. She made us happy yesterday when she said that we give men all that they need. So, on this matter, I am sure she is concerned about teachers because teachers give their all. I support her request for a Statement. For many years, women groups - chamas - have been collectin…

to Ksh100. Some of them have invested in posho mills and others in plots, especially in Kericho County. The posho mills have worked for many years and the proceeds have been translated to other properties. However, the plots of land that they acquired do not have title deeds and some of them have been grabbed because of that. Women in these groups at the moment are elderly and running around is a …

The concerns raised by Hon. Mukunji and Hon. Beatrice Kemei on the fact that the Minister has never appeared before the House have been noted. Where is the Chair of the Departmental Committee on Trade, Industry and Cooperatives? Who is undertaking this on behalf of the Committee? Again, it is Hon. Naomi Waqo. Bear the burden of collective responsibility

I take the undertaking, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I will make sure that as soon as we get back from recess, they will give their response. I am sure the chairs will obey that.

How long after recess?

Our usual two weeks.

[(Laughter)]

Two weeks, it is. Hon. Millie Odhiambo approves. Next is the response by the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security to the Question previously raised by the Hon. Julius Sunkuli.

On a point of order.

What is out of order, Hon. Njeri Maina? What does ‘Itungati’ mean?

Hon. Temporary Speaker, when you come to Wamunyoro, I will explain to you what ‘Itungati’ means. There is nothing out of order. We had requested to have some Statements. We have been faithfully in this House waiting to proceed.

Proceed.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I am requesting for a Statement regarding incidences of human trafficking in Kenya. Pursuant to provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request for a Statement from the Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security regarding the increasing incidences of human trafficking in Kenya. The prevalence of human trafficking i…

unscrupulous recruitment agencies that operate with impunity, facilitating trafficking under the guise of legal labour migration. Unfortunately, such an environment seemingly makes the country a source, transit and destination for human traffickers. This is despite the elaborate counter-human trafficking legal frameworks, notably the United Nations (UN) Protocol to Prevent, Suppress and Punish Tr…

Let us have the Minority Whip.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I also thank Hon. Njeri for bringing this Statement. I often feel proud when I hear statements like this because when I was a young person about her age many years ago, I sounded a warning about trafficking. At that time, I was not a Member of Parliament. Back in 2006, the UN Special Rapporteur on Violence Against Women had marked Kenya only as a transit point fo…

Thank you, Hon. Millie Odhiambo. Hon. Dido Raso, this request is directed to the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security.

Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I wish to thank Hon. Njeri for this request for a Statement. Last week, we engaged the Cabinet Secretary, Interior and National Security, and today, in passing, the Prime Cabinet Secretary

alluded to the issue of human trafficking and drugs, which are fairly related. Unfortunately, the majority of victims are young men and women. In the past month, our news coverage about the Vietnam issue highlighted how young men and women are lured into these situations. This matter requires a comprehensive Government approach and deeper reflection from society. We must ensure that we do not all…

Did you say first week or second week?

First week.

Within the first week?

Yes.

Hon. Njeri Maina is obviously satisfied. So, it shall be the first week after recess. Let us have Hon. Richard Yegon.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order Number 44 (2) (c) , I wish to request for a Statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security regarding the murder of Mr Wesley Kipkemoi Bett in Mau Forest. Hon. Temporary Speaker, on 26th March 2025, Mr Wesley Kipkemoi Bett of Identification Card No.28309542, was rep…

Hon. Dido Raso.

Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. This appears to be a classic case of homicide. That is why, as a Committee, we have been fighting to have the forensic laboratory up and running because if a murder takes place in an inhabited forest, it requires a scientific approach and a thorough investigation. Hon. Temporary Speaker, we will respond to the House during the second week after recess.

Is the second week after recess satisfactory, Hon. Richard Yegon?

Response to be delivered to the House within two weeks after recess.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

Do we have any more requests for Statements that is already approved by the Speaker? None at all.

If not, then the response from the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security on the matters raised by Hon. Julius Sunkuli can now be made.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. The Speaker directed that we give an interim report to this. It is the property of the House and we want to give a response.

The Speaker invokes the powers donated to him by Standing Order 1. In normal cases, this would have been deferred or dropped, but because of the urgency and seriousness of this matter, we will allow Hon. Dido Raso to present the interim report.

Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker for indulging me. The Member of Parliament for Kilgoris Constituency, Hon. Julius Sunkuli, requested for a Statement regarding the land clashes in Angata Barikoi. The Member particularly sought to be informed as follows:

That Statement will be available to Hon. Julius Sunkuli and any Member who would want to go through it. Next Order.

Where is the Mover? He is not in. That Motion appearing under Order No. 9 is stepped down. Hon. Naomi Waqo, are you the Mover of the Motion under Order No.9? Mover of the Motion appearing as Order No.9, do you have a seconder?

Yes.

Unfortunately, you are coming after we have stepped it down for consideration by the House in future. Next Order, which the Whip of the Minority Party is moving.

Yes, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I know some Members will be leaving, but I congratulate those who have stayed for this long. It is very rare. I beg to move the following Motion: THAT, this House adopts the Report of the Departmental Committee on Defence, Intelligence and Foreign Relations on its consideration of the Treaty Establishing the Inter-Governmental Authority on Development (IGAD) , laid on…

connected Africa. The IGAD as we know it today was born from adversity. In the 1980s, devastating droughts, famines and ecological collapses pushed this region to the brink. That crisis gave rise to the Inter-Governmental Authority on Drought and Development (IGADD). However, time showed that we needed more than a drought response. We needed a platform for dialogue, regional integration, and peac…

I give this chance to Hon. Bashir, the Vice-Chairperson, Departmental Committee on Defence, Intelligence and Foreign Relations to second.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I rise to second the Motion on the approval of the Treaty establishing IGAD. The Mover has explicitly explained why we need this Treaty. I am sure Kenya will benefit more than most of the member States. Remember IGAD comprises a number of countries, including Kenya, Djibouti, Ethiopia, Eritrea, Somalia, South Sudan, Sudan and Uganda. When you look at the congreg…

[(Question proposed)]

Hon. Dido Raso, Member for Saku and the Vice-Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Administration National Security.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. When I read this Protocol, I thought there would be no debate about whether we would ratify the Treaty establishing the IGAD because we are part of the greater Horn of Africa. We are on the Indian Ocean rim. We occupy both a strategic and central position in this region, and that is why the IGAD is very important for us, both strategically and geo-strategically. …

On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

What is out of order, Chief Whip of the Minority Party?

Hon. Temporary Speaker, there is some very urgent and sad information that is coming through. I request that we adjourn the House. It is in relation to a Member. I do not want to say it because it is not yet public. I rise to indicate that we have no quorum.

Could you approach the Temporary Speaker? Hon. Millie has raised the issue of quorum. Could the Quorum Bell be rung for 10 minutes?

[(Quorum Bell was rung)]