National Assembly · Afternoon Sitting

Wednesday, 8 November 2023

Session Summary

Members praised the newly vetted list of ambassadorial nominees for its gender balance and diverse professional backgrounds, while urging better pre‑departure training, cultural awareness and performance metrics. They also called for improved diaspora support, including accurate information for Kenyans abroad, a migrant welfare fund, greater inclusion of persons with disabilities, and an expanded diplomatic footprint in regions such as South America. Members praised the President’s nomination of 27 ambassadors and high commissioners, highlighting the inclusion of career diplomats and regional representation. They emphasized the potential for economic diplomacy, such as expanding tea, coffee and health‑sector trade, while cautioning against the misuse of anti‑corruption investigations in appointment decisions. Members praised President William Ruto’s role as Kenya’s chief diplomat and endorsed the appointment of 27 new ambassadors, emphasizing the need to attract investment and educational opportunities abroad. The debate also highlighted concerns about corruption and harassment at Jomo Kenyatta International Airport’s exit terminal, urging reforms to facilitate smoother visitor experiences. Overall, the discussion combined strong support for diplomatic initiatives with calls for improved administrative conduct.

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Hon. Deputy Speaker

I direct that the Quorum Bell be rung for 10 minutes.

[(The Quorum Bell was rung)]

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Hon. Deputy Speaker

We may proceed. First Order.

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Hon. Owen Baya (Kilifi North, UDA)

Hon. Deputy Speaker, I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table.

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Next Order.

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Member for Makueni. Hon. Suzanne Kiamba, proceed.

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Question 486/2023

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Hon. Suzanne Kiamba (Makueni, WDM)

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I wish to ask the following Question to the National Police Service Commission. Could the Commission:

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Hon. Deputy Speaker

Hon. Suzanne Kiamba, you are asking a Question or giving notice of Motion?

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Hon. Suzanne Kiamba (Makueni, WDM)

A Question.

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Then start again if it is a Question and not notice of Motion, for purposes of record.

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Hon. Suzanne Kiamba (Makueni, WDM)

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I wish to ask the following Question to the National Police Service Commission. Could the Chairperson of the Commission:

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Hon. Deputy Speaker

Thank you, Hon. Suzzane Kiamba. Next Order. Hon. Dekow Mohamed, did you have a Question or a Statement?

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Hon. Dekow Mohamed (Garissa Township, UDA)

A Statement.

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Proceed.

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Hon. Dekow Mohamed (Garissa Township, UDA)

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker

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Hon. Dekow Mohamed (Garissa Township, UDA)

Hon. Deputy Speaker. Pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I wish to request for a Statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security regarding the unexplained abduction and disappearances of several persons within Garissa Township Constituency. Hon. Deputy Speaker, on 8th October 2023, Mr Adow Mohammed Hassan of ID No.25572443…

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Hon. Dekow Mohamed (Garissa Township, UDA)

Families of these three missing persons are facing a heart wrenching uncertainty about the whereabouts of their loved ones. In all the stated cases, the abductors of the victims are believed to be police officers apparently cracking down on terror suspects. While we truly support the efforts by the Government, police officers, and the security agencies to fight terrorism, the recent developments r…

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Hon. Deputy Speaker

I think there was also a Statement by Hon. Member for Soy Constituency. Hon. David Kiplagat.

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Hon. David Kiplagat (Soy, UDA)

Hon. Deputy Speaker, pursuant to Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request for a Statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Affairs regarding the unfortunate killing of Ms Rachael Nyambura Munyaka, commonly known as Mama Leah, in Matunda Town, Soy Constituency. Hon. Deputy Speaker, on 4th November 2023 at around 8.00 p.m., Mama Leah was headed …

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The Standing Orders provide for the timeline for the relevant Committee to obtain these answers from the National Police Service or the relevant institution. Are there any more requests for Statements?

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Hon. Ali Raso (Saku, UDA)

On a point of order, Hon. Deputy Speaker.

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Hon. Deputy Speaker

Hold on a moment I confirm if there is another request for a Statement. Okay, you may proceed Hon. Raso with your point of order.

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Hon. Ali Raso (Saku, UDA)

Thank you very much, Hon. Deputy Speaker. There are two Statements sought by our colleagues in the House this morning. One, there is abduction of citizens. In the last Government, many Kenyans were abducted from their homes, cars, and offices and to date, many of them are still missing and the families are suffering. I believe under the Government of President William Ruto, the law must take its c…

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Okay, we can proceed to the next Order.

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Hon. Silvanus Osoro (South Mugirango, UDA)

Hon. Deputy Speaker, I beg to move the following Procedural Motion: THAT, this House resolves to exempt the business appearing as Order Nos.10, 11 and 12 in today’s Order Paper from the provisions of Standing Order 40 (3) being a Wednesday Morning, a day allocated for business not sponsored by the Majority or Minority Party or business sponsored by a Committee. You will notice that there are Orde…

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Hon. Deputy Speaker

Did you move the Procedural Motion as indicated in the Order Paper?

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Hon. Silvanus Osoro (South Mugirango, UDA)

Yes, I did. Thank you.

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Hon. Deputy Speaker

Proceed, Hon. Martha

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Hon. Martha Wangari (Gilgil, UDA)

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. This is for good order and the convenience of the House. Therefore, I second.

[(Question proposed)]

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Hon. Members

Put the Question.

[(Question put and agreed to)]

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Next order.

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Hon. Silvanus Osoro (South Mugirango, UDA)

Hon. Deputy Speaker, I beg to move the following Procedural Motion: THAT, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 120, this House resolves to reduce the publication period of the following Bills from 14 days to eight days —

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Hon. Rahim Dawood (North Imenti, Independent)

Hon. Deputy Speaker, I second.

[(Question put and agreed to)]

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Hon. Deputy Speaker

Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Defence and Foreign Relations, Hon. Koech.

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Hon. Nelson Koech (Belgut, UDA)

Thank you.

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Hon. Deputy Speaker

I could not see you actually.

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Hon. Nelson Koech (Belgut, UDA)

I was here. I took your seat today. Hon. Deputy Speaker, I beg to move the following Motion: THAT, taking into consideration the findings of the Departmental Committee on Defence, Intelligence and Foreign Relations in its Report on the Vetting of the Nominees for Appointment as High Commissioners, Permanent Representatives and Ambassadors, laid on the Table of the House on Tuesday, November 7, 202…

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)

Hon. Rahim.

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Hon. Rahim Dawood (North Imenti, Independent)

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move: THAT, the Cancer Prevention and Control (Amendment) (No.2) Bill, (National Assembly Bill No.45 of 2022) , be now read a Second Time. This Bill regards cancer prevention. Most of what is contained in the Bill was covered by the Digital Health Bill.

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Hon. Rahim Dawood (North Imenti, Independent)

This Bill seeks to amend Section 2 of the Cancer Prevention and Control Act No.15 of

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)

You will get two more minutes.

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Hon. Rahim Dawood (North Imenti, Independent)

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for the additional time. The National Cancer Institute of Kenya was not established to provide information only. I am suggesting that it should do more than this in this Bill. Cancer is the third leading cause of death in Kenya after infectious and cardiovascular diseases. From 2012, we had 28,500 deaths from 37,000 cases. Up to 2018, we had 32,987 deaths from 4…

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)

Thank you. Hon. Marianne Kitany.

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Hon. Marianne Kitany (Aldai, UDA)

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I stand to second the amendments to the Cancer Prevention and Control Act, especially on the addition of e-health and telemedicine. This is because they will help many people access medicine. A doctor trains for seven years and then you add the experience that is required to start treating patients. Many of the health issues that we have today require a doctor w…

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Hon. Marianne Kitany (Aldai, UDA)

man in my village in Aldai Constituency does not need to travel to Nairobi, India or look for oncologists in the United States of America (USA) or any other part of the world. At the comfort of people’s homes, they will access telemedicine and e-health. This Bill has come at the right time, when we are amending our Social Health Insurance Fund. Once it is in place, we know that those particular pe…

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)

Member for Mosop, Hon. Abraham Kirwa.

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Hon. Abraham Kirwa (Mosop, UDA)

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for allowing me to support the Bill, which touches on e-health and telemedicine. I am a big supporter of improving our healthcare. Kenya should have long ago adopted telemedicine and e-health, which most advanced countries have adopted. That is the way to go. First, e-health and telemedicine reduce cases of mis-diagnosis because we will be able to make use of qu…

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)

Hon. Naomi Waqo, do you want to speak on this? Hon. Kirima.

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Hon. Moses Kirima (Central Imenti, UDA)

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for allowing me to contribute to this important Bill about cancer prevention. Cancer is a real pandemic in Kenya, which was not foreseen in the 1960s. It has become prevalent due to our lifestyles, imports from European countries and farming activities. This is a timely Bill. Most Kenyan families have been affected by the cancer scourge. We have all been affecte…

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Hon. Moses Kirima (Central Imenti, UDA)

in advance and it is found that you are in the first stage, cancer is treatable. You can recover from it before it goes to the second, third and fourth stages. Hon. Temporary Speaker, this disease is claiming the economy of the country in all ways.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)

Hon. Kirima, I hate to interrupt you, but the time is 1.00 p.m. You will have the balance of your time, when the Bill is placed next in the Order Paper for debate.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)

Hon. Members, the time being 1.00