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Therefore, in keeping with this practice, I hereby refer the Message from His Excellency the President, together with the curriculum vitae and other testimonials of the nominee, to the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning, and direct—

On a point of order, Hon. Speaker.

Yes, Hon. Bowen. What is your point of order?

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I want to make a comment in relation to your Communication. As a House, we need to relook into our laws. We have seen cases where some boards of management of certain organisations do not require vetting by Parliament, while others do. I chair the Departmental Committee on Blue Economy, Water and Irrigation. Firstly, our laws require us to vet the nominee chairperson and …

Therefore, we as a Parliament, need to align our laws and regulations to create standardised legislation on appointment of CEOs, chairs of state corporations and their boards. That is my observation, Hon. Speaker.

I get your point. The correct avenue to take up what you are saying is the Kenya Law Reform Commission (KLRC) . Your Committee can map out parastatals under you that require parliamentary approval and those that do not, and harmonise the law accordingly. The Leader of the Majority Party who is seated here also has a duty to reach out to all parastatals. I agree with you that there is absolutely n…

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Leader of the Majority Party.

Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table:

Thank you, Leader of the Majority Party. Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Environment, Forestry and Mining.

Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table: Reports of the Departmental Committee on Environment, Forestry and Mining on its consideration of:

Thank you. Chairperson of the Committee on Delegated Legislation.

Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Paper on the Table:

Next Order by the Chairperson of the Committee on Delegated Legislation..

Hon. Speaker, I beg to give notice of the following Motion: THAT, this House adopts the Report of the Committee on Delegated Legislation on its consideration of the Public Finance Management Regulations, 2024, laid on the Table of the House on Thursday, 24th July 2025, and pursuant to the provisions of section 24 (4) of the Public Finance Management Act, Cap 412A, this House approves the Publi…

[(Public Officers Medical Fund)]

Finance Management (Public Officers Medical Fund) Regulations published as Legal Notice No. 195 of 2024. Thank you, Hon. Speaker.

Hon. Members, before we go to Order No.7, let us first dispose of Orders No. 8, 9 and 10, which are just for questions to be put. Clerk-at-the-Table, go ahead.

Order, Hon. Members. All the students in the Gallery, freeze where you are.

[(Question put and agreed to)]

[(The Bill was read a Second Time and Committed to a Committee of the whole House)]

Hon. Kandie, take your seat.

[(Question put and negatived)]

Members on their feet, take your seats.

[(Question put and negatived)]

Hon. Members, consequent upon your votes on Order No.10, Order No.11 collapses. Therefore, when we reach Order No.11, we will skip it and go to Order No.12. Let us go back to Order No. 7. Sorry. Please call out Order No.12. It is also for putting the question.

Let us go back to Order No.7. Hon. Shakeel Shabbir, proceed.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Pursuant to Standing Order 44 (2) (e) , I wish to make a Personal Statement with regard to the remarks I made at Kindu Secondary School. On Friday, 11th July 2025, during a prayer meeting event at Kindu Secondary School in Kisumu East Constituency, I made certain remarks that have since drawn public attention and concern, particularly from members of the teaching fraternit…

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Order, Hon. Members. Let us listen to Hon. Shakeel Shabbir. Go on.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. As a Member of Parliament, I am a firm believer in the transformative power of education, and that situation deeply troubles me. It is sad to note that whereas the Government is committed to supporting schools, there are teachers who work at cross purposes. For instance, during the function and classroom time, more than 10 Teachers Service Commission (TSC) teachers were ab…

invested heavily in school infrastructure, and the teachers are reliably paid their monthly salaries on time. My intention in making the remarks was to call out the small number of individuals whose continued negligence is sabotaging our children's future and tarnishing the good name of the teaching profession. In conclusion, while regretting the trajectory that the remarks took, I call upon the…

Thank you. Since it is a Personal Statement, nobody is allowed to comment. Leader of the Majority Party, proceed.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (a) , I rise to give the following Statement on behalf of the House Business Committee, which met on Tuesday, 22nd July 2025, to prioritise business for consideration during the week. Allow me to first officially welcome Members back from the short recess. I hope we are all invigorated and ready to perform our roles in w…

Thank you, Leader of the Majority Party.

On a point of order, Hon. Speaker.

Yes, Hon. Oundo, what is your point of order?

I wanted to direct it to the Leader of the Majority Party. Many questions and statements are directed to the Cabinet Secretary for the National Treasury and Economic Planning, some dating back to February this year. I would like to know when he intends to prioritise or invite the Cabinet Secretary to respond to those and other emerging issues.

Leader of the Majority Party.

The Cabinet Secretary for the National Treasury and Economic Planning and his Education counterpart are scheduled to appear next, after the Cabinet Secretary for Interior and National Administration.

Okay. Has your concern been addressed? Hon. Adan Keynan?

[(Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo spoke off the record)]

Hon. Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request for a statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Education on the recruitment process for the position of Deputy Principal, Academic and Student Affairs at Turkana University College. On 28th February 2023, the Public Service Commission advertised the position of Deputy Principal, Academ…

Thank you, Hon. Akujah. Is the Chairman, Departmental Committee on Education in the House? Hon. Taitumu, are you standing in for your Chairman? Bring a response in two weeks. Give him the microphone to go on record.

[(Hon. Julius M’anaiba spoke off the record)]

In two weeks' time, we will bring the report.

[(Hon. Protus Akujah spoke off the record)]

Thank you. Hon. Akujah, what is it?

Thank you, Hon. Chair…

Which Chair?

Hon. Speaker. Sorry. The Departmental Committee on Education has a question that was asked last year and has still not been

responded to. Although two weeks were promised, I am not sure whether this will be honoured. There is laxity in this Committee. I am not sure whether that response will be brought.

Hon. Taitumu, in two weeks, you will bring both the response to this request and the pending one.

Hon. Speaker, questions from two years ago may have lapsed, but we can still provide an answer.

Hon. Akujah, when did you request your earlier Statement?

He is saying one year ago.

Is that so, Hon. Akujah?

Hon. Speaker, I requested for a statement in December last year.

Hiyo ilikufa.

It is because they take a lot of time to respond to this and say two weeks and yet it takes forever.

You are not barred from pursuing it. You can go to the Table Office and resurrect your statement.

Okay, thank you.

Hon. Owen Baya?

Thank you, Hon. Speaker…

Are you purporting to present the Statement?

On behalf of Hon. Musa Sirma.

Where is the written authority?

He is stuck in traffic and gave instructions by phone.

You cannot be instructed on phone. The Member who has requested for a statement must write to the Speaker, and the Speaker must approve that you are a legitimate proxy. Now you are an impostor.

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But, Hon. Speaker, due to the urgency…

I will not allow it. There is no exception to the rule.

Thank you.

If Hon. Musa Sirima arrives before the statement’s time ends, he will be allowed. Hon. Machua Waithaka? Yes, go ahead.

[(Hon. John Waithaka spoke off the record)]

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I wish to request for a statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Transport and Infrastructure regarding the impact of the recent rise in global oil prices on road construction projects across the country. Every financial year, the National Assembly appropriates funds towards the development, …

Thank you, Hon. Machua. The Chair of the Departmental Committee on Transport and Infrastructure.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I will respond in two weeks.

Thank you. Hon. Zamzam Mohammed, Member for Mombasa County.

Hon. Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request for a statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Transport and Infrastructure regarding the safety of ferries that are operated by the Kenya Ferry Services (KFS) . Ferry services are a key lifeline for coastal residents as their significance goes beyond mere transportation. They serve as…

operations at the Likoni and Mtongwe channels continues to pose a serious risk to the lives of Kenyans. It is against this background that I request for a statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Transport and Infrastructure on the following:

Thank you, Mama Zamzam. The Chair of the Departmental Committee on Transport and Infrastructure, Hon. GK.

Hon. Speaker, I will avail a response in two weeks.

You will bring a response in two weeks. That is alright. Hon. Keynan, I had dropped your request for a statement. However, now that you are here, I can exercise the discretion to resuscitate it. Go ahead.

Thank you very much, Hon Speaker. The Order Paper was a bit misleading. It talked of Tuesday. Hon Speaker, I wish to request for a statement …

An apology is desirable. When I called you out, you were not here.

Thank you, Hon Speaker. I would like to request for a statement regarding …

An apology is desirable.

Thank you, Hon Speaker. I apologise for coming late.

Good.

Hon Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request for a statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Agriculture and Livestock regarding the protection, rehabilitation and development of herding grounds and migratory routes in the pastoralist regions of northern Kenya. Pastoralism is not merely a cultural heritage, but a critical economic …

Those routes allow for seasonal movement of herds in search of pasture and water and play a crucial role in promoting sustainable rangeland management by enabling rational grazing, preventing overgrazing and reducing degradation of pasture lands. The routes also facilitate structured access to pasture during dry seasons, thereby reducing livestock mortality. It is against this background that I r…

Thank you. Let us have the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Agriculture. Any Member of the Committee? Hon. Ferdinand Wanyonyi.

Hon. Speaker, I promise that we will respond to this in the next two weeks.

Two weeks is okay. Is Hon. Owen Baya in the House? No. Is Hon. Musa Sirma in? No. Then let us go to the Requests for Statements. The first on this is Hon. Richard Yegon. Why do you look surprised? Are you not ready? Oh! It is a Response and not a Request for a Statement. In that case, let us have the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security. I am aware that…

Yes, I am, Hon. Speaker.

Go ahead.

Hon. Speaker, I have a Statement regarding the murder of Mr Wesley Kipkemoi Bett in Mau Forest.

The Member of Parliament for Bomet East Constituency, Hon. Richard Yegon, requested for a statement regarding the death of Mr Wesley Kipkemoi Bett in Mau Forest along the Bomet-Nakuru Road on 30th March 2025. The Member requested to be informed of the following:

On the progress of the investigations into the circumstances surrounding Mr Wesley Kipkemoi’s disappearance and abandonment of his vehicle in Mau Forest, and whether forensic analysis was conducted on the scenes; following the incident, the crime scene was processed and documented by the Crime Scene Investigation Team. Investigations immediately commenced via an Inquiry File No.10/2025. Statements…

Hon. Yegon, are you satisfied with the response?

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Thank you for the response from the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Affairs. I fail to understand the Committee’s findings because they have not even mentioned the names of the two boda boda guys who were alleged to have rescued the lady. It was also alleged that Ksh4,700 was stolen from the lady who was allegedly accompanying the deceased. Upon sear…

Hon. Kapondi, do you have any response to that?

Hon. Speaker, it is very clear to our colleague that the case is still active. Any information that he may have can still be channelled to the Office of the Directorate of Criminal Investigations (DCI) at Kiptagich Police Station because the file is still open. The case has not been concluded. The honourable colleague should just be patient. We will have a conclusive answer later.

Thank you. Hon. Members, before we go to the next response, I would like to acknowledge students from Muhoroni Furaha Academy Primary School from Kisumu County, and Olpusimoru Secondary School from Narok North Constituency in Narok County, who are seated in the Speaker's Gallery. In the Public Gallery, we have students from AIC Academy from Baringo North Constituency in Baringo County, Ilengi Mix…

[(Hon. Eve Obara spoke off the record)]

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. This is a response to a request for a statement by Hon. Julius Taitumu on the promotion of teachers, a report by the Teachers Service Commission (TSC) detailing the number of teachers per county, their names, the TSC numbers of teachers promoted per county, the promotional cadres for each teacher and the school where each teacher is stationed. The Commission competitively…

leadership, experience, age and contribution to academic excellence. This vigorous evaluation process is designed to prioritise meritocracy, ensuring fairness and consistency, while minimising potential for favouritism and biasness. Hon. Deputy Speaker, the fourth one is publication of vacancies and results. Vacancy announcements are publicly advertised through the print media and the TSC website…

Yes, Hon. Sunkuli. What do you want to say? It is okay? Hon. Sunkuli can proceed because he got my attention first. We will come to you.

Hon. Deputy Speaker, my attention is really on those promotions from Grade C2 to C3 to C4, and I am wondering because this is affecting us especially in Trans-Mara. When you look at it, there are no head teachers who can come from Trans-Mara because the promotions are not happening. So, we are importing teachers from outside to come and head our schools because of those promotions that are lacking…

Member for Igembe North. He has enriched your question.

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. What the Member has given us is just a scholarly and theoretical argument because if you look at the folder behind, there are no names of the teachers who have been promoted in various cadres. However, I want to believe you since in the third response, you have said that in the future, you will adhere to the principles that are set during the interviews. I may indu…

Do you want to say something, Mwalimu?

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. One thing which is clear is that the person who asked for this response is also from the Departmental Committee on Education, and he knows how far this matter has gone. The TSC appeared before our Committee to give the details of the teachers such as the names, places and grades. Their response addressed the request and the Committee was satisfied with the answers f…

Hon. Deputy Speaker, on a point of order.

Hon. Milemba, what is your point of order?

Hon. Deputy Speaker, I am so disappointed with my colleague Mwalimu Orero, and the seeker of the request for statement. Promotion was a very thorough issue. Even the trade unions asked for the list of those who were promoted. When the Member requested for a statement, I was in this House and I was very happy and proud that, finally, the lists would be available. This is because Parliament is the p…

I will give you one last chance to respond.

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I think my colleague Hon. Omboko Milemba, who is also a long-serving educationist and still the Chair of the Kenya Union of Post-Primary Education Teachers (KUPPET) in this country, knows very well that he has taken me out of context. I never said that we start separately. Not really. I said that, as the Departmental Committee on Education, we sent TSC to bring the …

To conclude this matter, you should bring the list. We can move to the next request for statement. The request was made by Hon. Machua Waithaka of Kiambu. The Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Sports and Culture told me that there is someone from the Committee to present the response on his behalf. You may proceed.

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I want to respond on behalf of the Chairman, Hon. Dan Wanyama.

Hon. Mule, allow me to recognise four schools. When you finish your response, you can welcome the schools before they leave. You may realise that today there is a big group and some are leaving before we recognise them. I recognise the following schools, seated in the Public Gallery: Itibo Boys Primary School from Kitutu Chache in Kisii County, Sagero Baraton School from Chesumei Constituency in N…

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. First and foremost, I welcome the young generation to this august House. I encourage the young people to take their education seriously. I know in the Public Gallery is one of the schools which we support, St. Martin’s Matuu Secondary School from Matungulu Constituency. On behalf of all the Members of the august House, we welcome you to this House to follow the proc…

I want to give the response as received from the Ministry of Sports regarding the letter which was done to the Committee by one Mr Michael Karanga, a top amateur golfer, dated 11th June 2025. Mr Michael Karanga is a 30-year-old Kenyan amateur golfer. He has distinguished himself on the international stage through consistent performance and dedication. He is ranked 64th in the World Amateur Golf Ra…

to the consideration. In the Financial Year 2023-2025, the Ministry sponsored 43 national teams to represent Kenya in international events. Additionally, 11 events were hosted in the country. Those sportsmen, who include male and female, and people living with disabilities, are drawn from a diverse section of the sporting disciplines within the country. The criteria used for consideration of fund…

Hon. Member for Kiambu.

Thank you Hon. Deputy Speaker. I have heard the response from the Hon. Member representing the Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Sports and Culture. According to Michael Karanga, all the sponsorship or benefits that he has got have been from well-wishers and that the Government has not helped him in any way. If the Government claims to be sponsoring him in any way, can we get some voucher…

There seems to be a disconnect between the response given by the Cabinet Secretary, Ministry of Youth Affairs, Creative Economy and Sports and what the

Member of Parliament who is representing the athlete has said. It is better this goes back to the Committee so that the sportsman can have an audience with the Committee in the presence of somebody from the Ministry of Youth Affairs, Creative Economy and Sports so that this can be solved. This issue was in the Order Paper a few days ago, and the debate was on whether we should have a policy. The …

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I am not pre-empting debate on the Motion that you have talked about, and which is due for debate here on supporting of talents. The issue that the Hon. Member has brought up and other issues involving our amateur sportspersons need to be considered. We have the Talanta Academy, but we need to know if their policy considers amateur talents that we have and the speci…

The representative of the Chairperson, Hon. Mule, make sure that he actions that so that you convene a committee meeting to look at it globally. Do you have anything else to comment on or something to assure us?

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. As a Committee, we are glad we are guided. I invite the Hon. Member representing the sportsman to our next meeting. I assure you that we, as a Committee, are aware of those disparities. We are working with the Ministry, the different State Departments and federations to ensure that this country has a clear and harmonised way of remunerating all our sportspersons, no…

Thank you, Hon. Members. We can now go to the statement as requested by Hon. Amina Mnyazi, Member for Malindi. Is she here? It was supposed to be responded to by the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Transport and Infrastructure. However, if the owner of the statement is not here, then we shall pass. With the permission of Hon. Speaker, Hon. Sirma’s Statement will be responded to.

[(Hon. Musa Sirma spoke off the record)]

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I wish to apologise for coming late. I was not here when I was called.

You had requested for a statement.

I am requesting for a statement.

Okay.

Hon. Deputy Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request for a statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Trade, Industry and Co-operatives regarding the participation of Kenyan exhibitors in Expo 2025 in Osaka, Japan. The Osaka Expo 2025 is a collaborated event between the Japanese National Government, various countries including Kenya…

[[The Deputy Speaker (Hon. Gladys Boss) left the Chair] [The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Omboko Milemba) took the Chair]]

Is the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Trade, Industry and Co-operatives in the House? In his absence then, Leader of the Majority Party will inform him.

I will do that, Hon. Temporary Speaker. He will respond in about 10 days’ time.

Thank you. Before the next Order, let me acknowledge the following schools in the Speaker's Gallery and the Public Gallery: Muthetheni Girls’ High School from Mwala Constituency, Machakos County; Emarangishu Primary from Rongai Constituency, Nakuru County; Kathiani Girls’ School from Kathiani Constituency, Machakos County and Nyahururu Highway School from Ndaragwa Constituency, Nyandarua County. …

The Member who is in charge of this particular Motion has recused himself. He is bereaved. Therefore, we can have it in the Order Paper in future. Let us move to the next Order.

Is the Chairperson of the Constitution Implementation Oversight Committee in the House? Leader of the Majority Party. He is here. Proceed, Hon. Karemba.

[(Hon. Muchangi Karemba stood up in his place)]

Hon. Temporary Speaker and esteemed Members of Parliament, pursuant to Standing Order 199, I rise to table the second Report of the Constitutional Implementation Oversight Committee on the status of the implementation of the Constitution by the three critical institutions; namely, the Office of the Controller of Budget (OCOB) , the Commission on Revenue Allocation (CRA) , and the Office of the Aud…

Order, Hon. Member. You need to begin afresh by moving the Motion. You can easily read what has been provided on the paper that you have.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move the following Motion: THAT, this House adopts the Second Report of the Constitutional Implementation Oversight Committee, laid on the Table of the House on Tuesday, 24th June 2025, on the Status of Implementation of the Constitution by-

Hon. Mulanya.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for giving me this opportunity to second the Motion. As Members of the Constitutional Implementation Oversight Committee, we listened to submissions by the three commissions. One of the matters that came out very clearly is the existence of serious legislative limitations that hinder the performance of those particular commissions. The Committee has recommended …

laws to give those commissions real authority that will enable them to effectively perform their functions. For instance, we noted a serious concern that was raised by the Office of the Controller of Budget. They indicated that they face challenges in overseeing county governments expenditure. This is an issue we have consistently raised, particularly regarding pending bills. The county governmen…

You second. Give him the microphone to second properly.

I second, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

[(Question proposed)]

Who takes the first bite? Hon. James Nyikal.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for giving me this opportunity. I rise to support this Report. I just want to make a general comment. I have observed this on many occasions. Extremely important reports are brought to this House and many times, we debate them while we are so few that one wonders whether we are doing them any justice. That is also the case today. I recall another occasion when w…

Examples have been cited, particularly regarding county governments, illustrating the impact of lacking enforcement mechanisms. The biggest culprits have been found to be the county governments. They engage in wasteful expenditures, as has been indicated in the Report. The Auditor-General may identify and report such waste, but that is as far as it goes. It is expected that Parliament will act on …

Hon. Members, let me acknowledge the presence of some visitors before we get to the next speaker. In the Speaker's Gallery, we have students of Sekenani Primary School from Narok West Constituency, Narok County. We also have students of Nturiri Primary School from Mara Constituency, Tharaka-Nithi County. We equally have students of Olkiriane Secondary School from Narok South Constituency, Narok C…

[(Hon. Jematiah Sergon gestured in the negative)]

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker and the Hon. Members who have added your voices to this debate. The spirit of the 2010 Constitution is to ensure good governance and prudent utilisation of public resources in this country. Going by this Report, the House needs to get down and help this country to ensure proper utilisation of the resources Kenyans pay in form of taxes. That is by supporting our i…

Very well. The putting of the question shall be deferred to the next sitting.

[(Putting of the question deferred)]

Next Order.

Chairperson of Decentralised Funds Accounts Committee. I saw him in the House. Very well. Hon. Members, I am properly and reliably informed that the Report on the same is not ready and it is not with the Chair. Therefore, the same shall be deferred to the next sitting.

[(Hon. Gideon Mulyungi consulted the Clerks-at-the-Table)]